Nix V Sudney Wed 1st 9pm

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Heaps of pessimism on this forum. I think alot of positives can be taken from last night.
We dominated possession for large spells but were very unlucky.
Rojas is a great talent and should start while Leo is injured, Leo can sub on for him later (he's probably not fit for 90, give him 60 or so)
Our piss poor crossing shows we really need Leo and Lochy (not that I particualy rate Leo's crossing bit inconsistent also)
Absolutly agree with the above we can attack through the middle and should. Also we should be taking the ball to byline more often and cutting it back.
Bring on the 4-4-2, the team that finished last night should be similar to the one that starts in Chch.
Also we need a chant new chant for sydney relating to their epic, evil handling of balls.
P.S anyone know where to get match stats for the game? I want to see the shots/on target and final possession and terriotory stats.

hard notto be pessimistic we lost 3-1

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jag wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

..............Its just the same old sh*t every week since day one. sh*t defending. Yeah ok, we had a few game last year where we held it together long enough to finish 4th, but lets be honest here... nothings really changed has it?

I'd suggest things have changed this year:

Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts

2009/10 27 10 10 7 37 29 +8 40

2010/11 18 5 4 9 21 31 -10 19

Sorry, read again. How about you throw 2007/08 and 2008/09 in there as well and you will see what Im getting at.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jag wrote:

loyalgunner wrote:

........ He also didn't send Paston off for being a knob and scooping the ball back into play when he could have picked it up following an attack early in the first half......

Didn't see the game last night. Not sure I follow this.

I think it was Bridge had a shot from top of box, Paston couldn't dive out of the way fast enough and it hit him, rebound fell to brosque's feet at the same time as Paston diving out of the way and Pastons outstretched hand blocked the shot, then the ball was sitting there with only Paston around and instead of picking it up Pasty tried to punch it away.

(Events described may not be 100% accurate and may be biased against Paston - worst goalie in the league)

HELP2010-12-02 13:42:17

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Just watching the highlights on Sky now, f**k me Sigmund was a sack of sh*t with that 3rd goal. Sitting back, letting the ball bounce twice, letting Ryall in front of him, and then just stopping and not playing to the whistle with that hand ball. f**king numpty, this is the kind of sh*t that we need to stop. There was no urgency at all.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

HELP wrote:

Jag wrote:

loyalgunner wrote:

........ He also didn't send Paston off for being a knob and scooping the ball back into play when he could have picked it up following an attack early in the first half......

Didn't see the game last night. Not sure I follow this.

(Events described may not be 100% accurate and may be biased against Paston - worst goalie in the league)

Id say thats fairly accurate to what happened. I was watching that game at Monteiths Paremata with a few 'neutrals' and they all said the same thing "why didnt the goalie just pick it up?". Im guessing that with his back to the pitch, and nobody telling him that he had time, he didnt know. But as for worst keeper in the league... far from it. Hes saved so many 1 on 1s this season and seasons past, that have kept us in the game its not even funny.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Smithy wrote:

Grandadi wrote:

We actually played pretty well. They converted their (very few) chances, and we didn't.

Nil Desperandum!

We're gonna win the league!

This.

So much this.

Please everyone read this.

It's patently bleeding obvious. We have two big strikers in Pav and Mac, one is lively and fairly quick and the other is big, experienced and ACCURATE. Play them up the middle. You can feed them from the wings or route one, won't matter. Ifill will still get the occasional stunner- with him, Leo and Rojas supplying the brilliance behind this strike pair, we're unstoppable.

We can beat anybody.
We are the Phoenix.

And another thing- we will take Adelaide at the weekend. This is my (as usual, legendary) prediction. They will be ours.
Oh yes...
Grandadi2010-12-02 14:03:49

Nostalgia isnt what it used to be...........

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

HELP wrote:

(Events described may not be 100% accurate and may be biased against Paston - worst goalie in the league)

Really? Considering there are about 12-15 keepers riding the pine indicates proves you have no idea.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

..and Petkovic.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

HELP wrote:

Tegal wrote:

I thought we actually dominated,id love to see territory stats!

And this is the problem with NZ football, trying to play like rugby. I was always under the impression that football was more of a possession game than a territory game. Obviously they both play a part but having the ball is far more important. But I bet you love having Troy in the team, with his aimless lumps up the field to their centre backs.

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The first goal, while Troy missed his header and blocked Pastons view of the ball leaving him no chance.
Why did Pasty not come catch the ball, or punch as he likes to do? It was a lobbed cross, and the header was made from the six yard box.

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Other than that I thought first half our midfield looked very good, they were actually passing it between themselves and keeping the
ball. Marco looked lively when he came on, but should have at least
tested the keeper late on.

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Mate did you even watch the game.

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If you had then you would know that i wasn't making it out like a bloody rugby game. To take my comment completely out of context
then attatch it to all of NZ (while im flattered that i represent an entire people) is stupid.

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If you had watched,you would know that i meant we were on attack most of the game,in sydneys half with about 4 times as many
balls into the box than sydney had. We dominated.

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Seriously,get a grip.

Actually have you considered a career as a journalist for the doom post. Its the perfect job for you.

Allegedly

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Whats the use in dominating possession though if...

a: you cant score for sh*t, and...
b: you defend like c**ts

Its laughable that some people this far into the season are contempt with "ah well at least we dominated possession". I can understand being happy with this after the first couple of rounds, but into the second half of the season, with this many losses under out belt, nothing short of winning games will suffice IMO. Trying to take positives from statistics that at the end of the day mean sweet f**k all isnt doing anything for anyone.

The only stat that matters is that little one up in the top left corner of your telly that said:

SYD 3
WEL 1

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Agreed.

Much better we look at it and see us looking like we did against CCM and the Clogs where we didn't even turn up for the games and never looked like winning again than thinking we're okay if we get Behind them they only need some luck to turn this around.

Much better.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I for one will be leaving at half-time at the next RoF game if we haven't got 7 and Ifill a hat-trick.

Also as it's the Jests I will porbably wear my Toon stripey.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Everybody hates losing. But there's no point being angsty over a good performance,where we had enough chances to win it but just couldn't convert,and Sydney had 3 chances and took them (2 of which we were unlucky with refereeing decisions)

Some losses you just have to take on the chin and look at the positives.

Allegedly

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

Whats the use in dominating possession though if...a: you cant score for sh*t, and...b: you defend like c**tsIts laughable that some people this far into the season are contempt with "ah well at least we dominated possession". I can understand being happy with this after the first couple of rounds, but into the second half of the season, with this many losses under out belt, nothing short of winning games will suffice IMO. Trying to take positives from statistics that at the end of the day mean sweet f**k all isnt doing anything for anyone.The only stat that matters is that little one up in the top left corner of your telly that said:SYD 3WEL 1

To use your wonderful turn of language why don't you f**k off and support Man Utd or Chelsea if you can't come up with anything constructive!(Note I didn't say positive - there is a difference).

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

zizoustainrod wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

Whats the use in dominating possession though if...a: you cant score for sh*t, and...b: you defend like c**tsIts laughable that some people this far into the season are contempt with "ah well at least we dominated possession". I can understand being happy with this after the first couple of rounds, but into the second half of the season, with this many losses under out belt, nothing short of winning games will suffice IMO. Trying to take positives from statistics that at the end of the day mean sweet f**k all isnt doing anything for anyone.The only stat that matters is that little one up in the top left corner of your telly that said:SYD 3WEL 1

To use your wonderful turn of language why don't you f**k off and support Man Utd or Chelsea if you can't come up with anything constructive!(Note I didn't say positive - there is a difference).

From what i can gather he does support Man Utd. And Barca.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

CboZ wrote:

zizoustainrod wrote:

CboZ wrote:

Can everyone stop crying about offside goals and hand ball goals, it happens , I'd rather not read about moaning about them it happened thats life move on.

NO!! Usually I'd agree with you but for some reason after this game I am right pissed off. We created chances, ran at opponents (sometimes even with the ball!)had plenty of shots on target and were still undone by a couple of (from my non MySky view) offside decisions (one for Sydney, one against Ifill)and as blatant a handball as you will ever see.

!!!

Yeah but you moaning about it won't fix it. Offsides occur, and when you get away with it well done. Handballs will continue to happen until fifa do something about it.

You're kidding! I thought if we moaned enough that FFA might review the match, decide that we made some fair and reasonable points and award us a draw!

We Still Love You Colin We Do!

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

HELP wrote:

(Events described may not be 100% accurate and may be biased against Paston - worst goalie in the league)

Really? Considering there are about 12-15 keepers riding the pine indicates proves you have no idea.

I'd go as far as to say he is one of the best in the league, if not the best. [punching aside that is

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jag wrote:

Wasn't it about this time last year that we started a run that took us to the play-offs? Maybe we're getting ready for lift-off again!

Agree about the Goals Against though. Considering we've added an International centre back to the squad, it's not what you would have expected. As you say, losing Lochhead through injury has been a massive blow for us, I reckon and it shows just how good McKain actually was for us last year.

As for the crossing, and attacking from wide, being our only option. Sad but true. We haven't got the mobility in midfield to play any other way. Look at the way the likes of Brisbane play, quick passing and movement through midfield.

We've lost an international quality centre back and replaced him with a worse one...

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

Just watching the highlights on Sky now, f**k me Sigmund was a sack of sh*t with that 3rd goal. Sitting back, letting the ball bounce twice, shielding the ball well with his body and then getting it bitch slapped away from him, and then just stopping and not playing to the whistle with that hand ball. f**king numpty, this is the kind of sh*t that we need to stop. There was no urgency at all.

corrected.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jag wrote:

AJ13 wrote:

I'd suggest things have changed this year:

Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts

2009/10 27 10 10 7 37 29 +8 40

2010/11 18 5 4 9 21 31 -10 19

Do you have the stats after 18 games last year?

Already we've lost more goals and games than at the end of last season! Very poor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Agreed.

Much better.

The point being made though is that the end result is still 0 points.

What would you think if we played not bad/quite well for the rest of the season but lost every game?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

And we'll have to have a good run to equal those wins too! but at least fewer draws than last season- am I right? am I right?

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Weird I know but I actually enjoyed the game. Pity Brown didn't poke that one in to make it 1-1 because I reckon we would've stolen a win.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

AJ13 wrote:

It is only one game - I'd like to think (and would probably be proven right by historical results) that if we continue to play the same way for the rest of the season then we will win far more than we lose. If statistics show an improvement in possession, shots, balls into the area and completed passes game by game, then I don't see why positive summations cannot be drawn. Its not like there are only 4 games to go.

Much better than vs CCM (for example) when we didnt even show up.

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