Crowds - The thread of Australian whining

...and a football ground.  How have we missed this? 

It seems that there is always an excuse when we get a small croud. Something else is always on which is cheaper and that's why we get a small croud. The problem is that there is never going to be the perfect weekend. You never get a weekend where there is no rugby, league, cricket, club sport or festivals. Form is always used as another reason for low crouds but did we really see a rise mid season when we were in good form?

It was simply a bad croud. Obviously the media are going to take a bad croud and do what they do with it. Media sensationalism doesn't make the underlying issue somehow irrelevant though. I feel that we should be getting 15k to a knock out game like that regardless of what other teams in the league are getting.

Snap!

I really can't see a negative with this.

Other  things: Marine Centre, a specialised event centre for Bon fudgeing Jovi, Humoungously tall apartment blocks (Japanese earthquake proofed design) - may or may not be owned by Terry, BIG shopping centres (looks at Mrs Smeltz), food, K-Town becomes even more desirable and with all the high rise apartments there is less wind and rain.

Last weekend we got 13k.  The tickets were cheaper, the time wasn't an obstacle, the Hurricanes were not playing, the Kiwis were not playing, the Phoenix owned the promotion. 

It's not 'an excuse' when you can clearly see the factors that have changed between last weekend and this weekend.

Slightly different tack.

I keep banging on about 2009/10 because that season was fantastic for a whole range of reasons.  The British strike force being one for me (featuring the unknown pom Tim Brown).

Crouds for both play-offs were healthy.  

How do we (or can we) replicate similar conditions to repeat the experience and generate crouds? 

The time would have been a big factor for families I would imagine. The possibility of extra time and penalties would have meant kids getting to bed pretty late (depending on the age of kids and how long it would take them to get home) on a school night. Even finishing at 90 minutes might have been a pretty late bedtime for some kids by the time they got home.

Heaps of kids at the game.

Yeah there were, but just thought it might have been a factor for many more families.

Particularly if your transport option is Rail replacement.

He's ours.

What stands out in 09/10 compared with our other forays into the finals is a word that Ernie doesn't like, momentum. The 'Nix in 09/10 finished the season with 3 wins (6 wins in the final 8 games) while in 11/12, where we equalled the points tally and position of 09/10, we finished the season with DLL and resulted in a similar turnout as last nights game in the home final against Sydney (which we won). This season we beat our previous best seasons of 09/10 and 11/12 (using points per game) but our momentum leading up to the finals was poor.

We still had our 2nd highest average attendance at Westpac stadium during the regular season.

i feel that you have your season croud from wellington and to get more people involved you have to try and attract people from further away than wellington, kapiti and the hutt. 

The FFA didn't  really spend a lot in promoting the game here did they? The Nix did some, the WCC did naf all, like the FFA. It was almost like no one wanted to own the game and promote it in my opinion. Fans were though. I had quite a few people at my work talking about the team and game which was interesting.

I just wonder if you spent huge bucks on promotion how many people would it have resulted  in attracting?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/local-s...

It's called 'disappointment'. You know, when the team disappoints after a big build up?

I'll keep posting because it gives you and the other usual suspects a good opportunity to have a good rant yourselves since the team are impervious to any negativity in your eyes.

comparing number of his posts in April (when we won 3 games) to number of posts in the last month or so is an interesting exercise. 

Who is that guy? I don't remember seeing him play for the Phoenix... (winky emoticon)

Don't give me any of that bullsharke. You ain't offering any catharsis here and I'm well aware of the shortcomings of the team as is EVERYONE who posts here.

What makes you different from everyone else is the weird twisted bitterness you seem to enjoy when we don't do well - you love it as you can then rant on here. . Your posts don't do anyone any good they are never constructive, so why do you do it?

Easily pleased.

You're making no sense. If I loved us losing, then I wouldn't be moaning about it on here. Surely I'd be quite pleased?

Last night was sharke. The last 3 out of 4 home games were sharke. I do not take pleasure from that, quite the opposite in fact.

The season promised A LOT, even up to 6 weeks ago. We fudgeed it up, that is annoying. That's all there is to it really.

The Guardian mentioned the low croud, saying no wonder because of the Sunday evening date. If we would play like some journous wite, we would get the wooden spoon every single year!

Auckland may be getting a light rail system, and we've got about 4 football grounds, all of which suck.

But the most important issue is that Wellington doesn't have a big enough international airport, so the immigrants don't move there unless they're really motivated to. The other one is - where would they all live? It would be all very well to have J82's Hong Kong apartment blocks for a million+ population, but we can't even get those in Auckland because of all the NIMBYs, and it'll be worse in Wellington where the NIMBYs can stop even harmless sports grounds.

The head Office idea of Capital City is huge money/population not many research until a venture falls over.

There is a proposal for K-Town to get medium density housing.  

Wgtn could be the Pearl of the South Pacific.

Airport, schmairport.

When we get our 1.5 mill capital with your 2 mill Dorkland there'll be a fudgeing big bullet train between the two megalopolises.  With a rest point at Raetihi to get a nice railways pie and cuppa. 

Damn, if Wellington was a 1.5 million city with a vibrant cultural and ethnic mix, I'd most probably move back. Especially since by that stage I'll have retired from playing so I won't live in dread of Sunday mornings in July.

the kebab shop showed the fight?  I don't think I have ever heard of a takeout shop showing a boxing fight..

I assumed so, as even if they were giving away free Kebabs the croud wouldn't have been as big.

Don't businesses have to pay a higher fee to show sky arena events? Bet they just paid the regular price. 

I have heard between $1000 to $1200. Chopah will know.

yeah came down with a mate got home about midnight, felt the same way there was not alot said in the car on the way home, but at least i was in a car and not walking from sanson to turakina.

I met Damon De Bohun on the concourse before the game started, and told him he had traded a decent croud here for a bigger Aussie TV audience.

He said 'the croud looks reasonable'.

I should have remembered to:

• Congratulate him for doing a far better job with the league than Ben Buckley did
• Congratulate him for investigating Perth's salary cap and encourage him to investigate all the clubs
• Ask him for a 10 year licence extension.

Ah well, there's always next time?

Email him, he will answer.

If we don't get a license extension, everyone can blame Bevan.

And his cat! Those bl00dy cats!

Marketing is gonna take a hit.  Thundersticks has announced she is pregnant, due in January.