Ian Hogg (Wellington Phoenix)

There's a difference between 'knocking' a player, and saying that he isn't as good as another player. People suggested that if he were at the Nix, he would be pushing Lochhead for the starting spot, and I said that he isn't close to pushing Lochhhead, yet. Did I say that he was a crap player? No. 

If you think that just because you are a ACFC supporter your opinions are considered worthless by everyone on here, then think again. I have no problem with your opinions on the matter, in fact I like hearing opinions from a different angle. What I don't like is being told that because I am not from Auckland, that I am not allowed to express my own opinion of an Auckland based player, playing for a team that I actually support and follow quite closely.

I think Lochead is a little more sound defensively, where as Hogg's pace allows him to recover quite well.

Hogg does however, pose more of a threat going forward and seems more aggressive on attack. I have not seen enough of Rowe to have any opinion on him really.

I don't want the nix to sign him, not because i don't think he can cut it, but more because i want to see NZ players playing and not warming the bench.

Having NZ's two best keepers etc playing for the same club??? One plays one always watching doesn't give match practice which is essential for development and maintaining form, why repeat it with our two left backs??

I just hope Ian Hogg gets the opportunity to prove to you Nix fans that he's worth keeping. It has been a difficult transition for him coming off a non-playing period straight into a struggling A League side but he's a player for the future. His pace and attacking instincts will serve you well while he finds his feet as a defender in a higher level than the ASBP.

I do believe he has the ability. I just hope Ricki will give him the opportunity to develop.

But we haven't, why would we? None of us ever watched... whats the thing called.. The Commonwealth bank of Australia ... No.. The Westpac league of football N.Z?

The way I hear it, it's the best thing ever and should be made fully professional. 

I also hear that the Phoenix are stealing all it's money and the TV coverage that NZ National Leagues have had for the last 30 years.

The way I hear it, it's the best thing ever and should be made fully professional. 

I also hear that the Phoenix are stealing all it's money and the TV coverage that NZ National Leagues have had for the last 30 years.

[/quote] Oh right! I would be intrigued to find out the big names in the league. Young local exciting players all home grown?

 Bit of a wankfest there HN and JV

 Bit of a wankfest there HN and JV

Wait til True Blue returns with Simon Elliot in his pocket.

I just hope Ian Hogg gets the opportunity to prove to you Nix fans that he's worth keeping. It has been a difficult transition for him coming off a non-playing period straight into a struggling A League side but he's a player for the future. His pace and attacking instincts will serve you well while he finds his feet as a defender in a higher level than the ASBP.

I do believe he has the ability. I just hope Ricki will give him the opportunity to develop.[/quote]

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 Where is there a disparaging comment about his opinion?  Where is he insulted?

The majority of those posts are in response to how patronising he (and you) are as though you're the only ones who ever watched a domestic football player.

The last comment -

Just what we were doing.

Reports from training are that Tony Lochhead may be back in the first team.

3, 2, 1... outrage!