If you want a story - there's a much bigger and more relevant one than this about the club that one could report on if they did a little digging.
Ok is it a good or bad story for the club?
Good or bad probably depends on your point of view.
By golly, I never knew I was a deviant until now. Must see.
If you want a story - there's a much bigger and more relevant one than this about the club that one could report on if they did a little digging.
Ok is it a good or bad story for the club?
Good or bad probably depends on your point of view.
By golly, I never knew I was a deviant until now. Must see.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
The Phoenix are a private entity that have no obligation to report crowd figures.
They can just stop reporting crowd figures publicly completely and this issue goes away entirely. Is that what you want AP?
The discrepancy has been for longer than just this year though. I wasn't totally convinced with Dome's explanation and saw one set of figures where there were a couple of hundred difference and thought - could be, then another of about 1000 difference and thought - no way.
If this is widespread and AFA know about it, then not really a problem, if its not and AFA suspect skulduggery it won't help the Nix case in their fight for survival.
I'd think that everyone does it and wants give the impression to everyone but the tax man that they have more people watching than actually are.
It's a complete non-story.
The discrepancy has been for longer than just this year though. I wasn't totally convinced with Dome's explanation and saw one set of figures where there were a couple of hundred difference and thought - could be, then another of about 1000 difference and thought - no way.
If this is widespread and AFA know about it, then not really a problem, if its not and AFA suspect skulduggery it won't help the Nix case in their fight for survival.
I'd think that everyone does it and wants give the impression to everyone but the tax man that they have more people watching than actually are.
It's a complete non-story.
The discrepancy has been for longer than just this year though. I wasn't totally convinced with Dome's explanation and saw one set of figures where there were a couple of hundred difference and thought - could be, then another of about 1000 difference and thought - no way.
If this is widespread and AFA know about it, then not really a problem, if its not and AFA suspect skulduggery it won't help the Nix case in their fight for survival.
I'd think that everyone does it and wants give the impression to everyone but the tax man that they have more people watching than actually are.
It's a complete non-story.
The figure that they gave in the article was a difference of 941 last season per game, this season it's around 490.
The article states that last year it was 13.8%, this season its 7.2%, the article states that the Australian A-League teams are among the worst offenders, and also that the Warriors are at 28%.
The number is probably inflated because of the sponsors. Any sponsors (and the A-League) are going to do due diligence anyway, and the stadium figures are publicly available.
It's completely a non story.
I'm intrigued as to what this real story is though. I'm guessing Gui went to Brazil to try and convince his family to return.
The discrepancy has been for longer than just this year though. I wasn't totally convinced with Dome's explanation and saw one set of figures where there were a couple of hundred difference and thought - could be, then another of about 1000 difference and thought - no way.
If this is widespread and AFA know about it, then not really a problem, if its not and AFA suspect skulduggery it won't help the Nix case in their fight for survival.
I'd think that everyone does it and wants give the impression to everyone but the tax man that they have more people watching than actually are.
It's a complete non-story.
The figure that they gave in the article was a difference of 941 last season, this season it's around 490.
The article states that last year it was 13.8%, this season its 7.2%, the article states that the Australian A-League teams are among the worst offenders, and also that the Warriors are at 28%.
The number is probably inflated because of the sponsors. Any sponsors (and the A-League) are going to do due diligence anyway, and the stadium figures are publicly available.
It's completely a non story.
I'm intrigued as to what this real story is though. I'm guessing Gui went to Brazil to try and convince his family to return.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
]If crowd attenance figures are used to substantiate a sponsorship amount, or assistance in a better media deal or used to support a proposal to stay in the A League and the numbers are delibrately fudged (actual word) to support any of those - it would be fraudulent. Clear?
]If crowd attenance figures are used to substantiate a sponsorship amount, or assistance in a better media deal or used to support a proposal to stay in the A League and the numbers are delibrately fudged (actual word) to support any of those - it would be fraudulent. Clear?
I'm intrigued as to what this real story is though. I'm guessing Gui went to Brazil to try and convince his family to return.
Nixie and Gui sex tape which is why he needed to go get his family to come back?
I'm intrigued as to what this real story is though. I'm guessing Gui went to Brazil to try and convince his family to return.
Nixie and Gui sex tape which is why he needed to go get his family to come back?
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
I'm intrigued as to what this real story is though. I'm guessing Gui went to Brazil to try and convince his family to return.
Nixie and Gui sex tape which is why he needed to go get his family to come back?
and Ernie
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
I'm intrigued as to what this real story is though. I'm guessing Gui went to Brazil to try and convince his family to return.
Nixie and Gui sex tape which is why he needed to go get his family to come back?
and Ernie
All of a sudden the off field changes this season are piecing together.
Looks like Sydney have the same 'Crowd' issues as us....
Sydney FC coach Graham Arnold pleads with fans to attend games
Not even a winning team record with 14 wins 5 Draws 0 Losses is good enough!
Masters Grade aint no run in the park on a Saturday...
Everyone keeps on saying, assemble a team that performs and wins and fan numbers will increase. This team has yet to really carve anyone up and frankly, I would be surprised now if they did. Despite lots of hope and seeing dreams get crushed. Saturday night said it all.
About 5 weeks before they are back at the ROF so hopefully they can improve things before then.
About 5 weeks before they are back at the ROF so hopefully they can improve things before then.
Another long break before they play at ROF.
Super egg ball and the NRL will be in full swing and the average sports fan will have forgotten about the Nix by than.
At a time where we really need to get in there and support the team and they are not here. Still debating whether or not to miss my first Nix A League game up in North harbour. All that driving for another effort like that??
About the crowds, my feeling is that there has never been a season where the weather has been as consistently terrible pretty much every single RoF game-day.
About the crowds, my feeling is that there has never been a season where the weather has been as consistently terrible pretty much every single RoF game-day.
We might get away with that as an excuse but away in NP, Hamilton and Auckland the weather was nice.
Purely anecdotal but I feel like some of our best crowds last year were Friday nights.
Although I can drink on Friday night games so that may have affected my vision and I could be completely wrong.
I did an analysis on crowds at some point and think Friday games were our worst crowds :)
I don't think the shift to Saturday nights has helped.
We've always (usually?) had bad seasons but our crowds (in Wellington) aren't usually this low. Over the last 9 season we've tired to build community club to try get the family crowd in on Sunday afternoon. Which worked reasonably well because there isn't a lot of competition with other events in that time slot. But with all the Saturday crowd it certainly exposes you to a different market. And with that time slot you are competing with a lot of other things on.
I did an analysis on crowds at some point and think Friday games were our worst crowds :)
My alternative facts are telling me that Friday nights get the highest crowds ever and are always sunny.
Fake news???
We've always (usually?) had bad seasons but our crowds (in Wellington) aren't usually this low. Over the last 9 season we've tired to build community club to try get the family crowd in on Sunday afternoon. Which worked reasonably well because there isn't a lot of competition with other events in that time slot. But with all the Saturday crowd it certainly exposes you to a different market. And with that time slot you are competing with a lot of other things on.
It's a shame the weather has been so bad at a number of games this season, makes it hard to definitively tell if the move to more Saturday games has had an effect.
Our best crowds were Sunday afternoon iirc, so it likely does hurt having most games move to Saturday. Although selfishly, I'm not complaining.
I think we can all agree that any time is better than Sunday night
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
We've always (usually?) had bad seasons but our crowds (in Wellington) aren't usually this low. Over the last 9 season we've tired to build community club to try get the family crowd in on Sunday afternoon. Which worked reasonably well because there isn't a lot of competition with other events in that time slot. But with all the Saturday crowd it certainly exposes you to a different market. And with that time slot you are competing with a lot of other things on.
Continued bad seasons works like compounding interest in a savings account...only the wrong way round!
Was never much of a Sunday 5pm fan, but in retrospect that was probably our best time for crowds. I even remember quite a lot of good weather back in those good old days!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
About the crowds, my feeling is that there has never been a season where the weather has been as consistently terrible pretty much every single RoF game-day.
We might get away with that as an excuse but away in NP, Hamilton and Auckland the weather was nice.
Hamilton was mainly rubbish until the weenix match had finished.
I think we can all agree that any time is better than Sunday night
Sunday nights are brutal for us useless Rapa fans with work on Monday. Though no more so than those Tuesdays, the things we do for our club :)
