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Nix V Bling Sat 25th 7.30pm

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Nix V Bling Sat 25th 7.30pm
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Ok guys. I'm putting $500 on the bar at my pub for nix supporters in Sydney. That's 50 jugs of beer...and some finger food for pre match warm up...

Where: The Haymarket Hotel, Sydney. 661 George St, Haymarket.
See www.thehaymarkethotel.com.au for details.
Jugs of beer, house wine from 2pm.

At 4pm, we will head up to the Captain Cook Hotel, then over to the stadium at around 5pm ish.

Hopefully, we will be able to muster up a big turnout for this game as last years game at the sfs was simply awesome (apart from the result).

So who is in?
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Sorry, Shud have put this in dangerous liaisons.
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That sure is good of you Marco, did you have to run it by your dad first.

Have we ever beaten sydney at SFS?




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Dad has ok'd it. I'm going halves with Harry
Can I come home yet?
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MarcoRojas wrote:
Dad has ok'd it. I'm going halves with Harry
Can I come home yet?

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

And this is our Home

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George Kostanza wrote:
That sure is good of you Marco, did you have to run it by your dad first. Have we ever beaten sydney at SFS?



season 1 - first away win

2-1 Daniel pen and Felipe wonder-strike iirc
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is that our only win there?


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also
Round 11 - 2008�09 7 November 2008     

Sydney FC      1 : 2      Wellington Phoenix     
Sydney Football Stadium, Sydney     
S. Musialik 77'     Summary     L. Bertos 33'
S. Smeltz 89' (pen.)
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George Kostanza wrote:
is that our only win there?



And 25 th feb 2012

4-0
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Don't count your chickens Marco, Sydney have just beaten Adelaide 2-1 at Hindmarsh, they've won 2 in a row and could very well beat us.
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what's that heart for in marco's celebration, "i love training facilities"?

top work though Mr Pub Owner, hope you get a decent crowd in!
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George Kostanza wrote:
Don't count your chickens Marco, Sydney have just beaten Adelaide 2-1 at Hindmarsh, they've won 2 in a row and could very well beat us.


If we play with the naivete we've shown in the last two games and forget the lessones we learnt earlier in the season i have every faith that Sydney will win.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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guna stick my neck out and say we missed timmy brown against ccm... big call, but he coulda ended up on the end of something and would at least have put a foot in somewhere in that first half when sanchez was a passenger

and as much as i want it to work, we looked weak with lia at RB, he has to swap back with manny surely

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Hard News wrote:

George Kostanza wrote:
Don't count your chickens Marco, Sydney have just beaten Adelaide 2-1 at Hindmarsh, they've won 2 in a row and could very well beat us.

If we play with the naivete we've shown in the last two games and forget the lessones we learnt earlier in the season i have every faith that Sydney will win.


Gee thanks HN..I was quietly confident after tonight's game over the Barrellers then you go & put the mockers on us.

"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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paulm wrote:
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and as much as i want it to work, we looked weak with lia at RB, he has to swap back with manny surely <<<



Yep, i wanted Manny to maintain a place in midfield, but by halftime v ccm - I was ready to get Lia out of right back and put Manny in defence again
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This season I was praising Lia and could see him improving, but at RB, I really cant be positive about him. Against quality opposition, he just isnt up to it yet.


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tigers wrote:
paulm wrote:
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and as much as i want it to work, we looked weak with lia at RB, he has to swap back with manny surely <<<



Yep, i wanted Manny to maintain a place in midfield, but by halftime v ccm - I was ready to get Lia out of right back and put Manny in defence again


Half-time.. that's generous. the writing was on the wall about 20 minutes in.

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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Hard News wrote:
10 minutes.


before kickoff....
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youknow wrote:

Hard News wrote:
10 minutes.
before kickoff....

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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playwithFire wrote:
This season I was praising Lia and could see him improving, but at RB, I really cant be positive about him. Against quality opposition, he just isnt up to it yet.
 
This
Its amazing how some people were calling for lia to play RB for the AW's. I guess we have that sorted now!
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Any idea about when and where the team is training this week?? Im hoping to get my new stripey (18th b-day gift) signed and shown off around sydney!!
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zinidane wrote:
playwithFire wrote:
This season I was praising Lia and could see him improving, but at RB, I really cant be positive about him. Against quality opposition, he just isnt up to it yet.
 
This
Its amazing how some people were calling for lia to play RB for the AW's. I guess we have that sorted now!


What's more amazing is that the national coach himself thought this was a good idea...we've suffered from the results of this test too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Leggy wrote:
youknow wrote:

Hard News wrote:
10 minutes.
before kickoff....





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Sums it up pretty well I think

Hope we are not going to play our sit back game against Sydney

"There is no shame in losing to a better team but it is the submissive nature of the Wellington Phoenix's back-to-back defeats that will grate with both them and their supporters.

After an off-season from hell the Phoenix can justifiably be proud to sit fourth in the A-League, but losses to the Central Coast Mariners and the Brisbane Roar have reinforced the gulf that remains between them and the top two teams across the ditch.

The superbly drilled Mariners and Roar - both comfortable 2-0 winners over the Phoenix - appear on a near- certain collision course for a grand final rematch.

On both occasions the Phoenix were guilty of allowing their footballing superiors to dominate possession and dictate play, seemingly intent on firstly not conceding, then hitting their frustrated opponents on the break.

It is a tactic that can sometimes work but if the Phoenix - as they say they do - have ambition to actually try and win the league then they must take some risks and play a bit, not just when they are chasing the game.

It was galling to see Paul Ifill having to spend most of Saturday night in Gosford in the unfamiliar role of defending against the Mariners' fullbacks, rather than being able to have a lash himself.

And it was surprising to see Chris Greenacre, who, despite his advancing years, had looked the most likely Phoenix goal-scorer by some distance, being hauled off for Nick Ward at 1-0 down with 20 minutes to play.

But the Phoenix are a resilient mob and, after licking their wounds at their Bondi Beach base this week, will reload for their next assignment.

The Phoenix should still make the playoffs and, thanks to their wonderful four-game winning streak, remain in the box seat to finish in the top four and secure at least one home final at Westpac Stadium.

Captain Andrew Durante and vice-captain Tim Brown, return from suspension to add some starch and experience and they will not be daunted by the identity of their next four opponents � Sydney FC, Gold Coast United and the two Melbourne teams.

But it will be the final match of the regular season, at home against the Mariners, which will provide an indication of whether the Phoenix have the conviction and ability to trouble the league's top dogs.

The Phoenix are an aging side and their core players know that their window of opportunity to challenge for the title is not particularly wide.

It is time to be bold then, otherwise some fresh blood and fresh ideas will need to be called upon in the search for glory next season and beyond."


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hepatitis wrote:
Sums it up pretty well I think

Hope we are not going to play our sit back game against Sydney

"There is no shame in losing to a better team but it is the submissive nature of the Wellington Phoenix's back-to-back defeats that will grate with both them and their supporters.

After an off-season from hell the Phoenix can justifiably be proud to sit fourth in the A-League, but losses to the Central Coast Mariners and the Brisbane Roar have reinforced the gulf that remains between them and the top two teams across the ditch.

The superbly drilled Mariners and Roar - both comfortable 2-0 winners over the Phoenix - appear on a near- certain collision course for a grand final rematch.

On both occasions the Phoenix were guilty of allowing their footballing superiors to dominate possession and dictate play, seemingly intent on firstly not conceding, then hitting their frustrated opponents on the break.

It is a tactic that can sometimes work but if the Phoenix - as they say they do - have ambition to actually try and win the league then they must take some risks and play a bit, not just when they are chasing the game.

It was galling to see Paul Ifill having to spend most of Saturday night in Gosford in the unfamiliar role of defending against the Mariners' fullbacks, rather than being able to have a lash himself.

And it was surprising to see Chris Greenacre, who, despite his advancing years, had looked the most likely Phoenix goal-scorer by some distance, being hauled off for Nick Ward at 1-0 down with 20 minutes to play.

But the Phoenix are a resilient mob and, after licking their wounds at their Bondi Beach base this week, will reload for their next assignment.

The Phoenix should still make the playoffs and, thanks to their wonderful four-game winning streak, remain in the box seat to finish in the top four and secure at least one home final at Westpac Stadium.

Captain Andrew Durante and vice-captain Tim Brown, return from suspension to add some starch and experience and they will not be daunted by the identity of their next four opponents � Sydney FC, Gold Coast United and the two Melbourne teams.

But it will be the final match of the regular season, at home against the Mariners, which will provide an indication of whether the Phoenix have the conviction and ability to trouble the league's top dogs.

The Phoenix are an aging side and their core players know that their window of opportunity to challenge for the title is not particularly wide.

It is time to be bold then, otherwise some fresh blood and fresh ideas will need to be called upon in the search for glory next season and beyond."


 
This
I think the team has learned a valuable lesson from the last two games.
 
If you want to be a "big" team you have to play like a "big" team.
 
By getting to second place we showed we have the ability to foot it with most team s in the A-League..both home and away. The team played with admirable skill and Rickie to his credit and a little against his normal conservative character came up with some innovative tactics and selections(especially for the away games)
 
However when required to step up against the big guns we froze, we reverted to our conservative default setting. Instead of being bold, we were timid. Instead of imposing OUR game on the match we sat back and let the opposition dictate the terms. In both games we only started to play well into the second half when we went a goal down. Then we showed what we should have been doing from the first minute.
 
As well as the players failing to step up Rickie froze as well. He failed to react, to motivate, he didn't change his game plan/tactics when they were not working, his use of the bench was poor.
 
So what happens from now to the seasons end?. IMO this team has the ability to finish in 3rd place. But having the ability and performing to that ability are two different things. So much of top sport is mental. Our team is full of seasoned pro's who know whats required. Most of them are at the tail end of their career and know that its getting near "last chance saloon" for them. Motivation should not be a problem. Execution is what its all about.
 
Should be an interesting last 5 games.
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hepatitis wrote:
Sums it up pretty well I think

Hope we are not going to play our sit back game against Sydney

"There is no shame in losing to a better team but it is the submissive nature of the Wellington Phoenix's back-to-back defeats that will grate with both them and their supporters.

After an off-season from hell the Phoenix can justifiably be proud to sit fourth in the A-League, but losses to the Central Coast Mariners and the Brisbane Roar have reinforced the gulf that remains between them and the top two teams across the ditch.

The superbly drilled Mariners and Roar - both comfortable 2-0 winners over the Phoenix - appear on a near- certain collision course for a grand final rematch.

On both occasions the Phoenix were guilty of allowing their footballing superiors to dominate possession and dictate play, seemingly intent on firstly not conceding, then hitting their frustrated opponents on the break.

It is a tactic that can sometimes work but if the Phoenix - as they say they do - have ambition to actually try and win the league then they must take some risks and play a bit, not just when they are chasing the game.

It was galling to see Paul Ifill having to spend most of Saturday night in Gosford in the unfamiliar role of defending against the Mariners' fullbacks, rather than being able to have a lash himself.

And it was surprising to see Chris Greenacre, who, despite his advancing years, had looked the most likely Phoenix goal-scorer by some distance, being hauled off for Nick Ward at 1-0 down with 20 minutes to play.

But the Phoenix are a resilient mob and, after licking their wounds at their Bondi Beach base this week, will reload for their next assignment.

The Phoenix should still make the playoffs and, thanks to their wonderful four-game winning streak, remain in the box seat to finish in the top four and secure at least one home final at Westpac Stadium.

Captain Andrew Durante and vice-captain Tim Brown, return from suspension to add some starch and experience and they will not be daunted by the identity of their next four opponents � Sydney FC, Gold Coast United and the two Melbourne teams.

But it will be the final match of the regular season, at home against the Mariners, which will provide an indication of whether the Phoenix have the conviction and ability to trouble the league's top dogs.

The Phoenix are an aging side and their core players know that their window of opportunity to challenge for the title is not particularly wide.

It is time to be bold then, otherwise some fresh blood and fresh ideas will need to be called upon in the search for glory next season and beyond."




sauce?

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George Kostanza wrote:


sauce?


DOM Post
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http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news-display/triple-treat-on-offer-for-sydney/45574

ydney FC will go in search of their longest winning streak since 2009 when they host Wellington Phoenix in the Hyundai A-League on Saturday.

Vitezslav Lavicka's Sydney side defeated Perth Glory 2-1 at home on February 11, and backed that result up with another 2-1 victory away to Adelaide United last week.

If they beat Wellington this weekend, it will be the first time since December 2009 they have recorded three wins in succession.

It is a remarkable record given the fact Sydney lifted the Hyundai A-League crown several months later, and demonstrates the sleeping giant's inconsistency in the past two campaigns.

Sydney's three wins on the bounce in 2009 came in the lead-up to Christmas, starting with a 4-1 rout of North Queensland Fury and followed by 1-0 victories against Wellington Phoenix and Central Coast Mariners.

Having come off the back of three defeats in a row, that last hat-trick of wins also sparked a six-match unbeaten run that included four victories in a season in which they would claim the premiership-championship double.

This week they are unlikely to have an easy time of it against a club firmly in contention for a top-four finish.

Wellington have lost their past two matches, but those defeats came against the top two teams in the competition, Central Coast Mariners and Brisbane Roar.

Prior to that, the New Zealand-based side managed four successive victories, against Adelaide, Melbourne Heart, Newcastle and Gold Coast.

In Englishmen Paul Ifill and Chris Greenacre they boast two of the more potent attacking threats in the competition, ably supported by Leo Bertos and Dani Sanchez.

Expect Bruno Cazarine to lead the line for Sydney, while Nicky Carle will be charged with supplying chances for the Brazilian striker in the final third.

Marquee signing Brett Emerton found himself on the scoresheet against Perth, and will team up with Terry McFlynn in a bid to stifle Wellington's physical approach in midfield.

And while Wellington are not yet certain of their own spot in the finals, sitting fourth but just five points above seventh-placed Newcastle, Sydney FC will be keen to cement their place as they chase a finals berth, having only just gone back inside the top six.




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Ferk me!!!
 
Just read the Brown interview. He said that there is little realistic chance now of the Nix getting a home playoff game. Thats kind of defeatist IMO. For a senior player to throw in the towel with five games to go is amazing. FFS they are 4th....they still will be 4th even if they lose in the weekend. We have a far superor goal differnce to those below us. We are better than most teams in the league.....the lads just have to get out there and play like they were, a few weeks ago.
 
There is absolutely no reason why we can't finish 4th.....and I will refuse to accept that we won't make it until it is mathematically impossible
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Calm down.

If you read that piece again I'm fairly certain that the journalist just wrote it up wrong.

Brown's actual quotes either side of the bit about not getting a home play-off are clearly related to finishing in the top two, so I think the journalist was just being thick.

Brown admitting that we probably won't finish in the top two is just being realistic.

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terminator_x wrote:
Calm down.

If you read that piece again I'm fairly certain that the journalist just wrote it up wrong.

Brown's actual quotes either side of the bit about not getting a home play-off are clearly related to finishing in the top two, so I think the journalist was just being thick.

Brown admitting that we probably won't finish in the top two is just being realistic.



Yep.
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Sanchez needs to step up. Hasn't had a good game in about a month.

a.haak

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The whole bleeding team has to step up
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valeo wrote:
Sanchez needs to step up. Hasn't been played centrally in about a month.
fixed
You know we belong together...

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Oska wrote:
valeo wrote:
Sanchez needs to step up. Hasn't been played centrally in about a month.
fixed
 
No matter where he's playing he should be able to pass and cross accurately, as well as make at least a pretence of defending. He's been below average in all departments IMO. Daniel offers more.
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