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MOM vs Roar

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Sigmund always.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Siggy for me. Gao played well in 2nd half after probably getting a rocket up his arse at H/T. Maybe he should be told [through an interpreter :-) ] that if he doesn't perform right from the start he's off at H/T .
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
a lot of people seem to be commenting that gao plays for himself only. dodd motm for me.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He's a bit of a strop but at least he has pace and penetration, when he wants to he can rev the whole team up and get us rolling.
Siggy is solid, can get out of tight spots with techniques other than hoofing clear and has even began getting forward and delivering crosses. MotM no doubt.
McKain deserves a very worthy mention for moulding straight into the midfield role and played some great balls forward.
 
How the f**k did Kwa$nik get two votes he was rubbish, failed to block their goal (it glided stright betwen him and the post), barely played a trappable ball and strolled round the pitch slower than a legless deformed anteater.
You know we belong together...

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oska wrote:
failed to block their goal (it glided stright betwen him and the post
 
I would LOVE to see anybody on this forum faced with the same situation...much harder than it looks to deal with
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Siggy played brilliantly, Gao had moments - in the second half.....Smeltz looked out of sorts for some reason, Kwasnik has to be benched, he lets a goal in by duckiing away from the ball - your at the back post why????? plus he did very little all first half.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Masty wrote:
Oska wrote:
failed to block their goal (it glided stright betwen him and the post

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I would LOVE to see anybody on this forum faced with the same situation...much harder than it looks to deal with


He was out of position though. The whole point of guarding the posts at corners is precisely to guard against the kind of headers/shots that Queensland had on Sunday.
So as a defender in these kind of situations, you stay next to the post to deal with anything going just inside it. If Kwasnik had stayed where he was supposed to be, he would have been able to clear quite comfortably. But instead he took a step towards the middle of the goal, and then when the ball came towards him and just inside the post he was off-balance and out of position to deal with the header effectively. In essence, he made his job there much more difficult than it needed to be, and we lost the points because of it.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
As it was a short corner could Paston have told them to push out off the post? 
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sanday wrote:
As it was a short corner could Paston have told them to push out off the post?�


Good point, I'd forgotten that.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Masty wrote:
Oska wrote:
failed to block their goal (it glided stright betwen him and the post

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I would LOVE to see anybody on this forum faced with the same situation...much harder than it looks to deal with
You know my opinion of Kwas and this situation
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
monkeyboy wrote:
Surprised nobody has mentioned Durante, probably because he is just good old Mr Consistent. He defuses a lot of situations, one of those players that generally does a lot of work but doesn't get noticed.

Enjoyed watching Gao play, TBH its excellent to see our skillful players actually backing themselves and running at defenders, needs to happen more! Sure he lost the ball a few times but he looked genuinely dangerous heading in towards their box.

Siggy is such a mind ease at right back, very impressive also considering he's probably not the fastest player, just has great stance and strength, rarely beaten 1v1.
 
Durante has been consistantly sh*t all year. I think he has been our most disappointing signing
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Xcellent, your sh*t with bullsh*t posts like that, Dura has been a great signing.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
HUGE call calling Durante a bad signing!!! thought he has been excellent all year, most consistant player in the team
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't understand it, I think he's lost.

So obviously even Kwasnik has performed better?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
man2biron wrote:
HUGE call calling Durante a bad signing!!! thought he has been excellent all year, most consistant player in the team
Agreed, Dura hasen't even done anything wrong and is easily our most consistent.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
caseym wrote:
Xcellent, your sh*t with bullsh*t posts like that, Dura has been a great signing.


I watched him every game with Newcastle last year, awesome, this year not so good. Maybe i slightly exaggerated in saying hes the worst signing because Kwas is worse, but this year he has performed nowhere near what he did last year.  He has only looked better recentely because Dodd has made him look good, Dodd does the organising, Dodd wins the ball. Dura makes aimless passes and gets caught out (like a few weeks ago when Zura ran straight past him to score because Durante couldn't mark well enough). So get you head out of you rear and notice that someone on his salary should be performing much better.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Xcellent wrote:

caseym wrote:
Xcellent, your sh*t with bullsh*t posts like that, Dura has been a great signing.
I watched him every game with Newcastle last year, awesome, this year not so good. Maybe i slightly exaggerated in saying hes the worst signing because Kwas is worse, but this year he has performed nowhere near what he did last year.� He has only looked better recentely because Dodd has made him look good, Dodd does the organising, Dodd wins the ball. Dura makes aimless passes and gets caught out (like a few weeks ago when Zura ran straight past him to score because Durante couldn't mark well enough). So get you head out of you rear and notice that someone on his salary should be performing much better.
You will be one of the only people here that think that and he had North next to him last year so it was pretty easy to impress.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Dura has been decent in the defence. Not amazing, though he was one of our best players when we were playing terribly. His constant long ball has been very disappointing. valeo2008-10-28 20:25:32

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The only area in which Durante has disapointed me was in the early rounds when we were lacking leadership and our captain was struggling to provide it.

As for Kwasnik at the far post, I just watched a replay of the goal and he just loks as if he's not concentrating hard enough and drifted too far along the line, definately don't think Paston told him to leave his post.

You know we belong together...

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kwasnik looked like he tried to get his studs out of the turf when the ball went past him. He will have had nightmares about it. I agree it should never have gone between him and the post.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So now we're saying Kwasnik cost us the game.
 
OK, he shouldn't be in the team, but to blame him for the goal 48 hours after the event is getting ludicrous.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
StopOut wrote:
So now we're saying Kwasnik cost us the game.
 
OK, he shouldn't be in the team, but to blame him for the goal 48 hours after the event is getting ludicrous.

But it makes me feel better about our season prospects
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Wolfben wrote:
StopOut wrote:
So now we're saying Kwasnik cost us the game.
 
OK, he shouldn't be in the team, but to blame him for the goal 48 hours after the event is getting ludicrous.

But it makes me feel better about our season prospects
 
The sure things in life: death, taxes and Wolfben rants against Adam Kwasnik.
 
Actually, now that I think about it I'm pretty sure you once said something almost complimentary about him after the Sydney game. Go on, admit it.....
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
StopOut wrote:
OK, he shouldn't be in the team, but to blame him for the goal 48 hours after the event is getting ludicrous.


But it was his fault, we shouldn't say that? What should we say? Hard luck, chap, up and onwards, Bob's your uncle?

It was clear he made an elementary mistake straight after it went in, and it's been pointed out. Nothing ridiculous about that.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Not his fault we lost, well actually maybe his fault we didn't get a draw, but I'm still blaming our fear of just having a go
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oska wrote:

As for Kwasnik at the far post, I just watched a replay of the goal and he just loks as if he's not concentrating hard enough and drifted too far along the line, definately don't think Paston told him to leave his post.


Having watched the goal again i agree Kwasnik just made an error. I also don't think Paston told him to leave his post, as i suggested earlier.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
caseym wrote:
Not his fault we lost, well actually maybe his fault we didn't get a draw, but I'm still blaming our fear of just having a go
 
Why is that? Why are we so scared of just having a go?
 
Is it a player head problem? A coaching problem? Lack of a second striker who will put the fear of God into the opposition? All of the aforementioned?
 
If Smeltz goes, we need two, have-a-go strikers next season. With a couple of skilled "hard men" who will consistently attack the opposition, we would be a very different team.
 
A team that scores goals, brings back the crowds and also the raw excitement that's been slipping away since the Nix originally launched.
 
Sorry, but I can't see the current sqaud creating that sort of turnaround. I'd love to be wrong, but...
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The trouble with our strike force at the moment is we have one who can run and draw defenders away from the other - but he hasn't had a decent shot for the Nix yet, the other is our point man, seems nervous when he gets the ball to his feet and loses possesion - get it to his head and he's magic. We need to replace the older one with a young, quick guy, who isn't afraid to shoot when the opportunity arises.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

We lost and our worst player was Kwasnik, therefore he should shoulder a good chunk of the responisbility.

You know we belong together...

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
plus the fact that he's been dropped for Costa for the Perth Game, that speaks volumes!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yeah, volumes of common sense

You know we belong together...

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
YUS! Can't wait! Hopefully Costa gets a run and goes NUTZ!!!
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think it's clear now that Siggy has won this poll
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
caseym wrote:
I think it's clear now that Siggy has won this poll



nah there'll be some Daniel supports along in a minute...

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Feverish was my MOTM.

Did anybody else see how tremendously intoxicated he was?
 
As far as the actual game goes, Siggy gets my vote. But whole back 4 was solid.
 
Covs, Gao and Kwas were rubbish for me
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