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Boro4eva wrote:

A step in the right direction but still not a striker..need someone who will score 10-15 goals per season.

Kosta scored 11 in a season at the Roar
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mjp2 wrote:

.... by which I mean,

they make the hard calls

they are demanding and lead from the front

and they are extremely focused on standards, improvement and winning.

Often very decent, caring, civil people with very high moral and professional standards, but they only know one way and that's through, over, around and forwards.  Legal killers of anything stopping them.

Just couldn't help sharing that thought.  No problem. :)

;)

You've just described Kevin Muscat.

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Mainland FC wrote:

mjp2 wrote:

.... by which I mean,

they make the hard calls

they are demanding and lead from the front

and they are extremely focused on standards, improvement and winning.

Often very decent, caring, civil people with very high moral and professional standards, but they only know one way and that's through, over, around and forwards.  Legal killers of anything stopping them.

Just couldn't help sharing that thought.  No problem. :)

;)

You've just described Kevin Muscat.

You lost me on decent caring civil high moral standards and Kevin Muscat

but I was being somewhat facetious, so fair cop

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Oska wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

A step in the right direction but still not a striker..need someone who will score 10-15 goals per season.

Kosta scored 11 in a season at the Roar

True(2010/11)....has scored 17 in 103 games since then.  Goal every five games is not a main striker stat we need.

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Boro4eva wrote:

Oska wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

A step in the right direction but still not a striker..need someone who will score 10-15 goals per season.

Kosta scored 11 in a season at the Roar

True(2010/11)....has scored 17 in 103 games since then.  Goal every five games is not a main striker stat we need.

playing as more of a winger than a wide striker since then. If you play him to score goals then he will score goals.
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Boro4eva wrote:

Oska wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

A step in the right direction but still not a striker..need someone who will score 10-15 goals per season.

Kosta scored 11 in a season at the Roar

True(2010/11)....has scored 17 in 103 games since then.  Goal every five games is not a main striker stat we need.

Isn't that about equal to what Burns had before he came here? I think Kosta could do a Burns for us, pretty similar type of player really. Then with Krishna and Powell, and maybe Watson or another big young guy for a plan B, I think our attack could do the trick.

Edit: Also, IIRC most of his games in Europe were off the bench which wouldn't help the goals to games ratio. 15 in 69 for MV in a team where Archie and Berisha were expected to score most of them. Still not brilliant but he has the potential to score more I think.

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I think that Watson and Kosta with Krishna up front with weemac, roly and riera supporting from the midfield is a killer set up, add to that mix powell, a-rod and we look really good for next season. Just got to sort out the defence, but I think Fox, gulley and the greek kid look the goods too.

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theprof wrote:

I think that Watson and Kosta with Krishna up front with weemac, roly and riera supporting from the midfield is a killer set up, add to that mix powell, a-rod and we look really good for next season. Just got to sort out the defence, but I think Fox, gulley and the greek kid look the goods too.

Danaskos?

Serepisos?

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This is what ernie does.

He likes strikers with pace and quick feet. To him Kosta is a striker any day of the week. 

I trust ernie. 

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Oska wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

A step in the right direction but still not a striker..need someone who will score 10-15 goals per season.

Kosta scored 11 in a season at the Roar

Playing in by far the best team that has ever played in this league.  That Brisbane team has not been matched since. 

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valeo wrote:

Oska wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

A step in the right direction but still not a striker..need someone who will score 10-15 goals per season.

Kosta scored 11 in a season at the Roar

Playing in by far the best team that has ever played in this league.  That Brisbane team has not been matched since. 

Which shows how good he can be at A League level because it's not like he was a passenger in that team
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The only unbeaten captain at a certain world cup? Ryan Nelsen.

Backroom captain, Schweinsteiger marched the troops on the field, teamwork.

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number8 wrote:

The only unbeaten captain at a certain world cup? Ryan Nelsen.

Backroom captain, Schweinsteiger marched the troops on the field, teamwork.

Schweiny played for the AWs?
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valeo wrote:

Oska wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

A step in the right direction but still not a striker..need someone who will score 10-15 goals per season.

Kosta scored 11 in a season at the Roar

Playing in by far the best team that has ever played in this league.  That Brisbane team has not been matched since. 

Which shows how good he can be at A League level because it's not like he was a passenger in that team

He was also not the reason they were great - he was a part of it, sure, but I think any decent winger would've scored for fun there.

I think he's actually progressed much further in the last season or season and a half at MV, despite not scoring as many goals. He's a constant threat.

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valeo wrote:

valeo wrote:

Oska wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

A step in the right direction but still not a striker..need someone who will score 10-15 goals per season.

Kosta scored 11 in a season at the Roar

Playing in by far the best team that has ever played in this league.  That Brisbane team has not been matched since. 

Which shows how good he can be at A League level because it's not like he was a passenger in that team

He was also not the reason they were great - he was a part of it, sure, but I think any decent winger would've scored for fun there.

I think he's actually progressed much further in the last season or season and a half at MV, despite not scoring as many goals. He's a constant threat.

Agreed. Kosta developed further at MV and the team around him was just as good in recent years (maybe not as good to watch as Roar.

What Roar used to play under Ange was the most sublime football on Australian soil ever, week in week out,in those few years.

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No way barba will be the solution to the goal scoring problems on his own. He has never been an out and out striker and never will be. For me Krishna is the answer if he stays fit and his supporting players do the same we should be fine. I would have a 4-2-3-1 formation with Barba and Powell/watson on the wings with Krishna up front then finkler behind him. Riera and wee mac as a deep lying player maker as he does a bit for the all whites. Wee mac creates more goals than he scores so I don't think we will lose much in this way. Another benefit of Barba is that he tracks back or has done so a fair bit for the Vic so we could get away with a fenton type attacking fullback. Krishna should be fine to score on a consistent basis just need to keep him fit the players around him will ensure he gets plenty of chances.    

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Link2588 wrote:

No way barba will be the solution to the goal scoring problems on his own. He has never been an out and out striker and never will be. For me Krishna is the answer if he stays fit and his supporting players do the same we should be fine. I would have a 4-2-3-1 formation with Barba and Powell/watson on the wings with Krishna up front then finkler behind him. Riera and wee mac as a deep lying player maker as he does a bit for the all whites. Wee mac creates more goals than he scores so I don't think we will lose much in this way. Another benefit of Barba is that he tracks back or has done so a fair bit for the Vic so we could get away with a fenton type attacking fullback. Krishna should be fine to score on a consistent basis just need to keep him fit the players around him will ensure he gets plenty of chances.    

no Bonevacia in this formation?
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ha Roly forgot about him. I think chuck him on the other wing he creates a ton of goals and has played wide a few times and done well. That would leave powell and Watson as decent subs to bring on later in the game. Pretty much leaves us set we just need maybe one more decent attacker and a solid CB lia could be a decent option although he is a bit short

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I think given how Ernie likes to play, I'd expect Kosta and Krishna to be wide forwards, with Finkler as a false 9. The alignment of the three midfielders in that type of formation would be interesting though - you'd think that one out of Roly or WeeMac (and based on the last couple of seasons, you'd have to say the latter) would probably have to end up on the bench.

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el grapadura wrote:

I think given how Ernie likes to play, I'd expect Kosta and Krishna to be wide forwards, with Finkler as a false 9. The alignment of the three midfielders in that type of formation would be interesting though - you'd think that one out of Roly or WeeMac (and based on the last couple of seasons, you'd have to say the latter) would probably have to end up on the bench.

That's how I thought we would play too. Basically a diamond midfield with the forwards providing attacking width when required or with fullback bombing forward if they cut in. It's the same formation we played most of last season but Finkler replaces WeeMac and Kosta replaces Burns. I think Roly looked better as one of the CMs in that setup than he has in a more advanced role this season, so I'd be happy with him dropping back. It then becomes a question of whether you go with A-Rod or Riera at DM/A-Rod or WeeMac at CM. The quality off our new defence might affect the decision too. We might not want to expose them too much, which would mean that WeeMac would be the one to make way.
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el grapadura wrote:

I think given how Ernie likes to play, I'd expect Kosta and Krishna to be wide forwards, with Finkler as a false 9. The alignment of the three midfielders in that type of formation would be interesting though - you'd think that one out of Roly or WeeMac (and based on the last couple of seasons, you'd have to say the latter) would probably have to end up on the bench.

WeeMac might even be considered wide on the left, perhaps, though has shown himself not to be a natural goal scorer like Krishna.

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martinb wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

I think given how Ernie likes to play, I'd expect Kosta and Krishna to be wide forwards, with Finkler as a false 9. The alignment of the three midfielders in that type of formation would be interesting though - you'd think that one out of Roly or WeeMac (and based on the last couple of seasons, you'd have to say the latter) would probably have to end up on the bench.

WeeMac might even be considered wide on the left, perhaps, though has shown himself not to be a natural goal scorer like Krishna.

Yeah, potentially, but I think Ernie likes to have pace out wide, and that's not WeeMac's strength. Will be interesting to see if they look to bring in another quickish attacking player, or if they're happy with WeeMac as potential plan B in that formation. Given the pressing needs elsewhere in the team., you wouldn't think that getting another quick attacker would be top of the priority list.

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el grapadura wrote:

martinb wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

I think given how Ernie likes to play, I'd expect Kosta and Krishna to be wide forwards, with Finkler as a false 9. The alignment of the three midfielders in that type of formation would be interesting though - you'd think that one out of Roly or WeeMac (and based on the last couple of seasons, you'd have to say the latter) would probably have to end up on the bench.

WeeMac might even be considered wide on the left, perhaps, though has shown himself not to be a natural goal scorer like Krishna.

Yeah, potentially, but I think Ernie likes to have pace out wide, and that's not WeeMac's strength. Will be interesting to see if they look to bring in another quickish attacking player, or if they're happy with WeeMac as potential plan B in that formation. Given the pressing needs elsewhere in the team., you wouldn't think that getting another quick attacker would be top of the priority list.

I agree with that. While I was one of the critics of WeeMac's drop in form lately, I am prepared to cut him some slack and let him find his feet in a better quality team to the one we fielded in the 2015/16 season.  

While he is a decent player and a good bloke, he looked like someone handed too much responsibility last season who could not cope with it - both in his contribution upfront, and for his badly missed penalty.  Both he and Roly might lift their performance with Finkler and Kosta in the team.

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el grapadura wrote:

martinb wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

I think given how Ernie likes to play, I'd expect Kosta and Krishna to be wide forwards, with Finkler as a false 9. The alignment of the three midfielders in that type of formation would be interesting though - you'd think that one out of Roly or WeeMac (and based on the last couple of seasons, you'd have to say the latter) would probably have to end up on the bench.

WeeMac might even be considered wide on the left, perhaps, though has shown himself not to be a natural goal scorer like Krishna.

Yeah, potentially, but I think Ernie likes to have pace out wide, and that's not WeeMac's strength. Will be interesting to see if they look to bring in another quickish attacking player, or if they're happy with WeeMac as potential plan B in that formation. Given the pressing needs elsewhere in the team., you wouldn't think that getting another quick attacker would be top of the priority list.

There's the possibility that Finkler might not always be a 90 minute player and that WeeMac will be asked to put pressure on him, to keep him on his toes. Agree about his pace. He has done pretty well down the left recently, but unlikely to win a foot race in behind.

On the quick wing forwards: Kosta, Krishna  backups- Stevens(?), Rogerson and Powell? 

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martinb wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

martinb wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

I think given how Ernie likes to play, I'd expect Kosta and Krishna to be wide forwards, with Finkler as a false 9. The alignment of the three midfielders in that type of formation would be interesting though - you'd think that one out of Roly or WeeMac (and based on the last couple of seasons, you'd have to say the latter) would probably have to end up on the bench.

WeeMac might even be considered wide on the left, perhaps, though has shown himself not to be a natural goal scorer like Krishna.

Yeah, potentially, but I think Ernie likes to have pace out wide, and that's not WeeMac's strength. Will be interesting to see if they look to bring in another quickish attacking player, or if they're happy with WeeMac as potential plan B in that formation. Given the pressing needs elsewhere in the team., you wouldn't think that getting another quick attacker would be top of the priority list.

There's the possibility that Finkler might not always be a 90 minute player and that WeeMac will be asked to put pressure on him, to keep him on his toes. Agree about his pace. He has done pretty well down the left recently, but unlikely to win a foot race in behind.

On the quick wing forwards: Kosta, Krishna  backups- Stevens(?), Rogerson and Powell? 

Fenton?
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Weemac strikes me as a bit of a luxury player in that he's bloody good with quality around him, but without it, he's not quite of the calibre to pick the team up all by himself and make things happen.

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paulm wrote:

Weemac strikes me as a bit of a luxury player in that he's bloody good with quality around him, but without it, he's not quite of the calibre to pick the team up all by himself and make things happen.

My point exactly

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martinb wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

martinb wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

I think given how Ernie likes to play, I'd expect Kosta and Krishna to be wide forwards, with Finkler as a false 9. The alignment of the three midfielders in that type of formation would be interesting though - you'd think that one out of Roly or WeeMac (and based on the last couple of seasons, you'd have to say the latter) would probably have to end up on the bench.

WeeMac might even be considered wide on the left, perhaps, though has shown himself not to be a natural goal scorer like Krishna.

Yeah, potentially, but I think Ernie likes to have pace out wide, and that's not WeeMac's strength. Will be interesting to see if they look to bring in another quickish attacking player, or if they're happy with WeeMac as potential plan B in that formation. Given the pressing needs elsewhere in the team., you wouldn't think that getting another quick attacker would be top of the priority list.

There's the possibility that Finkler might not always be a 90 minute player and that WeeMac will be asked to put pressure on him, to keep him on his toes. Agree about his pace. He has done pretty well down the left recently, but unlikely to win a foot race in behind.

On the quick wing forwards: Kosta, Krishna  backups- Stevens(?), Rogerson and Powell? 

Fenton?

I think Fenton is lucky to have a contract after his last couple of seasons, to be honest. He's been mucked around, but also he hasn't hit his stride at any point.

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Agreed, but he's a much better winger/wide forward than he is a FB or CM

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I know that tough times made for tough choices, but Ernie's experiment at making a RB out of Fenton was truly an overreach.

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While i agree about Fenton i also think some of you are being a bit harsh. He was showing much promise in  doing what Ernie wanted from him then had that nasty shoulder injury and has had issues since then which seem to have seriously dented his confidence.

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paulm wrote:

Weemac strikes me as a bit of a luxury player in that he's bloody good with quality around him, but without it, he's not quite of the calibre to pick the team up all by himself and make things happen.

That sums up Finkler too, though.

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valeo wrote:

paulm wrote:

Weemac strikes me as a bit of a luxury player in that he's bloody good with quality around him, but without it, he's not quite of the calibre to pick the team up all by himself and make things happen.

That sums up Finkler too, though.

To be fair, that sums up pretty well any playmaker in the A League, Roly and to an extent Broich  go missing when things turn to shark all around them. There are not many that can turn a game around by themselves
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sthn.jeff wrote:

valeo wrote:

paulm wrote:

Weemac strikes me as a bit of a luxury player in that he's bloody good with quality around him, but without it, he's not quite of the calibre to pick the team up all by himself and make things happen.

That sums up Finkler too, though.

To be fair, that sums up pretty well any playmaker in the A League, Roly and to an extent Broich  go missing when things turn to shark all around them. There are not many that can turn a game around by themselves

Would you not agree that a game can be turned around by a solid defence though. Defence not letting the opposition through really boosts the confidence of the playmakers.

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Mainland FC wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

valeo wrote:

paulm wrote:

Weemac strikes me as a bit of a luxury player in that he's bloody good with quality around him, but without it, he's not quite of the calibre to pick the team up all by himself and make things happen.

That sums up Finkler too, though.

To be fair, that sums up pretty well any playmaker in the A League, Roly and to an extent Broich  go missing when things turn to shark all around them. There are not many that can turn a game around by themselves

Would you not agree that a game can be turned around by a solid defence though. Defence not letting the opposition through really boosts the confidence of the playmakers.

Goes without saying. 
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http://embeds.audioboom.com/publishing/playlist/v4... Phoenix's Kosta Barbarouses on the Daily Football Show

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Kosta on TV One "sports news". The whole item was based on him getting his hair styled, maybe a little portion about returning home to Welly. Anyway, great to see someone who's not an All Black having some air time.
No reference made to the famous Terry haircut.

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Kosta on TV One "sports news". The whole item was based on him getting his hair styled, maybe a little portion about returning home to Welly. Anyway, great to see someone who's not an All Black having some air time.
No reference made to the famous Terry haircut.

Also good, he was on the news for the ritht reasons and not like that other guy. It was a positive for the Nix.

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Kosta's form has been pants this season.  From what I've seen of him (every Nix game since the 0-1 losss to Sydney) he's played average at best.  

I feel it's time he was dropped to the bench.  

His current form definitely does not justify marquee status.

Any ideas why he's been so bad this season?

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