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http://tvnz.co.nz/football-news/halberg-decision-shows-maturity-4026340
did anyone hear Mahe on Miles davis' show?
I might have a listen. Do you know what time he was on?
go about 45 seconds into the file.
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I don't get the disgust over Drysdale's comments. The guy is just voicing his opinion, so what? Do we want all professional athletes to be just gormless idiots who don't say anything? If people aren't allowed to say what they think then why even bother with having interviews at all because they won't tell you anything. (And most athletes at the moment are too worried about being polite that they rarely give off any insight).
Also a fair bit of rugby hate in this thread. Soccer, which is still a minority sport, cannot afford to hold those sentiments here. Why would rugby people respect you (or even the average New Zealander) if you hope that the All Blacks lose? I will repeat again that the vast majority of people in this country got behind the All Whites at last year's World Cup (just because you don't want someone to win an award doesn't mean you don't like or support the sport, FFS) and a lot of those people were rugby people. It would be nice if the vast majority of soccer people could get behind the All Blacks this year, if not because you love sport then for your country because all New Zealanders will be judged on the success of this event.
Also a fair bit of rugby hate in this thread. Soccer, which is still a minority sport, cannot afford to hold those sentiments here. Why would rugby people respect you (or even the average New Zealander) if you hope that the All Blacks lose? I will repeat again that the vast majority of people in this country got behind the All Whites at last year's World Cup (just because you don't want someone to win an award doesn't mean you don't like or support the sport, FFS) and a lot of those people were rugby people. It would be nice if the vast majority of soccer people could get behind the All Blacks this year, if not because you love sport then for your country because all New Zealanders will be judged on the success of this event.
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I don't get the disgust over Drysdale's comments. The guy is just voicing his opinion, so what? Do we want all professional athletes to be just gormless idiots who don't say anything? If people aren't allowed to say what they think then why even bother with having interviews at all because they won't tell you anything. (And most athletes at the moment are too worried about being polite that they rarely give off any insight).
Also a fair bit of rugby hate in this thread. Soccer, which is still a minority sport, cannot afford to hold those sentiments here.* Why would rugby people respect you (or even the average New Zealander) if you hope that the All Blacks lose? I will repeat again that the vast majority of people in this country got behind the All Whites at last year's World Cup (just because you don't want someone to win an award doesn't mean you don't like or support the sport, FFS) and a lot of those people were rugby people.** It would be nice if the vast majority of soccer people could get behind the All Blacks this year, if not because you love sport then for your country because all New Zealanders will be judged on the success of this event.***
Also a fair bit of rugby hate in this thread. Soccer, which is still a minority sport, cannot afford to hold those sentiments here.* Why would rugby people respect you (or even the average New Zealander) if you hope that the All Blacks lose? I will repeat again that the vast majority of people in this country got behind the All Whites at last year's World Cup (just because you don't want someone to win an award doesn't mean you don't like or support the sport, FFS) and a lot of those people were rugby people.** It would be nice if the vast majority of soccer people could get behind the All Blacks this year, if not because you love sport then for your country because all New Zealanders will be judged on the success of this event.***
We're just voicing our opinion, so what? Or do you want us to be just gormless idiots who don't say anything? If people aren't allowed to say what they think then why even bother with having a forum?
* Slightly condescending.
** Hmmm.
*** You're not Martin Snedden are you?
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*** You're not Martin Snedden are you?
No, he's William Harris, age 48.
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It would be nice if the vast majority of soccer people could get behind the All Blacks this year, if not because you love sport then for your country because all New Zealanders will be judged on the success of this event.
Say what???? I don't intend to be judged by the success or other wise of the All Blacks, thanks very much. This sounds like World War 2 propaganda! "Your country needs you" etc. I'd like to see NZ move past needing the All Blacks to win the World Cup to bolster up their sense of national pride - cos that day may never come and our national pride will remain in tatters. We are so much better, as a country, than that.
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Oh - and I think rugby is a very boring game to watch. Just my opinion.
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I'll be supporting the All Blacks this year. Always have growing up even though I'm a football nut. The Super15 bores me sh*tless however.
Fuck this stupid game
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question, if say Kosta had got the golden boot this year, would he be nominated for the emerging talent award?
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Depends on the criteria?
Allegedly
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I think he would be, but only because he's won something.
Fuck this stupid game
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question, if say Kosta had got the golden boot this year, would he be nominated for the emerging talent award?
Did he not get nominated? Big ups to Gareth though. Fantastic athlete and a real wicked dude
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This sounds like another entry for Frankie mac's new favourite game...
Rattue's take on the coaching and the Paraguay match tactics is right on the mark. Ricki's Halberg should be inscribed with 'OBE'. Other Bastard's Efforts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Steptoe]One shot for glory and Herbert didn't pull the trigger. He was evidently satisfied with a draw, but his senior players wanted to go for a place in the last 16.
[QUOTE=Steptoe]One shot for glory and Herbert didn't pull the trigger. He was evidently satisfied with a draw, but his senior players wanted to go for a place in the last 16.
So was Ricki in charge or not mate? You don't seem to be able to make up your mind.
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I don't get the disgust over Drysdale's comments. The guy is just voicing his opinion, so what? Do we want all professional athletes to be just gormless idiots who don't say anything? If people aren't allowed to say what they think then why even bother with having interviews at all because they won't tell you anything. (And most athletes at the moment are too worried about being polite that they rarely give off any insight).
Also a fair bit of rugby hate in this thread. Soccer, which is still a minority sport, cannot afford to hold those sentiments here. Why would rugby people respect you (or even the average New Zealander) if you hope that the All Blacks lose? I will repeat again that the vast majority of people in this country got behind the All Whites at last year's World Cup (just because you don't want someone to win an award doesn't mean you don't like or support the sport, FFS) and a lot of those people were rugby people. It would be nice if the vast majority of soccer people could get behind the All Blacks this year, if not because you love sport then for your country because all New Zealanders will be judged on the success of this event.
Also a fair bit of rugby hate in this thread. Soccer, which is still a minority sport, cannot afford to hold those sentiments here. Why would rugby people respect you (or even the average New Zealander) if you hope that the All Blacks lose? I will repeat again that the vast majority of people in this country got behind the All Whites at last year's World Cup (just because you don't want someone to win an award doesn't mean you don't like or support the sport, FFS) and a lot of those people were rugby people. It would be nice if the vast majority of soccer people could get behind the All Blacks this year, if not because you love sport then for your country because all New Zealanders will be judged on the success of this event.
I don't think it was disgust (at least from my point of view), more disappointment that such an uninformed view is out there in the mainstream sporting press, and amongst sports people. There seems to be a pervading view that every opinion, no matter how ridiculous, deserves respect. To me, the statements that he made serve only to prove him the "gormless idiot" you hope that people speaking out. There is little interest in Mahe's opinion other than showing up how poorly informed many sportsmen and women are when it comes to other codes.
On the other hand, we really shouldn't get so worked up about all of this. The media in NZ is obsessed with 4 sports, Rugby, Netball, Sailing and Rowing. That's just the way it is, was and (probably) always will be. Unsurprisingly, a panel of sportsmen and women favour those sports when dishing out the prizes. Why get so up in arms??
Normo's coming home
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cos it's fun - have you ever had fun JD?
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cos it's fun - have you ever had fun JD?
What is this "fun" you speak of??
Normo's coming home
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cos it's fun - have you ever had fun JD?
What is this "fun" you speak of??
I dunno, but apparently swingers and Mormons have it
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This�sounds like�another entry for Frankie mac's new favourite game...
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Rattue's take on the coaching and the Paraguay match tactics is right on the mark.�Ricki's Halberg should be inscribed with 'OBE'. Other Bastard's Efforts.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Steptoe]One shot for glory and Herbert didn't pull the trigger. He was evidently satisfied with a draw, but his senior players wanted to go for a place in the last 16.
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So was Ricki in charge or not mate? You don't seem to be able to make up your mind.
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The point is he either ran things or he didn't. If he wasn't running things, and was just the man in the suit, you can't blame him for not 'pulling the trigger' as according to you (and your sources) he wasn't the one holding the gun.
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I don't get the disgust over Drysdale's comments. The guy is just voicing his opinion, so what? Do we want all professional athletes to be just gormless idiots who don't say anything? If people aren't allowed to say what they think then why even bother with having interviews at all because they won't tell you anything. (And most athletes at the moment are too worried about being polite that they rarely give off any insight).
Also a fair bit of rugby hate in this thread. Soccer, which is still a minority sport, cannot afford to hold those sentiments here. Why would rugby people respect you (or even the average New Zealander) if you hope that the All Blacks lose? I will repeat again that the vast majority of people in this country got behind the All Whites at last year's World Cup (just because you don't want someone to win an award doesn't mean you don't like or support the sport, FFS) and a lot of those people were rugby people. It would be nice if the vast majority of soccer people could get behind the All Blacks this year, if not because you love sport then for your country because all New Zealanders will be judged on the success of this event.
Also a fair bit of rugby hate in this thread. Soccer, which is still a minority sport, cannot afford to hold those sentiments here. Why would rugby people respect you (or even the average New Zealander) if you hope that the All Blacks lose? I will repeat again that the vast majority of people in this country got behind the All Whites at last year's World Cup (just because you don't want someone to win an award doesn't mean you don't like or support the sport, FFS) and a lot of those people were rugby people. It would be nice if the vast majority of soccer people could get behind the All Blacks this year, if not because you love sport then for your country because all New Zealanders will be judged on the success of this event.
lol wut? Mahe can say whatever the fuck he wants, just like how i can. And what i will say is that if you think "soccer" is a minority sport, youre a twat. And wheres the Rugby hate? Just because id rather watch football doesnt mean i actively hate rugby. Tell me what boxes NZ football doesnt tick that make it such a minority game?
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http://tvnz.co.nz/football-news/halberg-decision-shows-maturity-4026340
did anyone hear Mahe on Miles davis' show?
I might have a listen. Do you know what time he was on?
go about 45 seconds into the file.
Thanks for that. I listened to it last night. Truth be told, it just sounded like Mahe was digging a deeper hole.
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Do we want all professional athletes to be just gormless idiots who don't say anything?
Better to be a gormless idiot that doesn't say anything than a gormless idiot who does say things. Big issue for me was he was talking about achievement but completely fails to comprehend that achievement is always relative to the competitiveness of competition. It's almost impossible to compare football and rowing because the difference in competitiveness is off the scale - even if you didn't divide rowing up into a dozen different events to further trivialise it.
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The point is he either ran things or he didn't. If he wasn't running things, and was just the man in the suit, you can't blame him for not 'pulling the trigger' as according to you (and your sources) he wasn't the one holding the gun.
I think the meme is: "Nelsen was running everything for the first two games. For the last game, when he was sick, Ricki was left in charge and he screwed it up." Not that I've ever seen shred one of evidence for this apart from the rumour mill of people who are angry and bitter that Ricki Herbert has two coaching jobs when they don't have any.
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Let's try this one more time...
One shot for glory and Herbert didn't pull the trigger. He was evidently satisfied with a draw, but his senior players wanted to go for a place in the last 16.[/QUOTE]
Oh right, so Herbert's in charge and he should take the blame.
[QUOTE=Steptoe] Perfectly clear. Herbert nominally occupied the position. Talk to people close to the squad, as Rattue has done.
Hold on! Now he's not in charge, so he shouldn't take the blame?
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Stop applying logic Termie, you big meanie
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It's all right everyone, Murray Deaker is trying to sort this out right now.
Miles Davis and Mark Richardson are giving the All Whites props.
Murray doesn't seem sure. Best he can do is "we all agree, it's very subjective"
EDIT: I think it was all getting too much for Murray, he's moved on to talking about rugby already. terminator_x2011-02-16 20:46:53
Miles Davis and Mark Richardson are giving the All Whites props.
Murray doesn't seem sure. Best he can do is "we all agree, it's very subjective"
EDIT: I think it was all getting too much for Murray, he's moved on to talking about rugby already. terminator_x2011-02-16 20:46:53
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I'd feel ALOT happier if Eric Young said he likes the sport again.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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It's all right everyone, Murray Deaker is trying to sort this out right now.
Miles Davis and Mark Richardson are giving the All Whites props.
Murray doesn't seem sure. Best he can do is "we all agree, it's very subjective"
EDIT: I think it was all getting too much for Murray, he's moved on to talking about rugby already.
On sunday, Murray wanted McCaw to win it "becoz Rugby's our national game".Miles Davis and Mark Richardson are giving the All Whites props.
Murray doesn't seem sure. Best he can do is "we all agree, it's very subjective"
EDIT: I think it was all getting too much for Murray, he's moved on to talking about rugby already.
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Did he say these old Deaker "goldies"...
"I don't really understand soccer"
or
"Soccer's too complicated for me".
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"Rugby's modern-day violent culture can be linked to the terraces of British soccer".
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or
"Can I come on your rocket Stevo? I really do like poofball."
"Can I come on your rocket Stevo? I really do like poofball."
"Phoenix till they lose"
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I'd feel ALOT happier if Eric Young said he likes the sport again.
"Love sought is good, but given unsought is better".
William Shakespeare
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Did he say these old Deaker "goldies"...
"I don't really understand soccer"
or
"Soccer's too complicated for me".
or
"Rugby's modern-day violent culture can be linked to the terraces of British soccer".
Sorry Stevo, I wasn't really listening too closely.
He did come out with some rambling story about how he used to be on the Halbergs panel back in 1998 but then he quit, something to do with "Peter Williams" and "being gay"?
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Poor old Drysdale no more Halbergs for him because he didn't win anything
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World championships silver medalist Mahe Drysdale
Allegedly
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Since there are a fair few rugby-haters on here, who should we give the team of the year to? Murray and Bond, for going unbeaten all year? The Breakers? Or the All Blacks?
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All Whites. Drawing with China was a massive achievement.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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Doug Bracewell for sportsman of the year.
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I don't understand the halbergs, isn't it a national team representative award. How are the Breakers and Warriors NZ teams when they have foreigners in them?
Halbergs are bollocks anyway.
Halbergs are bollocks anyway.
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Mark Richardson suggested tongue in cheek last night that he was going to be voting for the All Whites despite them not being nominated. 
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