^^ This is true, plus Postacoglu saw something in him he could use, he takes an import spot there remember. I dont think he would have prospered at the Nix actually. Playing alongside Ifill is different to playing alongside Broich, more chance of a pass orthrough ball from Broich, or McKay, our play is so different to the Roar, and unless Ricki changes his style of coaching and play, then he would have been wasted still here
Love watching him at the Roar, best place for him
1 Barba, 2 Barba, 3 Barbarouses
The thing to remember though is that if Reinaldo wasn't injured and they hadn't had a delayed clearance on Solorzano, Kosta could be in the exactly same spot there that he was in here.Sure he's taken every chance (as we suspected he could) but luck is what has got him the chance to prove it.
Are you sure this is the whole story? Kosta was just incredibly lucky at the Roar, and incredibly unlucky here? Yeah right.
Sure the issues you mentioned were a factor, but are you suggesting Kosta was so good from the moment he started playing for the Roar? His goal-scoring record wasn't great in the early games, and he showed the inconsistency common to young players in the early part of the season. But Ange didn't give up on him or drop him from the squad the moment he made a mistake or two, allowed him to build confidence and is now enjoying the rewards of sticking with a good young player.
And JD, culdn't have said it better myself.
el grapadura2010-12-22 12:27:22
Boxey are you a cousin just like bringbacksmeltz?
Us wogs have to stick together
I do think that we could have handled Kosta better.
We did try, we loaned him to McArthur Rams after season 1 to get some game time in the NSWPL. However he only started 6 games, played 21 games and only 803min in 3 seasons. He already has twice as many minutes this season alone.
I suppose there are certain elements that have contributed to this, firstly there was no reserve team which I think has benefited Rojas greatly, not so much in his development but to show Ricki that he is up to playing and something that Kosta did not have to fall back on if he wasn't in the match day squad (also a reason he went to Brisbane was them having a youth team squad for him to play).
Injuries at Roar to Henrique, Reinaldo and delay in Solorzano did afford Kosta more game time than probably he and Ange expected.
So in summary, we could have done better but there were circumstances that ham-strung the club a bit and Kosta has had a bit of fortune to cement his spot at Roar.
We did try, we loaned him to McArthur Rams after season 1 to get some game time in the NSWPL. However he only started 6 games, played 21 games and only 803min in 3 seasons. He already has twice as many minutes this season alone.
I suppose there are certain elements that have contributed to this, firstly there was no reserve team which I think has benefited Rojas greatly, not so much in his development but to show Ricki that he is up to playing and something that Kosta did not have to fall back on if he wasn't in the match day squad (also a reason he went to Brisbane was them having a youth team squad for him to play).
Injuries at Roar to Henrique, Reinaldo and delay in Solorzano did afford Kosta more game time than probably he and Ange expected.
So in summary, we could have done better but there were circumstances that ham-strung the club a bit and Kosta has had a bit of fortune to cement his spot at Roar.
I do think that we could have handled Kosta better.
We did try, we loaned him to McArthur Rams after season 1 to get some game time in the NSWPL. However he only started 6 games, played 21 games and only 803min in 3 seasons. He already has twice as many minutes this season alone.
I suppose there are certain elements that have contributed to this, firstly there was no reserve team which I think has benefited Rojas greatly, not so much in his development but to show Ricki that he is up to playing and something that Kosta did not have to fall back on if he wasn't in the match day squad (also a reason he went to Brisbane was them having a youth team squad for him to play).
Injuries at Roar to Henrique, Reinaldo and delay in Solorzano did afford Kosta more game time than probably he and Ange expected.
So in summary, we could have done better but there were circumstances that ham-strung the club a bit and Kosta has had a bit of fortune to cement his spot at Roar.
We did try, we loaned him to McArthur Rams after season 1 to get some game time in the NSWPL. However he only started 6 games, played 21 games and only 803min in 3 seasons. He already has twice as many minutes this season alone.
I suppose there are certain elements that have contributed to this, firstly there was no reserve team which I think has benefited Rojas greatly, not so much in his development but to show Ricki that he is up to playing and something that Kosta did not have to fall back on if he wasn't in the match day squad (also a reason he went to Brisbane was them having a youth team squad for him to play).
Injuries at Roar to Henrique, Reinaldo and delay in Solorzano did afford Kosta more game time than probably he and Ange expected.
So in summary, we could have done better but there were circumstances that ham-strung the club a bit and Kosta has had a bit of fortune to cement his spot at Roar.
I think there is 2 points:
1. the lack of a reserve team is a cop out because that implies that he wouldn't be playing for the first team, which he has now proven he is good enough to do.
2. I don't think the key thing for him at QLD has been the opportunities because of injuries, over a 30 game season you will always get an opportunity. It's been that even when he hasn't performed, or has shown inconsistency, he has continued to get serious game time in the first team. Personel, playing style etc are all a factor but the key thing is he just didn't get the games. That's something that never looked like happening at the Phoenix and you'd have to say that Herbert has shown almost no faith in him.
Herbert either didn't see the talent that he has, saw the talent but wasn't able to coax it out of him or saw the talent but didn't have the skills as a coach to prepare a team to take advantage of it. All worry me.
Ricki is a very conservative coach. In some cases that is probably no bad thing but it has cost us Kosta and I hope that it doens't cost us Marco.
I also annoys me greatly that Ricki is being allowed to get away with the "he rejected our contract offer" line when questioned on this issue by the media. As I have said earlier, it is a cop-out.
I feel very very strongly about this issue because I have seen him play in Wellington since he was about 14 and he may never have gotten a chance in the professional game if it wasn't for the Phoenix, it's exactly how you hope the pathway should work. Except for the bit about him leaving after getting no opportunities and then dominating elsewhere...
Said my piece, JD out...(for now)
source: http://www.a-league.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=37740
Mossy on Kosta
Moss knows Kosta dangers
Thursday, 23 December 2010
by Vince Rugari, Sportal
Gold Coast United gloveman Glen Moss says he is not the least bit surprised by the sudden rise of fellow Kiwi and Brisbane sharpshooter Kosta Barbarouses.
Barbarouses has been a revelation since moving across the ditch from his hometown club Wellington Phoenix, headhunted by Brisbane supremo Ange Postecoglou as a perfect fit for his plans of Hyundai A-League domination.
Few expected the 20-year-old to deliver such potency in an orange shirt, which has guided him to the top of the Roar's goalscoring charts and second in the league with nine goals his breakout year - but Moss, a former teammate at the Phoenix and the New Zealand national team and the man who will be tasked with limiting his influence on Boxing Day, was well aware.
"I can honestly say that's no surprise to me," he said. "I've known Kosta for a couple of years and it was only a matter of time before he broke the shackles and now he's banging in goals for fun. I'm pleased to see the kid doing well but hopefully he doesn't do that well Sunday."
Mossy on Kosta
Moss knows Kosta dangers
Thursday, 23 December 2010
by Vince Rugari, Sportal
Gold Coast United gloveman Glen Moss says he is not the least bit surprised by the sudden rise of fellow Kiwi and Brisbane sharpshooter Kosta Barbarouses.
Barbarouses has been a revelation since moving across the ditch from his hometown club Wellington Phoenix, headhunted by Brisbane supremo Ange Postecoglou as a perfect fit for his plans of Hyundai A-League domination.
Few expected the 20-year-old to deliver such potency in an orange shirt, which has guided him to the top of the Roar's goalscoring charts and second in the league with nine goals his breakout year - but Moss, a former teammate at the Phoenix and the New Zealand national team and the man who will be tasked with limiting his influence on Boxing Day, was well aware.
"I can honestly say that's no surprise to me," he said. "I've known Kosta for a couple of years and it was only a matter of time before he broke the shackles and now he's banging in goals for fun. I'm pleased to see the kid doing well but hopefully he doesn't do that well Sunday."
source: http://www.a-league.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=37740
Mossy on Kosta
Moss knows Kosta dangers
Thursday, 23 December 2010
by Vince Rugari, Sportal
Gold Coast United gloveman Glen Moss says he is not the least bit surprised by the sudden rise of fellow Kiwi and Brisbane sharpshooter Kosta Barbarouses.
Barbarouses has been a revelation since moving across the ditch from his hometown club Wellington Phoenix, headhunted by Brisbane supremo Ange Postecoglou as a perfect fit for his plans of Hyundai A-League domination.
Few expected the 20-year-old to deliver such potency in an orange shirt, which has guided him to the top of the Roar's goalscoring charts and second in the league with nine goals his breakout year - but Moss, a former teammate at the Phoenix and the New Zealand national team and the man who will be tasked with limiting his influence on Boxing Day, was well aware.
"I can honestly say that's no surprise to me," he said. "I've known Kosta for a couple of years and it was only a matter of time before he broke the shackles and now he's banging in goals for fun. I'm pleased to see the kid doing well but hopefully he doesn't do that well Sunday."
Mossy on Kosta
Moss knows Kosta dangers
Thursday, 23 December 2010
by Vince Rugari, Sportal
Gold Coast United gloveman Glen Moss says he is not the least bit surprised by the sudden rise of fellow Kiwi and Brisbane sharpshooter Kosta Barbarouses.
Barbarouses has been a revelation since moving across the ditch from his hometown club Wellington Phoenix, headhunted by Brisbane supremo Ange Postecoglou as a perfect fit for his plans of Hyundai A-League domination.
Few expected the 20-year-old to deliver such potency in an orange shirt, which has guided him to the top of the Roar's goalscoring charts and second in the league with nine goals his breakout year - but Moss, a former teammate at the Phoenix and the New Zealand national team and the man who will be tasked with limiting his influence on Boxing Day, was well aware.
"I can honestly say that's no surprise to me," he said. "I've known Kosta for a couple of years and it was only a matter of time before he broke the shackles and now he's banging in goals for fun. I'm pleased to see the kid doing well but hopefully he doesn't do that well Sunday."
I could'nt agree more.
Perhaps the other doubters on the forum might now believe that Kosta was always good enough.
I do think that we could have handled Kosta better.
We did try, we loaned him to McArthur Rams after season 1 to get some game time in the NSWPL. However he only started 6 games, played 21 games and only 803min in 3 seasons. He already has twice as many minutes this season alone.
I suppose there are certain elements that have contributed to this, firstly there was no reserve team which I think has benefited Rojas greatly, not so much in his development but to show Ricki that he is up to playing and something that Kosta did not have to fall back on if he wasn't in the match day squad (also a reason he went to Brisbane was them having a youth team squad for him to play).
Injuries at Roar to Henrique, Reinaldo and delay in Solorzano did afford Kosta more game time than probably he and Ange expected.
So in summary, we could have done better but there were circumstances that ham-strung the club a bit and Kosta has had a bit of fortune to cement his spot at Roar.
We did try, we loaned him to McArthur Rams after season 1 to get some game time in the NSWPL. However he only started 6 games, played 21 games and only 803min in 3 seasons. He already has twice as many minutes this season alone.
I suppose there are certain elements that have contributed to this, firstly there was no reserve team which I think has benefited Rojas greatly, not so much in his development but to show Ricki that he is up to playing and something that Kosta did not have to fall back on if he wasn't in the match day squad (also a reason he went to Brisbane was them having a youth team squad for him to play).
Injuries at Roar to Henrique, Reinaldo and delay in Solorzano did afford Kosta more game time than probably he and Ange expected.
So in summary, we could have done better but there were circumstances that ham-strung the club a bit and Kosta has had a bit of fortune to cement his spot at Roar.
I think there is 2 points:
1. the lack of a reserve team is a cop out because that implies that he wouldn't be playing for the first team, which he has now proven he is good enough to do.
Can't agree with this at all......think about it, we had Kosta as a striker, he was competing for first team places against the likes of Smeltz, greenacre, Ifill, etc.....even now Ricki has a tendancy to play just one up front which falls tio the best striker in the team, either Ifill of Greenie this season - without any game time, ie Kosta was seen initially as a back up to the two 1st team strijker how does he prove that he is ready to play - on the training pitch???? This season Kosta has simply benefited from getting regular gametime, he always looked good when he played for us, but his chances were far and few between.....so no reserve team hurt him big time...he's gotten first team opps due to the Roar injurys. He's taken his chances and now getting regular starts is dominating.
He was dropped 2 games after winning MOM for us wasnt he?
Boxey are you a cousin just like bringbacksmeltz?
Forgive me for wanting to see young kiwi players with pace and talent develop so that maybe one day the AWs can move past long balls and 1-1 draws
tv1 and tv3 both mentioned Kosta in their China/Japan friendly stories.
Andrew Gourdie described him as a Wellington reject, and Steven Stuart describes him as a guy who turned his back on the Wellington Phoenix.
I wouldn't think of him as a reject at all. I'd be more than happy to see him get a run and judging by Ricki's cheeky comment 'lets see if his name comes up', I'm sure we will.
Andrew Gourdie described him as a Wellington reject, and Steven Stuart describes him as a guy who turned his back on the Wellington Phoenix.
I wouldn't think of him as a reject at all. I'd be more than happy to see him get a run and judging by Ricki's cheeky comment 'lets see if his name comes up', I'm sure we will.
I wouldn't think of him as a reject at all. I'd be more than happy to see him get a run and judging by Ricki's cheeky comment 'lets see if his name comes up', I'm sure we will.
I thought that was really disrespectful. The guy is doing really well and should be encouraged and praised
What part of 'he's playing great' and "he's playing really well"' isn't praise JD?
Herbert really just winds me up at the moment. All of this mystery, these attempts to elevate himself above everyone else in the country really REALLY annoys me. WHy can't he just say "he's playing very well, clearly he's going to be part of the future for the All Whites and he's a strong chance of selection." All this stuff about is he going to be selected, isn't he, you'll all have to wait and see...just grinds my gears!
sounding pretty bitter there JD
to me it sounds more that ricki's acting cheeky because Kosta will definitely be named in the side, and he's probably already told him as much
either way its not that big of a deal, think you're just a ricki-hater these days
yep that's how I took it as well paulm re Kosta being in the squad.
His team made tvnz's list of top 10 breakthroughs.
http://tvnz.co.nz/othersports-news/top-10-breakthroughs-3985474
Brisbane Roar
Coming off their worst ever finish (second to last) in the A-League after being hindered by injuries and a coach sacked for drink-driving, the Roar have recovered to become competition frontrunners for 2010/11.
They sit ten points clear of their next closest rivals Adelaide with a goal differential of 23. It may pain many Phoenix fans to note one of the keys to Brisbane's resurgence has been former Wellington striker Kosta Barbarouses. He left the Phoenix due to a lack of opportunity and is the second highest goal scorer in the competition with nine (two of which came against his old club).
It seems the only thing left for the Roar to complete their turnaround is for them to claim an elusive first A-League title.
His team made tvnz's list of top 10 breakthroughs.
http://tvnz.co.nz/othersports-news/top-10-breakthroughs-3985474
Brisbane Roar
Coming off their worst ever finish (second to last) in the A-League after being hindered by injuries and a coach sacked for drink-driving, the Roar have recovered to become competition frontrunners for 2010/11.
They sit ten points clear of their next closest rivals Adelaide with a goal differential of 23. It may pain many Phoenix fans to note one of the keys to Brisbane's resurgence has been former Wellington striker Kosta Barbarouses. He left the Phoenix due to a lack of opportunity and is the second highest goal scorer in the competition with nine (two of which came against his old club).
It seems the only thing left for the Roar to complete their turnaround is for them to claim an elusive first A-League title.
Idea for a song: Baby Come back - Player...
"Kosta come back, any kind of fan could see
There was something in everything about you
Kosta come back, you can blame it on Ricki
He was wrong, and we just can't live without you.. x2"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYsKDaQIX54
"Kosta come back, any kind of fan could see
There was something in everything about you
Kosta come back, you can blame it on Ricki
He was wrong, and we just can't live without you.. x2"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYsKDaQIX54
^^ like
http://tvnz.co.nz/football-news/roar-boast-quality-3985646
some quotes from Kosta
"We are pretty confident we can do a good job - there is only a couple of players in the Gold Coast side that has some quality," he said.
"But I think we have quality all over the pitch and we should be able to deal with them alright."
http://tvnz.co.nz/football-news/roar-boast-quality-3985646
some quotes from Kosta
"We are pretty confident we can do a good job - there is only a couple of players in the Gold Coast side that has some quality," he said.
"But I think we have quality all over the pitch and we should be able to deal with them alright."
More quotes from/about Kosta
"Barbarouses has emerged as one of the A-League's great strike weapons, moving to equal second in league goal scoring with nine, one behind Melbourne's Robbie Kruse.
Remarkably, he couldn't get a regular starting berth with ex-club Wellington.
"I have come from playing not much football in Wellington - (Roar coach) Ange (Postecoglou) and the rest of the staff have put a lot of belief in me," he said.
"Their faith and my hard work is starting to pay off."
If Kosta keeps going the way he is he'll have a good chance of been picked up overseas.
His finishing is excellent at the moment.
You might want to go back and review last nights game...
Missed last nights one...
I read that he scored and won a penalty though... were these the highlights of an otherwise poor display.
He was pretty sharp the week before though.
They should have won by 10 but Moss together with some awful finishing left them with a draw.
Much debate about the penalty as well.
Much debate about the penalty as well.
looked like Kosta fouled him about 3 times before the guy hand tripped him...
Interesting 4 - 4- 2 article on the golden boot, Kosta apparently playing to his potential whilst rival Kruse still has room to improve.
How did they come up with that??
Kosta is having his first real year as a pro ( in terms of getting decent game time) where as Kruse has consistantly played for the past three years.
Reading 442 and you expect balanced comment?
New to it then?
New to it then?
Interesting comments from the Roar coach after the game on Sunday.
Asked why he signed an unknown Kosta from Wellington.
Anmswer- As you guys know I was a youth coach. The first time I saw him play I could see the potential.
Asked why he signed an unknown Kosta from Wellington.
Anmswer- As you guys know I was a youth coach. The first time I saw him play I could see the potential.
An interesting article about Kosta:
http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=38279
Kiwi Kosta eyes Australia Day victory
Thursday, 20 January 2011 by Michelle Tobin
Kosta Barbarouses may be a proud and patriotic New Zealander but the young striker has his sights firmly set on three points when Brisbane Roar take on his former club Wellington Phoenix next week on Australia Day.
The 20-year-old was born and bred in the city of Wellington before his move across the Tasman prior to the current Hyundai A-League season and has played for New Zealand at Under 15, Under 17, Under 20 and Under 23 levels.
His representative duties have included wearing the captain�s armband in New Zealand's U17 FIFA World Cup campaign in 2007 � an honour he describes as his best personal football moment to date.
With the New Zealand Football Federation already confirming seven fixtures over the course of the year, Barbarouses also has high hopes of adding to his one All Whites cap in 2011 and sees Wednesday�s fixture as a prime opportunity to showcase his talents in front of Phoenix and All Whites boss Ricki Herbert.
�I didn�t even know next Wednesday was Australia Day to be honest!� Barbarouses said with a laugh after training.
�It will be good to play Wellington again, we�ve beaten them twice this year and it was especially good to go home and beat them as well.
�Hopefully we can make it three in a row because we really need the three points as well.
�I personally prefer the mid-week games, getting as many games under my belt as I can.
�I don�t know about the rest of the boys but as a young player, it�s been great to get so many games in such a short amount of time.�
Barbarouses had to make do with limited game time throughout his three seasons as a Phoenix player, making 21 appearances, mostly off the substitutes� bench, and scoring just twice in the process.
However, this Hyundai A-League season has been a different story for the young striker, flourishing within the new style of football adopted by coach Ange Postecoglou with confidence levels at an all-time high following the Brisbane mentor�s faith in signing him to a multi-year deal prior to season start.
A telling indication of his talent, Barbarouses has scored 10 goals so far this season, joint second in the competition behind Adelaide United hitman Sergio van Dijk with fellow youngster Robbie Kruse, Central Coast�s Matt Simon and teammate Jean Carlos Solorzano.
With that in mind, the New Zealander hasn�t found the back of the net in his past three outings but has an enviable record against his former employers, scoring against them in both encounters this season.
�I haven�t scored in a few games now but I don�t really care who I score against, I just think it�s time for me to get back on the scoresheet,� he said.
�We�ve been working on things that we can improve on from our past few games, like our shape.
�We�ve had one tough session this week and we�ve got another one tomorrow so we�ll be primed for Wednesday.�
After the severe weather conditions over the past week in south-east Queensland, Brisbane Roar confirmed yesterday that the team�s next two Hyundai A-League fixtures would take place down at Skilled Park, Robina.
While admitting the change of venue was an obstacle, Barbarouses pointed out the team had overcome greater challenges during their rise to the top of the Hyundai A-League ladder.
�We�ve been very good at home, haven�t lost there yet this season,� he said.
�It�ll be a bit of a loss because everyone in the team loves playing at Suncorp.
�Obviously it�s out of our hands and there�s nothing we can do about to but to be honest, we�ve probably had worse thrown at us this year so we�ll move on with it and do our best.�
Kiwi Kosta eyes Australia Day victory
Thursday, 20 January 2011 by Michelle Tobin
Kosta Barbarouses may be a proud and patriotic New Zealander but the young striker has his sights firmly set on three points when Brisbane Roar take on his former club Wellington Phoenix next week on Australia Day.
The 20-year-old was born and bred in the city of Wellington before his move across the Tasman prior to the current Hyundai A-League season and has played for New Zealand at Under 15, Under 17, Under 20 and Under 23 levels.
His representative duties have included wearing the captain�s armband in New Zealand's U17 FIFA World Cup campaign in 2007 � an honour he describes as his best personal football moment to date.
With the New Zealand Football Federation already confirming seven fixtures over the course of the year, Barbarouses also has high hopes of adding to his one All Whites cap in 2011 and sees Wednesday�s fixture as a prime opportunity to showcase his talents in front of Phoenix and All Whites boss Ricki Herbert.
�I didn�t even know next Wednesday was Australia Day to be honest!� Barbarouses said with a laugh after training.
�It will be good to play Wellington again, we�ve beaten them twice this year and it was especially good to go home and beat them as well.
�Hopefully we can make it three in a row because we really need the three points as well.
�I personally prefer the mid-week games, getting as many games under my belt as I can.
�I don�t know about the rest of the boys but as a young player, it�s been great to get so many games in such a short amount of time.�
Barbarouses had to make do with limited game time throughout his three seasons as a Phoenix player, making 21 appearances, mostly off the substitutes� bench, and scoring just twice in the process.
However, this Hyundai A-League season has been a different story for the young striker, flourishing within the new style of football adopted by coach Ange Postecoglou with confidence levels at an all-time high following the Brisbane mentor�s faith in signing him to a multi-year deal prior to season start.
A telling indication of his talent, Barbarouses has scored 10 goals so far this season, joint second in the competition behind Adelaide United hitman Sergio van Dijk with fellow youngster Robbie Kruse, Central Coast�s Matt Simon and teammate Jean Carlos Solorzano.
With that in mind, the New Zealander hasn�t found the back of the net in his past three outings but has an enviable record against his former employers, scoring against them in both encounters this season.
�I haven�t scored in a few games now but I don�t really care who I score against, I just think it�s time for me to get back on the scoresheet,� he said.
�We�ve been working on things that we can improve on from our past few games, like our shape.
�We�ve had one tough session this week and we�ve got another one tomorrow so we�ll be primed for Wednesday.�
After the severe weather conditions over the past week in south-east Queensland, Brisbane Roar confirmed yesterday that the team�s next two Hyundai A-League fixtures would take place down at Skilled Park, Robina.
While admitting the change of venue was an obstacle, Barbarouses pointed out the team had overcome greater challenges during their rise to the top of the Hyundai A-League ladder.
�We�ve been very good at home, haven�t lost there yet this season,� he said.
�It�ll be a bit of a loss because everyone in the team loves playing at Suncorp.
�Obviously it�s out of our hands and there�s nothing we can do about to but to be honest, we�ve probably had worse thrown at us this year so we�ll move on with it and do our best.�
"With the New Zealand Football Federation already confirming seven fixtures over the course of the year, "
Can anyone expand on this?
Can anyone expand on this?
Would take much notice of that. They do call us the NZFF.
Huge win for Kosta and first A league title:
Congratulations Kosta on being the A-league champion.
Soccer: Barbarouses eyes long career
If Kruse has been picked up by second tier german side, would we expect for Kosta to be looking at something similar at the end of possibly next year?
Surely here of the Dutch league should be his aim?
Surely here of the Dutch league should be his aim?