League table

When was the last time the Kniggits were within 11 Points of the top after 20 rounds?

Is this going to be our biggest game of the year?
CCM have been shiite in their last three games...we have'nt been much better. Can we get at least a point and hope that Newcastle roll Perth.

Funny thing is that the Phoenix are generally well thought of in OZ, even if we finish last the Aussies won't give us too much stick.

In NZ though there are heaps of people(especially in the press) who will dump on us big time if we come last....I can see the headlines now "Phoenix no better than the Knights"...
That would be grossly UNFAIR

yeh, we're one point better!

Bottom is no majors, we are still way better than the nightz or kingz ever were.

We know that, but does Deaker, etc know that?

no, Deaker etc don't know sh*t

in my opinion Perth cannot beat the Jets when hard news favorite player is playing as Perth's keeper wont be able to handle his set pieces etc.

We'd still need at least a point though.

Jose's Dog2008-01-14 12:35:10

Yeah I'm pretty gutted.

Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Melbourne Victory 21 14 3 4 41 20 +21 45 Adelaide United 21 10 3 8 32 27 +5 33 Newcastle Jets 21 8 6 7 32 30 +2 30 Sydney FC 21 8 8 5 29 19 +10 29 Queensland Roar 21 8 5 8 25 27 -2 29 Central Coast Mariners 21 6 6 9 22 26 -4 24 Perth Glory 21 5 5 11 24 30 -6 20 New Zealand Knights 21 5 4 12 13 39 -26 19   2005/06 Season   Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Adelaide United 21 13 4 4 33 25 8 43 Sydney FC 21 10 6 5 35 28 7 36 Central Coast Mariners 21 8 8 5 35 28 7 32 Newcastle Jets 21 9 4 8 27 29 -2 31 Perth Glory 21 8 5 8 34 29 5 29 Queensland Roar 21 7 7 7 27 22 5 28 Melbourne Victory 21 7 5 9 26 24 2 26 New Zealand Knights 21 1 3 17 15 47 -32 6  

and our goal difference is not as bad as the knights had.

Why do people bother comparing our performance with the Knights? Are you seriously implying that you're happy because the Phoenix are doing better than them? Any team would look good compared to them. Way to set the bar high.

Trying to be positive here, the Phoenix attack has been streets ahead of the Knights.We are currently on 25 goals with a game to go...the knights only managed 12 all season.At least we have tried to play attacking football. The defense looks similar we have conceded 35 goals so far the knights let in 39.

I think we kinda have to run with the comparisons to the knightz and kingz, all of the nz aporting community is compairing us - attempting to say we are the same, we have to fight back with evidence to prove the contrary - as above - we've won mroe, scored more, finished on more points, sure we are 8th and that sux but at the end of the day we were competitive and should have won a lot more - but lost due to immature errors. With time and experieince to build a stronger team we will be way better.

 So after a season of great promise we are likely to end with the wooden spoon just like the Auckland teams before us.  This should be a reality check for the Phoenix. We need a strengthened playing roster another quality goal scorer, another play making  midfielder and another quality central defender.
Who has to go? In my book Old, O'Dor, Coveny and probably Elrich although he possibly gets one more season to prove himself.
Talk of us scraping into the top four five or so games ago has proved to be hype. Last place has to be a failure and I'm sure the goals set by the club,coaching and playing staff must have at the very least included avoiding the wooden spoon. I for one will be very disappointed with a wooden spoon finish. The Phoenix have not risen very far above the ashes from which they were born. At least up is the only place to go from here or is it ? just look what happened to the knights.

our squad definitely needs some work - i think that's the general consensus on this forum

wooden spoon hurts

So who would you axe and has our team failed this year?

FOR MADHOUSE.  Stevo2008-01-15 01:05:54

No one wants to finish last, but the differance between this season and last season is huge.Forget about the Auckland/Wellington thing(if you can). The coach is far better, the players are way above the Kings and a least most times there is not a huge gap between the sides as there was last season.There have been very few thrashings and there are three or four players who are as good as anyone else in the league.
The main problem is that most of the players just don't have that football brain and also first touch. However, there is enough for me to think that the Nix can do well,although I feel that too many people expected far too much. For me, the most encouraging thing is that the support is there, and that is something Auckland never had.One has to be realistic about ones team.

Well said Leggy.

iI agree with a lot of what you say but I still think the true reflection of our suad is closer to the bottom of the leauge than the top. Still I would have been happy with seventh and now im lowering my sights for next year Ill be happy with 6th in season two.

you gotta aim high to finish high, target 6th and we will finish last, play for top four and we may get mid table or better!

"Aim for the moon - because if you miss, you'll still be among the stars"


....unless you f**k up and burn up on re-entry

Here's hoping to a playoff match at the Ring of Fire next season!