valeo
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I expect;

Krishna

Williams

Burgess

Kurto

Kopy

Sheridan

To all leave. 

There's no way we can match Krishna's expected salary anymore, unfortunately.

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valeo wrote:

I expect;

Krishna

Williams

Burgess

Kurto

Kopy

Sheridan

To all leave. 

There's no way we can match Krishna's expected salary anymore, unfortunately.

Of the above, Krishna is the only one with direct links to New Zealand and the main (or only) reasons to go being financial, unlike other players where other factors would also apply.  I would expect Welnix focusing on that; otherwise we may not be able to compete financially in HAL anyway (despite it being a capped league).

Budgie lover
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I wouldn't begrudge Roy taking a big pay day somewhere else. 

He's been fantastic for us. 

If he can set up his family with his next contract then I wish him all the best.

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Is Kurto really going, there has been speculation he signed with Western United since the Jets game at home.

With our season over I would have thought an announcement would have been made but nothing.

No reason for there not to have been..so i'm wondering if its all rubbish and we are negotiating with him.  Or am i just being hopeful.

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I just hope he gets a fat contract in Japan/Korea so he won't have the opportunity to score against us like all of our other ex-players

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valeo wrote:

I expect;

Krishna

Williams

Burgess

Kurto

Kopy

Sheridan

To all leave. 

There's no way we can match Krishna's expected salary anymore, unfortunately.

why can't we match the salary? are you assuming that Welnix wont offer marquee? in which case he can't fit under the cap.

Kurto has been rumoured to be leaving for ages, but nothing confirmed.

Kopy was only a loan right where his home club paid a bulk of his wages? so it would make sense he'll go unless we can sign him permanently.

Burgess, Williams and Sherry have every opportunity with the nix to continue what they've started here.

I'd hope that most, if not all, of this list stay.

Woof Woof
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Villanix wrote:

Is Kurto really going, there has been speculation he signed with Western United since the Jets game at home.

With our season over I would have thought an announcement would have been made but nothing.

No reason for there not to have been..so i'm wondering if its all rubbish and we are negotiating with him.  Or am i just being hopeful.

Pretty sure that Dome said in an interview after the last game that Kurto is the only confirmed departure.

I agree with Valeo that there is a high chance that none on that list are with the club next season. Williams is probably the best chance of staying, and Kopa I think would be interested in staying, but that would probably mean re-working his $$$, and assumes that the club would want him to stay at any rate.

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theprof wrote:

valeo wrote:

I expect;

Krishna

Williams

Burgess

Kurto

Kopy

Sheridan

To all leave. 

There's no way we can match Krishna's expected salary anymore, unfortunately.

why can't we match the salary? are you assuming that Welnix wont offer marquee? in which case he can't fit under the cap.

Kurto has been rumoured to be leaving for ages, but nothing confirmed.

Kopy was only a loan right where his home club paid a bulk of his wages? so it would make sense he'll go unless we can sign him permanently.

Burgess, Williams and Sherry have every opportunity with the nix to continue what they've started here.

I'd hope that most, if not all, of this list stay.

WelNix are apparently offering marquee wages, other clubs are apparent offering significantly more.

Legend
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almost 17 years

I hope they'd look into a sponsor to keep Krishna- certainly could be a thing 

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Kurto confirmed gone.

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over 5 years

And confirmed to WU :((

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Villanix wrote:

Is Kurto really going, there has been speculation he signed with Western United since the Jets game at home.

With our season over I would have thought an announcement would have been made but nothing.

No reason for there not to have been..so i'm wondering if its all rubbish and we are negotiating with him.  Or am i just being hopeful.

Dang it, we'd gone so long with that rumor that I thought we stood a chance of signing it

THEN SOMEONE had to bring it up, and merely a few hours later its confirmed

#BlameVillanix2019 

He'll be a loss :( I really liked Kurto... I guess this means Marinovic is more likely now? 

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Remember all that consternation on here last off season about using an import slot on a keeper? 

Well we can at least take solace in the fact that we started a trend! 

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almost 17 years

Started it with Warner about 8 years ago

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Oska wrote:

Started it with Warner about 8 years ago

He was more of a keeper incognito...

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Shaun9 wrote:

Villanix wrote:

Is Kurto really going, there has been speculation he signed with Western United since the Jets game at home.

With our season over I would have thought an announcement would have been made but nothing.

No reason for there not to have been..so i'm wondering if its all rubbish and we are negotiating with him.  Or am i just being hopeful.

Dang it, we'd gone so long with that rumor that I thought we stood a chance of signing it

THEN SOMEONE had to bring it up, and merely a few hours later its confirmed

#BlameVillanix2019 

He'll be a loss :( I really liked Kurto... I guess this means Marinovic is more likely now? 

Would Marinovic be interested in coming to the Nix? He's lived away from NZ now (mostly Germany) for nearly 10 years.

He's age 27, by coming back to NZ, he's probably giving up on any dreams of ever 'making it' in Europe. That won't be an early realisation to have. Can only think of Vukovic as a keeper who has gone from the A League to Europe, at a later age (Soocerway says was about 32 when went to Belgium). Any others??? Likes of Ryan & Langerak were pretty young (both around 21).

Look Nix may offer Marinovic tempting dollars, and the certainty that he will start next season as the side's no 1 keeper. But I can see him wanting to trial for a few more months in Europe yet, and Nix as almost a last resort.

I see Gleeson if fit as being more likely. Could well be wrong.

RR
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Bossi Insider
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34K
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almost 16 years

Oska wrote:

Started it with Warner about 8 years ago

Glory did it first.
Trialist
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66
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Marinovic all but signed with the nix apparently 

JC
Phoenix Academy
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240
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almost 10 years

Marinovic all but signed with the nix apparently 

According to who? Great response by club to loss of Kurto, if so. 

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almost 10 years

Marinovic all but signed with the nix apparently 

Source please?

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almost 12 years

Good signing if true - would he be cheaper than Kurto was?

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almost 14 years

YoungHeart wrote:

Marinovic all but signed with the nix apparently 

Source please?

Someone from radio sports tweeted that it's a done deal, they just need to get a pharmacist internship for his partner.

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Ryan wrote:

YoungHeart wrote:

Marinovic all but signed with the nix apparently 

Source please?

Someone from radio sports tweeted that it's a done deal, they just need to get a pharmacist internship for his partner.

But happy to wait on an official announcement from the club.

Marquee
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almost 14 years

That pharmacist thing is so specific it has to be true.

valeo
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Legend
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18K
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about 17 years

Getting a keeper and future investment in free performance enhancing drugs - very smart

Not sure if Marinovic is a better option than Sail, but we'll find out soon.

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23K
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about 9 years

Ryan wrote:

That pharmacist thing is so specific it has to be true.

Yes you would think so.

Well couldn't have got that more wrong if it is true. Wonder how long deal is.

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about 17 years

valeo wrote:

Getting a keeper and future investment in free performance enhancing drugs - very smart

Not sure if Marinovic is a better option than Sail, but we'll find out soon.

Marinovic has played dozens of games in leagues better than a-league, where Sail has only played as back up. He has also looked class for All Whites. Imo Marinovic is clearly a better option.

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450
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over 11 years

What is relevant for me with Kurto was the arrival this past season of Paul Gothard as GK coach.  

Okay, he showed he was a bit of a bench hot head at times getting involved in slanging matches with other benches and officials.  But Kurto arrived as the number two from a middle of the table dutch team supposedly prone to howlers (check back the comments from last June/July when he arrived).  Not suggesting that is a comparable standard at all but he was hardly a known name.

I reckon a lot of his success with us was Paul.  Oli Sail was also a far better keeper this year than he was last as well.  Another measure of Paul.  We need to be hanging onto him.

and 1 other
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240
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over 5 years

valeo wrote:

COnst wrote:

Mainland FC wrote:

Read recently in the Polish sports newspaper a low-key comment from Kopa's partner (forgot her last name but it is not Kopczynska) that they were looking forward to seeing family in Warsaw as she missed her Mum - but no idea whether it was a permanent return or a holiday. The snippet was about womens rugby and not about Michal Kopczynski.

Like most, I do not rate Kopa at his original position of DM, but that was also his case at Legia, where he slowly slipped down from a preferred candidate to a third choice at DM, since a new coach took over. So it might be that being converted to a CB is a key for him to reinvent himself back home in Warsaw. I cannot see ourselves paying his full wages; and you'd be mad to.

The guy is not good in the air and does not tackle.  

He holds back from attackers and tries to intercept balls with his positioning,something he is quite good at. That approach won't cut it in the back line for him, because he is too slow to deal with quick attackers and can't stop crosses.

He's average and there are better, cheaper options.

To his credit, I thought his passing from CB was very good and was a big reason why we went on the winning run in the middle of the season.

That's true. He is a good distributor as well as good in positioning himself, it's the contact areas that he needs to improve.

Phoenix Academy
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240
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over 5 years

siac wrote:

valeo wrote:

Getting a keeper and future investment in free performance enhancing drugs - very smart

Not sure if Marinovic is a better option than Sail, but we'll find out soon.

Marinovic has played dozens of games in leagues better than a-league, where Sail has only played as back up. He has also looked class for All Whites. Imo Marinovic is clearly a better option.

Absolutely. Experience counts for a lot back there.

JC
Phoenix Academy
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240
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almost 10 years

Walsall Boy wrote:

What is relevant for me with Kurto was the arrival this past season of Paul Gothard as GK coach.  

Okay, he showed he was a bit of a bench hot head at times getting involved in slanging matches with other benches and officials.  But Kurto arrived as the number two from a middle of the table dutch team supposedly prone to howlers (check back the comments from last June/July when he arrived).  Not suggesting that is a comparable standard at all but he was hardly a known name.

I reckon a lot of his success with us was Paul.  Oli Sail was also a far better keeper this year than he was last as well.  Another measure of Paul.  We need to be hanging onto him.

Gothard isn't the first, and won't be the last, GK coach / GK who is as comfortable with his mouth as he is under a cross. Bit of an occupational hazard IMHO. And, yes, we need to keep hold of him if possible.

Marquee
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over 17 years

siac wrote:

valeo wrote:

Getting a keeper and future investment in free performance enhancing drugs - very smart

Not sure if Marinovic is a better option than Sail, but we'll find out soon.

Marinovic has played dozens of games in leagues better than a-league, where Sail has only played as back up. He has also looked class for All Whites. Imo Marinovic is clearly a better option.

While I'm pleased to see another Kiwi back at the Phoenix, this is a pretty generous interpretation of his club career.  He'

s generally struggled to hold down a first team place and most of his football was in the MLS which isn't a great standard

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1.4K
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almost 17 years

james dean wrote:

siac wrote:

valeo wrote:

Getting a keeper and future investment in free performance enhancing drugs - very smart

Not sure if Marinovic is a better option than Sail, but we'll find out soon.

Marinovic has played dozens of games in leagues better than a-league, where Sail has only played as back up. He has also looked class for All Whites. Imo Marinovic is clearly a better option.

While I'm pleased to see another Kiwi back at the Phoenix, this is a pretty generous interpretation of his club career.  He'

s generally struggled to hold down a first team place and most of his football was in the MLS which isn't a great standard

MLS might not be great, but I think it's generally a higher standard of football than the A-League. 

Marquee
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about 13 years
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over 8 years

james dean wrote:

siac wrote:

valeo wrote:

Getting a keeper and future investment in free performance enhancing drugs - very smart

Not sure if Marinovic is a better option than Sail, but we'll find out soon.

Marinovic has played dozens of games in leagues better than a-league, where Sail has only played as back up. He has also looked class for All Whites. Imo Marinovic is clearly a better option.

While I'm pleased to see another Kiwi back at the Phoenix, this is a pretty generous interpretation of his club career.  He'

s generally struggled to hold down a first team place and most of his football was in the MLS which isn't a great standard

MLS is leaps and bounds better than the A-League though.
Starting XI
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about 9 years

Nelfoos wrote:

james dean wrote:

siac wrote:

valeo wrote:

Getting a keeper and future investment in free performance enhancing drugs - very smart

Not sure if Marinovic is a better option than Sail, but we'll find out soon.

Marinovic has played dozens of games in leagues better than a-league, where Sail has only played as back up. He has also looked class for All Whites. Imo Marinovic is clearly a better option.

While I'm pleased to see another Kiwi back at the Phoenix, this is a pretty generous interpretation of his club career.  He'

s generally struggled to hold down a first team place and most of his football was in the MLS which isn't a great standard

MLS is leaps and bounds better than the A-League though.

he's played 32 games in the MLS - so two dozen rather than dozens!

before that he was playing 5th or 6th tier German football

Woof Woof
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19K
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almost 17 years

Well, 2 and 2/3 of a dozen, if we're going to be pedantic.

And we all know that I am.

RR
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34K
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almost 16 years

Yakcall wrote:

I have been informed by a Polish journalist that Michal Kopczynski does have another season on his Legia Warsaw contract but a squad overhaul is likely, which means he could be loaned out again.

— Phillip Rollo (@ByPhillipRollo) May 14, 2019


The overhaul of the current group does mean the loan players could also come back to prove themselves though.

— Phillip Rollo (@ByPhillipRollo) May 14, 2019


Polish WSW fan I know on Twitter reckons they are likely to let him go on a free, he is on decent coin and they want to cut costs a little.
valeo
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Legend
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18K
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about 17 years

siac wrote:

valeo wrote:

Getting a keeper and future investment in free performance enhancing drugs - very smart

Not sure if Marinovic is a better option than Sail, but we'll find out soon.

Marinovic has played dozens of games in leagues better than a-league, where Sail has only played as back up. He has also looked class for All Whites. Imo Marinovic is clearly a better option.

That doesn't mean he's the better keeper, it means he's been given more chances (and, to be honest, has failed more times than succeeded)

Having two kiwis battle it out for the #1 spot seems like a good move, though.

valeo
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18K
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I'm a bit worried we'll be keeping Kopy tbh..We can do better.

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