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FFA to hit divers with match bans

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FFA to hit divers with match bans

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Lets see how long it takes for them to balls this one up. My money is on the Melbourne Victory to be exempt from this Rule change!
 
 
Michael Cockerill
July 30, 2009
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FOOTBALL Federation Australia has launched an assault on divers, with cheats to be banned retrospectively on video evidence under changes to the A-League�s disciplinary codes, to be introduced this season.

FFA will today unveil the tough new measures which will name and shame players who dive. A clause to be added to the regulations will compel the weekly match review panel to search for instances of simulation missed by the referee, and to ban the culprits for two matches if they dive to win a penalty, dive to get an opponent sent off, or both. If a player is sent off as a result of simulation, he will be able to have his red card rescinded.

The A-League becomes only the second competition in the world after the Scottish Premier League to introduce the sanctions, and A-League boss Archie Fraser is confident the cheats will soon get the message once the new season kicks off next week.

��The level of simulation last season was clearly unacceptable, and it�s something we needed to address,�� said Fraser. ��Nobody wants to put up with it, not ourselves, and certainly not the fans. Australians want their football tough, but most of all they want it fair.��

Asked whether he was confident the threat of being banned will change behaviour, Fraser replied: ��I think the chance of being banned for two games is a pretty strong message. If you�re prepared to take the risk, you�re probably going to miss a decent chunk of the season.��

- Sydney FC defender Sebastian Ryall is waiting on the outcome of his appeal against being banned from playing while he fights charges of committing a sexual act with a minor in the courts. Ryall�s appeal against being suspended by FFA until September 3 was heard on Tuesday night, with the tribunal reserving its decision.

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Bad news for Daniel, but lucky we still don't have G**!!!
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Sounds like a great idea, maybe we will get back to proper football
 
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Sydney FC defender Sebastian Ryall is waiting on the outcome of his appeal against being banned from playing while he fights charges of committing a sexual act with a minor in the courts. 
 
If your gonna nail a minor Ryall - best not do it in the courts !
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will probably hurt a couple of teams early in the season - hopefully the learn quickly.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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In principle I don't mind this initiative, however, it could backfire disastrously.  By backfire I mean it could hurt us.
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At least the rest of our team dont go down like bowling pins.
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I think a large part of Daniel's problem now is that he's a small bloke. Most of the time he isn't diving, it's just that he can hardly stand in a gale.

Plus, I think people underrate how good he is at drawing fouls.
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Yay. Yet another outlet for Miron to mouth off at the FFA during the season. We will have coaches complaining every single week that so-and-so was diving and should be suspended. Players get booked for trying to get another player cautioned during the game, what will the FF-Ail do when coaches try to do the same post-match?

Tune in for more double standards.
DKP222009-07-30 16:46:52
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...and best of all it's video citing.  Well, we all know how well that worked last year don't we ?

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Thin edge of the wedge here. Agreed HN and DKP22.
Just imagine..Miron and co. will probably have their own tv crews on all their matches before long so that they can present, in living colour, from multiple camera angles, their version of events.Where would it stop?

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cant remember - who were the main culprits last year?
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Man_utd_fan wrote:
cant remember - who were the main culprits last year?
 
THE TARDS! Its always the Tards!
 
 
 
C-Diddy2009-07-30 17:26:13

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Man_utd_fan wrote:
cant remember - who were the main culprits last year?
 
Cristiano vs Vargas. CRISTIANO THE CHEATING sh*tE 
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Will be interesting to see how they manage this. I've long thought that Football needs to head down this track. Hoping that Daniel either cleans up his act or they do start suspending him. Sick of watching that cheat make us look stupid. Same goes for some players i n other teams.
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Coveny 'won' some superb freekicks the wily old goat
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This will be hard to police.
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Hard News wrote:
Man_utd_fan wrote:
cant remember - who were the main culprits last year?


Brosque.
 
 
Matthew Kemp last round of Season...

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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C-Diddy wrote:
...ban the culprits for two matches if they dive to win a penalty, dive to get an opponent sent off, or both.


What about if they dive to get a free kick? With the right player that can be just as beneficial as a penalty. At the end of the day cheating is cheating, it doesn't matter whether the outcome is a goal, red card or simply an innocuous free-kick, they should be banned.

I guess it's nice to see some sort of retribution being introduced, but can't help feeling that this will cause a lot of controversy.
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el grapadura wrote:
This will be hard to police.


Agreed, they can barely get normal suspensions right. See: Griffiths.

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Hard News wrote:
...and best of all it's video citing.  Well, we all know how well that worked last year don't we ?
Also how that ends up working out for kiwi teams in an ozzie comp. If it goes along the lines of NRL video refs,i can see someone getting suspended for bending down to do their boots up.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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Skaman wrote:
Sounds like a great idea, maybe we will get back to proper football
 
(Norman Hunter, Ron Harris, Nigel Ruddock, Terry Hurlock & Harry Cripps)
 
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Sydney FC defender Sebastian Ryall is waiting on the outcome of his appeal against being banned from playing while he fights charges of committing a sexual act with a minor in the courts. 
 
If your gonna nail a minor Ryall - best not do it in the courts !
 
What classic names Skaman "Bite yer legs off", "Chopper", "Razor", "Wild thing" (Hurlock??)
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Bring back the old days,when nobby got ya there was no need to pretend to fall down. ballane2009-07-30 20:30:26

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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ballane wrote:
Hard News wrote:
...and best of all it's video citing.  Well, we all know how well that worked last year don't we ?
Also how that ends up working out for kiwi teams in an ozzie comp. If it goes along the lines of NRL video refs,i can see someone getting suspended for bending down to do their boots up.


Suspended for allegedly trying to lead the opposition astray?

Must say, Coveny was a wily old goat, no doubt about it but the penalties he won us were pretty fair calls from memory.

And with regards to Brosque, quite possibly the ugliest A-League player since Scott Gemmill.
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What happens when a penalty that wins a game is later said to be a dive by the FFA?
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I think this is great news, and will begin to put an end to the biggest blight on our game.
 
If a few players (from both sides of the Tasman) get banned for 'going down a bit easy' then so be it - eventually they will learn to cut it out of their game and football will be better for it.
 
Only problem I have is that it will go the way of the moving the ball 10 yards towards the goal for back-chat to the referee.  It happened about once and then was promptly forgotten about.

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Frankie Mac wrote:
I think this is great news, and will begin to put an end to the biggest blight on our game.
 
If a few players (from both sides of the Tasman) get banned for 'going down a bit easy' then so be it - eventually they will learn to cut it out of their game and football will be better for it.
 
Only problem I have is that it will go the way of the moving the ball 10 yards towards the goal for back-chat to the referee.  It happened about once and then was promptly forgotten about.
 
Agree with you FM re biggest blight.
 
Yes it is new and there will be issues of consitency and even-handedness (esp wrt the Nix), but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be tried.
 
I suppose my query is are any other leagues trying this (video citing especially)?  If not why not?  Are there more divers here than anywhere else or are we more progressive?  (last part is laced with irony)
 
 
 
 

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Lonegunmen wrote:
Skaman wrote:
Sounds like a great idea, maybe we will get back to proper football
 
(Norman Hunter, Ron Harris, Nigel Ruddock, Terry Hurlock & Harry Cripps)
 
_______________________________________________________________________________
 
Sydney FC defender Sebastian Ryall is waiting on the outcome of his appeal against being banned from playing while he fights charges of committing a sexual act with a minor in the courts. 
 
If your gonna nail a minor Ryall - best not do it in the courts !
 
What classic names Skaman "Bite yer legs off", "Chopper", "Razor", "Wild thing" (Hurlock??)
 
 
Neil Ruddock?

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Yes, Neil Razor Ruddock is the man.
 
I watched tyhe 1966/67 League Cup Final yet again and some of the tackles from both sides were pretty nasty, yet two things happened. The tackled player got back up fairly quickly and carried on and the referee waved play on a lot. No rolling around in that game, cert EPL players would have been hospitalised at least!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Lonegunmen wrote:
Skaman wrote:
Sounds like a great idea, maybe we will get back to proper football
 
(Norman Hunter, Ron Harris, Nigel Ruddock, Terry Hurlock & Harry Cripps)
 
_______________________________________________________________________________
 
Sydney FC defender Sebastian Ryall is waiting on the outcome of his appeal against being banned from playing while he fights charges of committing a sexual act with a minor in the courts. 
 
If your gonna nail a minor Ryall - best not do it in the courts !
 
What classic names Skaman "Bite yer legs off", "Chopper", "Razor", "Wild thing" (Hurlock??)


Bit of Leeds idolising there lol 

Don't know that Cloughy would be very happy though!
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Lonegunmen wrote:
Yes, Neil Razor Ruddock is the man.
 
I watched tyhe 1966/67 League Cup Final yet again and some of the tackles from both sides were pretty nasty, yet two things happened. The tackled player got back up fairly quickly and carried on and the referee waved play on a lot. No rolling around in that game, cert EPL players would have been hospitalised at least!
 
Neil Ruddock played for Liverpool in the 90's
 
Different bloke I think. Carry on...

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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So what is a dive?  Is it when there is no contact?  Or the tackle was a foul, but not hard enough to knock the player over so they fall over anyway?  Or when the tackle was legitimate, but the player falls over when they could have stayed on their feet?

What happens if a player is off balance and trips when they don't intend too?  Will there be education of the players so they know what is allowed and what isn't?  Will overseas players see this as a deterrent to playing in the A-League? 

While this may be a good idea it remains to be seen how well it is implemented.
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I think its all in the rules. A dive is simulation. Where a player has fell in order to get a penalty/ free kick. Usually with little or no contact. Or throwing your arms in the air when you are nudged. Hopefully the FFA will give benefit of the doubt and implement it to the worse cases only.


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FFA to hit divers with match bans?
Have FINA anything to say about this?
 
 
 
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DF - Lulz.
 
PWF - You'd think they should only be looking at no-contact dives, and getting testimony from players. But often members of these kinds of tribunals get over-zealous.
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As someone already mentioned, what if a player trips over themselves or just stumbles and is awarded a penalty?  Will not be happy if we are pinged due to that.
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loyalgunner wrote:
As someone already mentioned, what if a player trips over themselves or just stumbles and is awarded a penalty?  Will not be happy if we are pinged due to that.
 
In this brave new world, the player who trips over himself (is News playing A League now???) will immediately get up and say to the ref that it was not a penalty.  If the ref stands by his decision, the attacking team will just knock the resulting penalty out for a throw in.
 
Due to the fear of being banned a labelled a blouse wearing, shandy drinking cheat, honesty will prevail.  Then we will return to the good old days of groin high bobsleds and refs waving play on.

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C-Diddy wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
Yes, Neil Razor Ruddock is the man.
 
I watched tyhe 1966/67 League Cup Final yet again and some of the tackles from both sides were pretty nasty, yet two things happened. The tackled player got back up fairly quickly and carried on and the referee waved play on a lot. No rolling around in that game, cert EPL players would have been hospitalised at least!
 
Neil Ruddock played for Liverpool in the 90's
 
Different bloke I think. Carry on...
 
Same player, we had him on loan too at QPR late in his career. He played for liverpool and Millwall.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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C-Diddy wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
Yes, Neil Razor Ruddock is the man.
 
I watched tyhe 1966/67 League Cup Final yet again and some of the tackles from both sides were pretty nasty, yet two things happened. The tackled player got back up fairly quickly and carried on and the referee waved play on a lot. No rolling around in that game, cert EPL players would have been hospitalised at least!
 
Neil Ruddock played for Liverpool in the 90's
 
Different bloke I think. Carry on...
 
Same player, we had him on loan too at QPR late in his career. He played for liverpool and Millwall.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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