Wellington Phoenix Men

Match 23 vs Western United | Sat 22nd May | 4:05pm | ROF

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almost 5 years ago
Marto
The biggest chance waster is Ball. He should have scored about 3 tonight.
 Ball has a great work rate but his finishing is barely a step above Sotirio's
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almost 5 years ago
billyspleen75
Marto
The biggest chance waster is Ball. He should have scored about 3 tonight.
 Ball has a great work rate but his finishing is barely a step above Sotirio's
That's not really true though. Ball scores about 1 in every 4 games, Sotirio 1 in 6. He's a far more valuable player in every respect.
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almost 5 years ago
Someone fill us in on Ben Old? 
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almost 5 years ago
Old is the younger Ben?


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almost 5 years ago
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billyspleen75
Marto
The biggest chance waster is Ball. He should have scored about 3 tonight.
 Ball has a great work rate but his finishing is barely a step above Sotirio's
That's not really true though. Ball scores about 1 in every 4 games, Sotirio 1 in 6. He's a far more valuable player in every respect.
That's a worthless stat for the conversation.
At least give us the mins per goal stat.

But this is an observation based on watching the chances they get and the quality of their finishing.
Last season Ball scored 2 or 3 flukey tap ins that were fairly poor strikes.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Ball. But his finishing isn't that great.
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almost 5 years ago
Finish strong boys!


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almost 5 years ago
Another goal please!


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almost 5 years ago
"Snakes didn't get any" - Doloras jr

Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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almost 5 years ago · edited almost 5 years ago · History
No card for that? Oh fudge off Elder. Total bullshark card
Put a couple in. Break them if we’re guna get carded when Uzkok and co don’t get any.


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almost 5 years ago · edited almost 5 years ago · History
billyspleen75
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Marto
The biggest chance waster is Ball. He should have scored about 3 tonight.
 Ball has a great work rate but his finishing is barely a step above Sotirio's
That's not really true though. Ball scores about 1 in every 4 games, Sotirio 1 in 6. He's a far more valuable player in every respect.
That's a worthless stat for the conversation.
At least give us the mins per goal stat.

But this is an observation based on watching the chances they get and the quality of their finishing.
Last season Ball scored 2 or 3 flukey tap ins that were fairly poor strikes.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Ball. But his finishing isn't that great.
both are bang average finishers but Ball plays a lot more minutes then Sotirio.

Both players poor finishing have cost us wins this season.
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almost 5 years ago
Super win!

Mr Positive

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almost 5 years ago
Marto
billyspleen75
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billyspleen75
Marto
The biggest chance waster is Ball. He should have scored about 3 tonight.
 Ball has a great work rate but his finishing is barely a step above Sotirio's
That's not really true though. Ball scores about 1 in every 4 games, Sotirio 1 in 6. He's a far more valuable player in every respect.
That's a worthless stat for the conversation.
At least give us the mins per goal stat.

But this is an observation based on watching the chances they get and the quality of their finishing.
Last season Ball scored 2 or 3 flukey tap ins that were fairly poor strikes.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Ball. But his finishing isn't that great.
 both are bang average finishers but Ball plays a lot more minutes then Sotirio.
If we win every game 3-0 he can miss all the open goals he likes!
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almost 5 years ago · edited almost 5 years ago · History
Great win, but pissed off that Guawateva is allowed to be a pork chop where we’ve been carded in the past and then we catch two yellow cards, where they didn’t in the first half. Net result 3-0 on yellow cards going down the stretch. 

Gotta go and watch the highlights to cheer me up again!


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almost 5 years ago
If Ball didn't have the #9 jersey, there wouldn't be half the hubbub there is around his finishing. Just looking at his stats, we knew he was no Smeltz from the get go
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almost 5 years ago · edited almost 5 years ago · History
Dura all choked up.  

Nice send off from the fans, although half of them seem a bit baffled as to who he is!


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almost 5 years ago
Outpost
Dura all choked up. 
 Really class interview all round
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almost 5 years ago
Outpost
Banzai!...AIEEE!!!
Marto
I'm happy for Davila to leave if it means we can keep Hemed.  Really coming into his own these last few games.
 Not quite sure about that, to be honest...
Some very good moments aside the question is why Hemed hasn't shown this level of motivation and energy before now.
He hasn't been match fit, starting to find form and fitness. I'd definitely be happy to keep him. I think if he wants to pay in Israel nothing's going to stop him though.
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almost 5 years ago
Ball plays twice the 
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billyspleen75
Marto
The biggest chance waster is Ball. He should have scored about 3 tonight.
 Ball has a great work rate but his finishing is barely a step above Sotirio's
That's not really true though. Ball scores about 1 in every 4 games, Sotirio 1 in 6. He's a far more valuable player in every respect.
Ball plays twice the minutes Sotirio does 

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 5 years ago
Was it just me or did Fenton actually look like a footballer for a bit there??
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almost 5 years ago
Does Goran Paladin not know that Clayton Lewis and Norelle Sindos are dating? 
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almost 5 years ago
martinb
Marto
I'm happy for Davila to leave if it means we can keep Hemed.  Really coming into his own these last few games.
 
Well I’m slightly less terrified after the performances of Lewis and Piscopo today. And if we have strikers scoring goals there’s less pressure on our tens. But Uli was great us.

Piscopo though illustrates the flaws- 3-4 in the box and he shoots...okay at 3-0 I guess!

I know its been tried before (with Lewis out wide), but could we go back to Lewis and Reno as our wide 10's and have devlin (if he stays) and Steinmann (if he hasn't already signed anywhere) in the midfield? Based on talent and potential ability I don't think we'd be losing much with these two as our 10's.

Hemed also showing his class in the last few games. Would re-sign him if possible, finally starting to gell with the team and it shows. Those little flicks and quick passes are finally sticking, and he's scoring regularly. 
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almost 5 years ago
Also Tayls in his post match interview managed to struggle out the words "I want to stay" - CB pairing of Payne and Taylor is probably the best we've ever had. Lets keep them. LB of Sutton and McGarry is the best depth in the league and Fenton is getting close to being back to what could be viewed as an effective RB which is great to see. 
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almost 5 years ago
billyspleen75
Does Goran Paladin not know that Clayton Lewis and Norelle Sindos are dating? 

His comments are well tongue in cheek. He's plenty aware
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almost 5 years ago
coochiee
billyspleen75
Does Goran Paladin not know that Clayton Lewis and Norelle Sindos are dating? 

His comments are well tongue in cheek. He's plenty aware
Is she the one Clayton was cheekily wishing a happy birthday during their interview?
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almost 5 years ago · edited almost 5 years ago · History
Marto
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Marto
Listening to the half time commentary I think they watched a different game to us. 

Harry is about the only one who's worth listening to.
Even though I disagree with you it's been so long since we had a home game that I've actually missed your regular as clockwork pop at the NZ commentators!
 lol, mate both NZ and Aussie commentators are generally poor. Piney talks too fast and Fred is as dry as a piece of wood.

Apart from Harry, the Aussies are much better as a whole. They just get continually criticised because....... well they are Oztraylian.

Though they also have a tonne more experience than likes of Paladin, Green & co. Would be the type of gig the more you do it, the better you'd get for sure.

Kudos Wellington & NZ as a whole, fantastic crowd. Looked a great atmosphere on the telly. Were you watching D Gallop?

Will Nix get a combined NZ home attendance from 2 games, greater than WU get from a whole season in Victoria??

Oh and the Snakes were very very average. Perfect opponents for Nix after 18 months away, and a 24K crowd baying for goals.
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almost 5 years ago · edited almost 5 years ago · History
Marto
billyspleen75
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billyspleen75
Marto
The biggest chance waster is Ball. He should have scored about 3 tonight.
 Ball has a great work rate but his finishing is barely a step above Sotirio's
That's not really true though. Ball scores about 1 in every 4 games, Sotirio 1 in 6. He's a far more valuable player in every respect.
That's a worthless stat for the conversation.
At least give us the mins per goal stat.

But this is an observation based on watching the chances they get and the quality of their finishing.
Last season Ball scored 2 or 3 flukey tap ins that were fairly poor strikes.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Ball. But his finishing isn't that great.
both are bang average finishers but Ball plays a lot more minutes then Sotirio.

Both players poor finishing have cost us wins this season.
Cons for both: Poor finishers.
Sotirio Plus: He's fast. Really fast. A plan B (or A) for Uffie when something different is needed.
Ball Plus: He doesn't tend to lose the ball when dribbling, also probably a better defender. Tends to make better decisions. Has better close ball control. Occassionally links well with a striker and pulls in a few assists. 
Plus for both:  Both have a good engine and do a lot of defending on their flank helping out their FB. Both chip in with the odd goal which is important. 

Summary: Sotirio a really good squad player who adds an extra dimension to the Nix play when required. Ball, a solid if unspectacular visa player that fits into Uffie's tactics almost perfectly - stats show his goal scoring involvements are far higher when playing higher up the pitch but has recently spent a lot of time succesfully helping out his fullback. Another worth addition to the squad despite the visa.
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almost 5 years ago
billyspleen75
Does Goran Paladin not know that Clayton Lewis and Norelle Sindos are dating? 
 
What’s this? Didn’t see the coverage?


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almost 5 years ago
Massive congrats ....

What a crowd...

How well you played...

Shirts off...

Made the A-L proud today...

Hope you make the finals...

BTW you have quite an astute coach, glad he resigned ....

Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei

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almost 5 years ago
Smeltz4PM
Was it just me or did Fenton actually look like a footballer for a bit there??
 
Fenton has had some great games for us this year and been one of our most consistent and reliable players. I think. He didn’t do much different to his normal effort today. Maybe some wanna up grade, but who to?


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almost 5 years ago
Doloras
"Snakes didn't get any" - Doloras jr
Well trained D
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almost 5 years ago
It’s Uffie’s party!


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almost 5 years ago
Following from work back in New Plymouth and just want to say I'm so proud of this club.

For all the sacrifices we've made from the backend of last season and relocating to Aussie to finish off our campaign, to having to go through the exact same for 22 out of 26 matches (prior to today) speaks volumes about the character of this club and everyone involved. We love you Phoenix - A massive thank you for everyone turning out today in Wellington. There were many more there with you in spirit and many more who were following in from around the country, and further afield. Get amongst it tonight Wellingtonians, it must be buzzing down there at the moment!

COYN! 🟡⚫



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almost 5 years ago
Excellent Game, Fantastic occasion.
Well done Wellington and Well done Fever.
If you told me 10 years ago, the stadium would still be heaving with a core of talented kiwis, exciting youth players and (mostly) dedicated imports and Aussies, I wouldn't have believed it. 

Love that Dura gets his farewell here, and it was probably another nail in Rudans coffin. Sacked in the morning/end of the season.
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almost 5 years ago
martinb
Smeltz4PM
Was it just me or did Fenton actually look like a footballer for a bit there??
 
Fenton has had some great games for us this year and been one of our most consistent and reliable players. I think. He didn’t do much different to his normal effort today. Maybe some wanna up grade, but who to?
Callan Elliot and Jack-Henry Sinclair aren’t necessarily better right now but they both have much higher ceilings I reckon
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almost 5 years ago
Doubt Rudan will get the sack

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 5 years ago
Well we've finally cracked the problem of getting good home crowds in the regular season.

You just need a global pandemic that kills millions of people for over a year before every home game. 

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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almost 5 years ago
djtim3000
Also Tayls in his post match interview managed to struggle out the words "I want to stay" - CB pairing of Payne and Taylor is probably the best we've ever had. Lets keep them. LB of Sutton and McGarry is the best depth in the league and Fenton is getting close to being back to what could be viewed as an effective RB which is great to see. 
semantic, but Joel King and Zullo for Sydney is defo the best
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almost 5 years ago · edited almost 5 years ago · History
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mrsmiis
djtim3000
Also Tayls in his post match interview managed to struggle out the words "I want to stay" - CB pairing of Payne and Taylor is probably the best we've ever had. Lets keep them. LB of Sutton and McGarry is the best depth in the league and Fenton is getting close to being back to what could be viewed as an effective RB which is great to see. 
semantic, but Joel King and Zullo for Sydney is defo the best
I get ya. But 'Best we've ever had'

Edit: Drunk and just realised you're talking about LB depth. You win.
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almost 5 years ago · edited almost 5 years ago · History
1 year 6 months and 26 days since we lost in wellington 

We have NEVER lost at "sky stadium" 
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almost 5 years ago
What day so good to see many faces from our first season in attendance. The team turned it on to give a  brilliant crowd the result they wanted. Home just in time to watch the replay. Bring next season and lets have them home. Wellington that is.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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