Any update on the injury. Any other players take any knocks that we need to worry about?
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scan tomorrow apparently, someone said on one of the other threads
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yea, tony p on the total football show
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looked pretty nasty, could be out for a few weeks I'd guess.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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be good to get an update from that scan. I read somewhere Ricki saying it didn't look too serious
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LIA OUT FOR SEASON
Wellington
VINCE LIA�S wretched run of injury has continued, with the defender/midfielder�s Hyundai A-League 2008/09 season over before it even began.
Lia wrenched his left leg in a tackle while playing at right back for the Phoenix in their 2008 Pre-Season Cup win against the Central Coast Mariners in Wellington on Sunday. Initial hopes that the injury might not be serious were dashed by a scan on Tuesday that revealed Lia had torn the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee � an injury that would rule him out of football for up to nine months. He will undergo surgery in the coming weeks.
Phoenix head coach Ricki Herbert said the 23-year-old was gutted by the season-ending injury blow.
�Vinnie had worked extremely hard during the pre-season and was probably in the best condition he�s ever been. To miss the whole season is devastating for the young guy.
�It wasn�t a nasty tackle or challenge; it [the injury] was just one of those freak accidents.�
Herbert had transplanted Lia from his usual midfield role into right back � a troublesome position but one that the Phoenix boss believed Lia had the ability to excel in.
�He�s a great athlete with terrific ability and potential. I had very high hopes for Vinnie playing at right back for us this season and he was certainly very excited about the challenge.�
Lia, who recently extended his contract with the Phoenix for another two years, has had horrible luck with injury. He missed a large part of the Phoenix�s inaugural season in Hyundai A-League with a serious thigh problem but showed his immense potential once fit.
�The club is right behind Vinnie and he�ll be receiving the best care,� Herbert said. �We�ll be working very hard to get him back to full fitness as soon as possible because he�s an integral part of the squad and of the club�s plans for the future.�
The loss of Lia has been alleviated somewhat by the Phoenix�s recent signing of experienced international defender David Mulligan. However, Lia�s season-ending injury means the Wellington club is able to now pursue the recruitment of a long-term injury replacement player.
Phoenix chief executive Tony Pignata said that process was already under way.
�We�ve got a couple of players coming next week to trial, so we�ll assess how they go and how they fit into the squad. Fortunately, we�ve still got some time to assess our options.�
The Phoenix�s next match is against the Queensland Roar in a 2008 Pre-Season Cup tie at Stockland Park on the Sunshine Coast on Sunday.
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Gutted, thought he was making huge improvements in his games, I guess Mulligan will have to work extra hard.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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That's bad news alright. Lets hope he recovers sooner than expected.
Do injury replacement players come under the salary cap? From memory I don't think they do but not 100% on this one.
It'll be interesting to see who comes in to replace him. Is there any need in it being a defender now that we have got Mulligan (with Christie as cover should he get injured/suspended). We could try out Jeremy Brockie or another up and coming Kiwi from the NZFC.
loyalgunner2008-07-23 15:40:28
Do injury replacement players come under the salary cap? From memory I don't think they do but not 100% on this one.
It'll be interesting to see who comes in to replace him. Is there any need in it being a defender now that we have got Mulligan (with Christie as cover should he get injured/suspended). We could try out Jeremy Brockie or another up and coming Kiwi from the NZFC.
loyalgunner2008-07-23 15:40:28
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Terrible luck for him. Missing the season is harsh, best wishes for his recovery.
The A-league just changed the rules for injury replacements didn't they?
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Damn that sucks, must be terrible to be injured in the first game of pre-season and then have to sit out and just watch for the whole rest of the league. We should get him a seat in the Fever Zone.
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Changed them for everyone with a youth squad 
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bugger, i was hoping the fact that he walked/limped off indicated that it wasn't too serious - so much for that optimism
vinnie seems a real likeable lad and the few times I've been at training he's always been in the thick of the action both on the park and having a laugh off it
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All the best with your recovery Vince!
I reckon we've got the nickname "Invincible" lined up for you when you next stride onto the pitch.
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bloody hell, thats a real shame. makes the mulligan signing look even better.
from my viewing of training and pre season games it seems like sigmund is their other option? gutted for vince though, thats a real blow for him.
from my viewing of training and pre season games it seems like sigmund is their other option? gutted for vince though, thats a real blow for him.
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Anyone has any idea who the two triallists Tony P mentioned in the article might be?
I'm guessing prob guys from Oz state leagues, anyone know anything more?
I'm guessing prob guys from Oz state leagues, anyone know anything more?
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Changed them for everyone with a youth squad
Do you know exactlty how that will work for us?
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I wonder who the new players coming to trial are.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
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Jeremy Brockie
Nuno Gomes
Diego Forlan..... I hope
Nuno Gomes
Diego Forlan..... I hope
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Terrible news for poor Lia. Thats a nasty injury!
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I'm guessing prob guys from Oz state leagues, anyone know anything more?
It's intriguing as from what I keep hearing decent right backs are as rare in Aus as they are here.
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Nuno Gomes
Hell no.
Impossible, I know, but he is a class player.
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Wow thats a shock! 
I was not at the game but people told me it didnt look that bad
I was not at the game but people told me it didnt look that bad
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I'm guessing prob guys from Oz state leagues, anyone know anything more?
It's intriguing as from what I keep hearing decent right backs are as rare in Aus as they are here.
Well, if they can't find any over there, I'm available...
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Gutting news - really feel bad for Vinnie, he's come across as a great bloke every time I've met him. Fingers crossed for a speedy and effective recovery.
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oh that's terrible. Didn't seem too bad from the stands when he walked off but he could tell something was wrong when he went down.
Hope for a speedy recovery and come on Mully
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I'm guessing prob guys from Oz state leagues, anyone know anything more?
It's intriguing as from what I keep hearing decent right backs are as rare in Aus as they are here.
If Herbert has brains he'll go for "Better than Andy, not as good as Joe" if SFC don't pick him up.
Apart from that - nothing around.
Though maybe Ricky will want a midfielder?
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someone give daniel alves a call, or maybe sergio ramos.
by the way, nuno gomes is an absolutely brilliant player
You know we belong together...
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If Herbert has brains he'll go for "Better than Andy, not as good as Joe" if SFC don't pick him up.
Apart from that - nothing around.
Though maybe Ricky will want a midfielder?
Apart from that - nothing around.
Though maybe Ricky will want a midfielder?
Waitakere reject... good player, but he's more left sided than right though.
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I'm guessing prob guys from Oz state leagues, anyone know anything more?
It's intriguing as from what I keep hearing decent right backs are as rare in Aus as they are here.
If Herbert has brains he'll go for "Better than Andy, not as good as Joe" if SFC don't pick him up.
Apart from that - nothing around.
Though maybe Ricky will want a midfielder?
o.k. - yeah Duncan's a good kiwi lad, but getting on it bit though 
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You train your arse off for the last 4 months - get as fit as you've ever been and then, in the first serious pre-season game, bang - you're out for the season.
I really feel for the guy.
I like the way the club has said it will stand behind him 100% and support him through the recovery process - I love the way we look after our own.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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Damn, what a blow for Vinnie. Is there any chance we as the Yellow Fever could send him a big combined get well soon card and show him how much we have appreciated what he has given to our side so far?
I thought his efforts in the run in to the end of last season were one of the pleasant surprises of the year, particularly his piece of skill that set up Smeltz' seventh goal of the season vs Perth and of course his rocket of an equalizer against Melbourne.
I thought his efforts in the run in to the end of last season were one of the pleasant surprises of the year, particularly his piece of skill that set up Smeltz' seventh goal of the season vs Perth and of course his rocket of an equalizer against Melbourne.
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Not sure of the paycut as an injured player in the A-league. It depends on A-league rules and club contract but there is usually something like a paycut down to 85% of what it would have been and then the other 15% is covered by player insurance. It's depends on what insurance package that was chosen too and what insurance group. Well something like that is usually done. Not sure of whether it is done like that today but I'm going off my old player plans years ago at the top of my head.
The whole thing sucks for the player because now he has to through a course of different training exercises to keep the rest of the body fit and then a course of rebuilding the left leg muscle after the paster comes off. Nine months is usually ideal to build the leg to match his other leg for the elite player, a couple of month before beforehand he will slowly be playing some training games (not all) at practice but everyone has to be 100% certain that he is ready and not before as the knee will never quite be the same and that his leg muscles are fully developed to compensate for the weakness in the joint.
Yeah it stinks, because many players which are usually ultra fit with well developed muscle blows out their joints because they have been doing more than they have ever done muscle development wise and try that little special in which the body kinetic movement was not design for and then an awkward twist is the result. So Michael Owen and I knows how he feels because we been through those stages. Watching from the sideline and not playing stinks big time.AllWhitebelievr2008-07-23 17:14:53
The whole thing sucks for the player because now he has to through a course of different training exercises to keep the rest of the body fit and then a course of rebuilding the left leg muscle after the paster comes off. Nine months is usually ideal to build the leg to match his other leg for the elite player, a couple of month before beforehand he will slowly be playing some training games (not all) at practice but everyone has to be 100% certain that he is ready and not before as the knee will never quite be the same and that his leg muscles are fully developed to compensate for the weakness in the joint.
Yeah it stinks, because many players which are usually ultra fit with well developed muscle blows out their joints because they have been doing more than they have ever done muscle development wise and try that little special in which the body kinetic movement was not design for and then an awkward twist is the result. So Michael Owen and I knows how he feels because we been through those stages. Watching from the sideline and not playing stinks big time.AllWhitebelievr2008-07-23 17:14:53
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Anyone who's ever had an injury that kept them out of the game for a good chunk of time knows how horrible and frustrating it is.
I'm sure Lia feels absolutely awful now, but there's nothing to be done now other thn start the long process to recovery. Wish him all the best and hope that the injury doesn't have any adverse impact on his future career.
I'm sure Lia feels absolutely awful now, but there's nothing to be done now other thn start the long process to recovery. Wish him all the best and hope that the injury doesn't have any adverse impact on his future career.
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If Herbert has brains he'll go for "Better than Andy, not as good as Joe" if SFC don't pick him up.
Apart from that - nothing around.
Though maybe Ricky will want a midfielder?
Apart from that - nothing around.
Though maybe Ricky will want a midfielder?
Waitakere reject... good player, but he's more left sided than right though.
Not really. Technically right-footed, plus plays right-back for Olympic (played LB last year).
Better than anyone else going around.
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hope Vinnie comes back better than ever!!!!
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