Alex 'The second best' Rufer

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MetalLegNZ
Mainland FC
I used to think Rufer was slow; now I think he is thoughtful and deliberate - a sign of maturity creeping in. 


His or yours?

Oi, who do you call mature?  I mean his of course.
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Procrastinixing
How has Rufer only played 100 games? Hasn't he been here for over 10 years?  What am I missing/forgetting?
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Did his ACL

Edit: Also the framed picture says he reached 100 against Sydney FC in Feb 2022 - so that's over 2 years ago
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Was also on the outer for a bit. I remember when Anthony Hudson selected him for the All Whites despite him not even making the phoenix match day squad. Rufer was even told he was not required at one point and had to trial to remain at the club.

Is really a remarkable story.
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LGMainland FCmamj+3
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Procrastinixing
How has Rufer only played 100 games? Hasn't he been here for over 10 years?  What am I missing/forgetting?
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Did his ACL

Edit: Also the framed picture says he reached 100 against Sydney FC in Feb 2022 - so that's over 2 years ago
 He is up to 154 A-league games now. 
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maynardf
Half a Pint
Procrastinixing
How has Rufer only played 100 games? Hasn't he been here for over 10 years?  What am I missing/forgetting?
the 100 and 300 club.jpg 397.96 KB
Did his ACL

Edit: Also the framed picture says he reached 100 against Sydney FC in Feb 2022 - so that's over 2 years ago
 He is up to 154 A-league games now. 

Was gonna say he must have well surpassed that by now. Half of those must be as captain, or thereabouts? 

Edit: forgot sail was captain. 
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almost 2 years ago
Is that more simply put - the 100 club - at least those still based in NZ?

To get to 100 A League games takes 5 years which is a long time at a club that is hopefully a stepping stone to somewhere else.
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almost 2 years ago
I should have gone to spec savers as I didn't even see that! 
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Procrastinixing
How has Rufer only played 100 games? Hasn't he been here for over 10 years?  What am I missing/forgetting?
the 100 and 300 club.jpg 397.96 KB
Did his ACL

Edit: Also the framed picture says he reached 100 against Sydney FC in Feb 2022 - so that's over 2 years ago
Half a Pint
Procrastinixing
How has Rufer only played 100 games? Hasn't he been here for over 10 years?  What am I missing/forgetting?
the 100 and 300 club.jpg 397.96 KB
Did his ACL

Edit: Also the framed picture says he reached 100 against Sydney FC in Feb 2022 - so that's over 2 years ago
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newzealandpowerProcrastinixingWhoStoleMySock
almost 2 years ago
I completely forgot about the time Mitch Nicholls played for us. 

Good interview from Piney.   
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Procrastinixing
I completely forgot about the time Mitch Nicholls played for us. 

Good interview from Piney.   

Its probably something we all want to forget :)
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Procrastinixing
I completely forgot about the time Mitch Nicholls played for us. 

Good interview from Piney.   
Butters' 45 mins vs CCM in his last appearance might be the worst performance by anyone In a Nix shirt ever, including fans wearing replica Nix kits having a kick around at the park. It was so bad. 
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LGloSamCoughlanWhoStoleMySock
almost 2 years ago · edited almost 2 years ago · History
Rufs must be gutted in that his missed pen and/or being banned for 1 game cost the club its first ever silverware.

I know Aus and maybe NZ gets turned on by a end of season shootout (playoffs) but winning the League is the biggest thing for me as it is for 95+% of all other sports competitions.
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almost 2 years ago
Marto
Rufs must be gutted in that his missed pen and/or being banned for 1 game cost the club its first ever silverware.

I know Aus and maybe NZ gets turned on by a end of season shootout (playoffs) but winning the League is the biggest thing for me as it is for 95+% of all other sports competitions.
Missing the Pen meant nothing in the end - we would have been equal on points, but behind on number of wins.

CCM won the league a few weeks back when they beat us in Central Coast 2-1 last minute...
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dunnixMainland FCmjnewzealandpower+1
almost 2 years ago
Can't blame the season on one player or one moment. Plenty of moments where we could have eeked out a little more and won it.
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almost 2 years ago · edited almost 2 years ago · History
Marto
Rufs must be gutted in that his missed pen and/or being banned for 1 game cost the club its first ever silverware.

I know Aus and maybe NZ gets turned on by a end of season shootout (playoffs) but winning the League is the biggest thing for me as it is for 95+% of all other sports competitions.

95+% of football comps for sure you are correct. But the USA the biggest sports market in the universe, has all of it's Big 4 plus others like the MLS with playoffs/finals systems.

UK & French rugby comps have finals. The big money 20/20 cricket comps incl IPL.

I'm guessing other domestic basketball leagues (2nd biggest world sport after football?) outside the NBA have finals. UEFA Champions League with it's massive global audience obviously has finals.

Some other domestic football comps like Peru & Colombia have final series. Usually 2 legged.
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Mainland FCmrsmiis
almost 2 years ago
The Championship has the biggest play off (is a final in reality) game to get in the Premier League.
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MetalLegNZ
The Championship has the biggest play off (is a final in reality) game to get in the Premier League.

True, but the league winners are exempt from it. Anyway, we had multiple moments that lost us the league. Brisbane being one of them. Felt at the time that that was critical, then the 2-1 loss to ccm was an absolute hammer blow.
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almost 2 years ago
Whats the story with Merrick telling Rufer he had no future at the club ?. 
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almost 2 years ago
axxaa
Whats the story with Merrick telling Rufer he had no future at the club ?. 
???
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/phoenix/8959013/Merrick-sees-bright-future-for-young-Rufer
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axxaa
Whats the story with Merrick telling Rufer he had no future at the club ?. 
if someone said that it would have more likely have been Kalezic who also told Krishna that he should give up football and play rugby instead.
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almost 2 years ago
axxaa
Whats the story with Merrick telling Rufer he had no future at the club ?. 

Merrick got really annoyed at Tyler wotsit when he left because he’d invested a lot of coaching in him iirc. I remember that. 

Tbh too Rufer was a bit confused about his best position and his game at a point there and Matt Ridenton looked the better player. Don’t think Rufer fit at the club as a striker really. We weren’t youth focused at that point and I think all of those guys would find the pathway much clearer today. 


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almost 2 years ago
Yeah, I saw an interview with Rufer at the time where he said he'd identified that the team had a lack of depth in the defensive midfielder role, so he was going to stop being a striker and would start being one of those.

I often think that the reputation Rufer has is because we saw him learn his craft in his new position in public with very limited game time and a couple of big injuries to contend with. There's no doubt in my mind that wihtout the injuries, or with more game time, that he would have gotten to the point he is now quite a lot quicker.
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almost 2 years ago
Ryan
Yeah, I saw an interview with Rufer at the time where he said he'd identified that the team had a lack of depth in the defensive midfielder role, so he was going to stop being a striker and would start being one of those.

I often think that the reputation Rufer has is because we saw him learn his craft in his new position in public with very limited game time and a couple of big injuries to contend with. There's no doubt in my mind that wihtout the injuries, or with more game time, that he would have gotten to the point he is now quite a lot quicker.


Never knew that, just adds to my respect for him. Learning a whole new position in public is no mean feat.
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newzealandpower
almost 2 years ago
" Matt Ridenton ". Wow, that name takes me back

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almost 2 years ago
Doloras
" Matt Ridenton ". Wow, that name takes me back
Feels fake that he briefly came back in 2020/21
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dunnixWanderingSheepWhoStoleMySock
almost 2 years ago
And get this: dude’s only 28. His and Rufer’s trajectories are kind of weird, not gunna lie.


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theprofWanderingSheep
almost 2 years ago
Pretty sure Merrick told Totori to bugger off. Kalezic was Watson. Rudan offers Rufer a trial when his contract was up.
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axxaa
Whats the story with Merrick telling Rufer he had no future at the club ?. 

Merrick got really annoyed at Tyler wotsit when he left because he’d invested a lot of coaching in him iirc. I remember that. 

Tbh too Rufer was a bit confused about his best position and his game at a point there and Matt Ridenton looked the better player. Don’t think Rufer fit at the club as a striker really. We weren’t youth focused at that point and I think all of those guys would find the pathway much clearer today. 


What Mark Ridenton? One of the best things Rudan did was to send him packing.
 
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WanderingSheep
Ryan
Yeah, I saw an interview with Rufer at the time where he said he'd identified that the team had a lack of depth in the defensive midfielder role, so he was going to stop being a striker and would start being one of those.

I often think that the reputation Rufer has is because we saw him learn his craft in his new position in public with very limited game time and a couple of big injuries to contend with. There's no doubt in my mind that wihtout the injuries, or with more game time, that he would have gotten to the point he is now quite a lot quicker.


Never knew that, just adds to my respect for him. Learning a whole new position in public is no mean feat.
Also shows that he's always been fairly strategic and with good self-reflection. 
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Mainland FCWanderingSheep
almost 2 years ago
I've just looked at the PFA team of the season. I noticed that Rufer is included and Kosta is not. I don't think that Rufer got an award at our awards night (you can correct me). In my view the PFA got it right. Forget goals scored, at playing his position, Alex Rufer has been the best player in the league this season. If he was a year or two younger, I'd be certain that he had a big European future.
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almost 2 years ago
kungfu panda
I've just looked at the PFA team of the season. I noticed that Rufer is included and Kosta is not. I don't think that Rufer got an award at our awards night (you can correct me). In my view the PFA got it right. Forget goals scored, at playing his position, Alex Rufer has been the best player in the league this season. If he was a year or two younger, I'd be certain that he had a big European future.
Kosta was named on the subs bench for the PFA team
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kuMainland FC
almost 2 years ago
A lot of players scored heavily this season - more than any other year arguably.

But in terms of importance - Rufer clearly is the first name on team sheet this season.
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coochieeGooner 4 LifeWanderingSheep
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Dome stated in that excellent A Leagues article someone posted - the blossoming ot Rufer as one of 3 major factors for the Nix this season. The other Chief (Kiwi like in his behaviour) & a 3rd I can't remember.

But Dome made a definite point of mentioning Rufer, is a standout factor in this season's success. Know one knows the club better than David Dome, he's been there a long time.

So I'd say as well as the stuff we see on field, and in post match interviews (very impressive, calm,steely,  measured, matter of fact - a real leader), Rufer is now a huge presence around the club in general.

I mean it helps when you are winning, but there is far less whining from the club now about refs, and other 'the world is against the Nix' type baggage. That stuff always bugged me. Merrick & Durante were bad with it. It's not a winning mentality. For sure the reffing has got better, and is no more Nix Out FA shark going on etc. The club are yes a more valued part of the league.

But I reckon Rufer is a driver of a no excuses type mentality, that holds everyone to high standards, whilst also embracing the young guys coming in making them feel welcome and free to express themselves. Again winning helps alot in all that.
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axxaaGooner 4 LifeMainland FCmj+3
almost 2 years ago
MetalLegNZ
A lot of players scored heavily this season - more than any other year arguably.

But in terms of importance - Rufer clearly is the first name on team sheet this season.

Try telling Bazeley that. 


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Oi Oi EdgecumbeWanderingSheep
almost 2 years ago
I will forgive Beazley simply because they are two different teams. Rufer IMO should be well ahead of Lewis in the NZ set up currently, but not Stamenic.

Ball and Garbett are interesting for different reasons, one (Garbs) seems like the only guy outside Wood who actually scores and the other is our captain in Woods absence. Short of form, although he seems to have refound it recently, but is/has played at a higher level.

Rufer needs to go overseas to earn a starting spot, bu proving he is a quality player against better opposition that he currently gets in the A League.
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almost 2 years ago · edited almost 2 years ago · History
Rufer was a changed player after his ACL, that injury was a blessing in disguise.
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Mainland FCOi Oi EdgecumbetheprofWanderingSheep+1
almost 2 years ago
Sometimes I think he must have spent his rehab watching clips of sergio busquets
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