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Drums

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
but we never drowned them out man, we never chanted when those pepole were playing the drums we were too shocked at the  0-2 scoreline
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
For those of you yelling at the Batucada to shut the phuck up, you are stupid!!!
 
Don't you realise that the Brazilan players thrive on drumming, they need the beats, its an important part of the game in Brazil.
 
So next time bring your own drum and beat off as much as possible. Felipe & co will thank you for it.
 
 
That's what I thought. The Brazilians moved to the beat! They should have them when we're attacking, but not every time though..
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I really enjoyed the drums, it did keep the atmosphere ticking over while there were quieter periods in the game.

IMHO it seems to me as two different footballing cultures, you could almost here a pommy accent in "same old bastards, always cheating" and other chants and then the south american drums.

And there are lots of different cultures in football in getting behind your team, chanting, fireworks, music whatever. At the moment its new and we can't say that one is right and the other is wrong. Over time you may find a unique culture form.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Bullion wrote:
I really enjoyed the drums, it did keep the atmosphere ticking over while there were quieter periods in the game.

IMHO it seems to me as two different footballing cultures, you could almost here a pommy accent in "same old bastards, always cheating" and other chants and then the south american drums.

And there are lots of different cultures in football in getting behind your team, chanting, fireworks, music whatever. At the moment its new and we can't say that one is right and the other is wrong. Over time you may find a unique culture form.


 i see your point  and  after reading the rest of the opinions ,have to agree, everyone supports in a different way, maybe it will just take a little getting used to  and to give them credit they didn't stop drumming all afternoon so  well done 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Bullion wrote:
I really enjoyed the drums, it did keep the atmosphere ticking over while there were quieter periods in the game.

IMHO it seems to me as two different footballing cultures, you could almost here a pommy accent in "same old bastards, always cheating" and other chants and then the south american drums.

And there are lots of different cultures in football in getting behind your team, chanting, fireworks, music whatever. At the moment its new and we can't say that one is right and the other is wrong. Over time you may find a unique culture form.
 

Very good point.  How you were making sense at 1:40 I have no idea :P

 

But personally I wasn't a fan of the drums.  Sure before the game and at half time, maybe even work them into a few chants, but didn't like them constantly going.  Didn't give it a "Football" atmosphere to me...

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yep liked the drums kept the atmosphere humming along  didn't find them that intrusive more hypnotic at times ,how much it influenced play is difficult to tell .

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
They were probably a bit over-used is all.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Thought the drums were great, added to the atmosphere and gave it a bit of South American flavour. Lets embrace it, (and this is no slur on UK fans) we are not at game in the UK so we don't need to act like it all the time (remember we are closer to Brasil than the UK ).
Lets combine the 2 game cultures and go with the flow, imagine it: hankies on the head for the UK flavour and sparkly g strings below for the Brasilian flavour (ok maybe not).
I think we can take the best bits from both parts of fan culture and create somethin unique to NZ and if we keep it up we might find that other sports crowds start learning from us.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Drumming was total overkill. Got no problem with it occasionally, but the constant, never changing beat did my damn head in.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I can't overly talk as I have a hearing problem and could pretty much only hear our chanting and cheering most of the time, but I did enjoy the drums. Perhaps put them on the opposite side of the stadium next time? Less likely to drown us out, but more likely to drown out the chants of the overseas supporters section! 

Oh and get them wearing yellow. So the South Americans on other teams don't get the wrong idea who they're there for
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lose them they took away from the signing in aisle 22
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
They were sh*t. The only thing they achieved  was drowning us out and disrupting any rythm of songs.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The drums can be really effective - as anyone who has been to the Lane and heard the drums there banging out the Yids' beat can testify. Agree about them all wearing yellow - especially the fit bird - maybe she could wear a yellow bikini top?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Maybe if they provided beats for our songs.... and didnt drown us out....
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What was the biggest impact for the 'newer" converts to football and the parents of kids that came along for a look. THE NOISE.
What gives the atmosphere at EPL games in England THE NOISE.
What was the difference between the game on Saturday and the one on Sunday. THE NOISE.
What spurred the players on when they were down. THE NOISE.
Lets get our act together.
"Yellow Fever". Contact "The Drums" and work it out before the next game. Their NOISE and Our NOISE makes the difference.
 

We're Forever Causing Trouble

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

It'd work if they drummed to fit in with the chants etc, not just constantly bang away.

our noise > their noise
Milky Pisswit2007-08-27 09:58:00
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I still reckon the drum noise made it hard to get chants going, everyone needs to be able to hear the first coupla words or the chant falls over
 
 
maybe like someone said get them down the other end
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
(of the island )
 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Drums should be banned as they are in must UK grounds, because the paying support want to have their voices heard.
 
If they were there to help the Brazilians play they could have stayed over the other side of the ground, so as not to annoy and drown out the true fans.
 
They seemed to use the afternoon as a practice session and didn't watch or take note of the tempo of the wonderfull game.
 
Get the drums back to Cuba Street where we can enjoy them in context.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I hought the drums were great before the game KEEP EM IT MAKES OUR BRAZILLIANS FEEL AT HOME . iT JUST MEANS WE HAVE T CHANT LOUDER.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
giddyup wrote:
i was in aisle 22 and we started a chant "shut the drums ups "  


twas a good chant too! it wouldve been alright if they hadn't just kept going with the same beat the whole time, they could've mixed it up and taken loooong breaks, i sort of felt the chanting was lost in the drums and we were competing against them.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The thing is this is a very young club - for a first up effort I thought it was fantastic.

I vote for the drums but I think it will take some time for us to develop a Phoenix fan culture that is uniquely our own.

We are in a great place because we can pick all aspects of football culture and Wellington/NZ culture and mash them up to create something very powerful.

Remember also most NZers are used to dour rugby matches where the crowd response is pre-packaged (stupid music at breaks in play etc)- they are not used to making their OWN fan culture.

I in no way want to see pre-packaged fan culture. The fan culture belongs to us.

However I think the drums can work - It will just take some time to gel.

Respectfully,
Barca.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Perhaps they can learn the chants and play in time to them so that it gets the crowd going!

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
At the end of the day it still comes back to the same solution. Talk to them

We're Forever Causing Trouble

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
A lot of 50/50 people (people who aren't hard core and aren't definitely going to go to each match) were really positive about the drums.  So if they can keep those people coming back then I guess I'm for them.  Seemed really loud though, were they miked up?

Normo's coming home

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Barca wrote:
The thing is this is a very young club - for a first up effort I thought it was fantastic.

I vote for the drums but I think it will take some time for us to develop a Phoenix fan culture that is uniquely our own.

We are in a great place because we can pick all aspects of football culture and Wellington/NZ culture and mash them up to create something very powerful.

Remember also most NZers are used to dour rugby matches where the crowd response is pre-packaged (stupid music at breaks in play etc)- they are not used to making their OWN fan culture.

I in no way want to see pre-packaged fan culture. The fan culture belongs to us.

However I think the drums can work - It will just take some time to gel.

Respectfully,
Barca.
 
I second this.
 
Despite being too hungover to put the drums/brazilian link together during the game, I am now enlightened as to their purpose and value.  Still, these guys must become integrated with the fever's chanting, otherwise the singing fans feel like they're playing against the wind.
 
Also from where I sat, the drumming was about as interesting to listen to as finger tapping.  Still, better than being afflicted with zm/fm at every break.  Was a bit worried when I saw the zm cars outside the stadium. 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hungover BEFORE the match? You poor thing! Haha guess I wasn't the only one, my father and I earnt me a 20-stamp shirt watching the rugby on Saturday.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I have sent a link to this sight to someone I know who was part of the drumming on Sunday- hopefully it can all work together.

I am in Dunedin, without sky tv, so had to make do with updates on this site- until a mate rang me from the game (and I am sure, from the noise, right in the midst of the Yellow Fever area!)- sounded brilliant, and looked great on the tv news. Some good postings on youtube as well give a good idea of the noise you were all making. Brilliant stuff!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The drums didnt really worry me, not a huge fan of them though, I'd prefer to be the one making the noise.

A dog with a bone :)

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
From a womens point of view I really loved the drums. They made me want to get up an dance.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Why don't u just drown out the drums and be done with it - sing louder!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
drums in general work well in the crowd to keep us going, there were definatly a few times where half the fever zone were chanting at a different time to the other half.
just one bass drum or a couple smaller ones around us could help.

as for the drummers at the game, they were pretty average. if they over the otherside of the stadium thats fine by me
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Those drums have just got to go.........I've got a season ticket over in aisle 18 and desperately wanted to join in with all the YF chants but was unable to lock in on the first few words in time because of the noise of the drums.......they sounded like a demented bunch of 3 year olds bashing cr.p out of a saucepan without any of it relating to what was going on on the pitch....we want to improve the football culture and that normally happens when crowds get together to chant....unfortunately I found that most non footballing kiwis sit back with there arms crossed and say "go on, entertain me".....the drums fit in with that ethic....maybe they'd be OK over the other side of the ground, but not so close that they drown out everything and only if they learn to bash the damn things at the appropriate moment with the action!!!!!!

Magic Game....Great chanting........Sh.t drums........
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Sorry I am just not a fan of drums and horns at football matches. I prefer chants and cheers everytime. At least we dont have my pet hate which is the piped music that yanks have at sports aargh!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Drums and crowds at football - have a look on google and/or utube at just one torcida (fan group) from Brasil.

Type in the words os fanaticos

See what is possible...



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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Actually, it works better on utube if you type in the words

os fanaticos bateria

Check it out before judging too quickly...



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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Could be worse ,ive been to a Hurricanes game and had to suffer the constant melancholic drone of these yellow plastic horns that they give to the kids, absolute torture!!
Maybe we need a drum or not to drum poll

Kiwi Jambo2007-08-28 09:03:41

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Is there anyway to get in touch with the drummers?  Have a word with them, once or twice they seemed to get it right, but I agree with most of the comments, they were real annoying for most of it.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

One thing I didnt know until I spoke to the flatties is apparently the sound from our place on Mt Vic was amazing, apparently the drums sounded fantastic and then there was the low level chanting as well, they said their jealously levels were high and for anyone not in there, the sounds coming out where as enticing as the smells from a bakery... so yeah... lets just call it atmosphere!  We have Brazilians in our team, lets embrace it!  Also, if people want to get hold of the drum guy, he has a thread under "chants"....

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ok seems like some of us and others at the game like the drums (I'm not convinced) but if they stay how do we get it so they don't f up the singing????
 
WE NEED TO BE ALLOWED SOME MEGAPHONES TO GET CHANTS STARTED - or NO DRUMS  - we couldn't hear the start of chants over the drums (the chanting was more consitent at the Jets game) - AND like the post above said  other folks couldn't hear us to join in THAT IS BAD,
 
If we make more noise than the drums -  will they just mike the drums up??? Get them down the other end - lets sort it out.
 
 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I loved the drumming...i don't see what the problem is.  It added atmosphere...totally disagree with those in the fever zone who were shouting to shut the f*** up. Bring it on!
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