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Nix V Sudney Wed 1st 9pm

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hmm interesting that Siggy is RB, when he really doesn't have the same speed or technical ability as North. Norths bombed forward quite well so think he should be right back.

I guess I'd rather have Musa sitting on the bench for the full 90 rather than DMac


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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Rollin' Rollin' Rollin', Rojaaaaaaas 
 
Needs more injured Toto.
I like tautologies because I like them.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No Cazarine for them. Good news for us.
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Likely...

Paston
Sigmund-Durante-North-Hearfield
Muscat
Lia-Brown
Ward-Ifill-Daniel
 
Subs: Greenacre, Rojas, Musa, Vukovic
 
...Daniel not doing enough to be in the team ...no pace now and struggling to get into matches... Rojas should start for me
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Lochhead's groin has been 3 weeks for the last 3 weeks.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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Likely...


Paston

Sigmund-Durante-North-Hearfield

Muscat

Lia-Brown

Ward-Ifill-Daniel

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Subs: Greenacre, Rojas, Musa, Vukovic

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...Daniel not doing enough to be in the team ...no pace now and struggling to get into matches... Rojas should start for me


Yeah i'd agree - Daniel can whip in a good cross when he wants to but that's about it. All of the flair has been coached out of him.

a.haak

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
By flair, do you mean the back heels he does that almost never come off?
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No Cazarine for them. Good news for us.


True, but they have Jamieson and Keller back.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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2ndBest wrote:
By flair, do you mean the back heels he does that almost never come off?

Or falling on his arse every ten minutes and crying at the ref ?

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think this is interesting reading about tonights game, it was in the Dominion Post today, but because the mods have a misguided policy around the Dom Post, it isnt included in the news. So putting it in here.


"Ricki Herbert is set to make two personnel changes as the Wellington Phoenix return to the scene of their controversial playoff exit in Sydney tonight.

Sydney FC beat the Phoenix 4-2 in last season's preliminary final after Chris Payne scored a crucial goal from a blatant hand ball.

Sydney went on to win the A-League but like the Phoenix have struggled to live up to expectations this season.

The Phoenix are seventh and Sydney 10th although both sides are starting to find their feet and claw their way up the table.

Leo Bertos is out because of a groin problem, with Herbert expected to give Nick Ward a start in a front three also including Daniel and Paul Ifill, who is in a three-way tie with Perth's Robbie Fowler and Brisbane's Jean Carlos Soloranzo at the top of the golden boot race on seven goals.

And Ben Sigmund will return from suspension at right back, with Troy Hearfield swapping to left back in place of James Musa, and Andrew Durante and Jade North teaming up in central defence. Sigmund will have his hands full with Sydney dangerman Alex Brosque running at him but Herbert said he wanted to give Durante and North another opportunity together.

"Jade and Dura were good last week so we can maybe keep that partnership going. It's a challenge but Ben's always up for a challenge. The wide players are playing better now so it's probably not as important to get the fullbacks getting as far forward. Ben probably gives us a little bit more of that defensive solidity in that position."

Sydney have regained the services of utility Scott Jamieson (flu) and defender Stephan Keller (concussion), who both missed the 0-0 draw with Melbourne Heart on Saturday, but stars Nicky Carle and Bruno Cazarine remain sidelined with back problems and defender Sung-Hwan Byun is suspended.

Herbert hoped Bertos would be fit for Sunday's game against Adelaide United in Christchurch and said Ward had edged out Marco Rojas for a start because of his experience and being more match fit.

"Marco's missed eight, nine months of football through an ankle operation and he's only had two runs back with the youth team. But he's getting better and better, so that's exciting for us too."

Rojas was likely to get half an hour off the bench in place of Daniel after his exciting cameo in Saturday's 2-2 draw with Melbourne Victory.

"He's a player now that in a month's time we're probably going to consider to be in the starting XI," Herbert said.

"But he's had such a long period of football off and I just want to be careful, look after him. I think people have seen signs of why we've got him at the football club and hopefully you can see a lot more of him shortly."

Rojas, a Kiwi whose father is from Chile, caught the eye on Saturday with his pace and willingness to run at defenders and the diminutive 19-year-old was eager for more tonight.

"It was good to come on for 15 minutes and I thought I did all right," Rojas said. "I managed to touch the ball a few times and it's good for the confidence."

Rojas stands just 1.68m and weighs 63kg but soaked up a knock or two from Victory hardman Kevin Muscat at Westpac Stadium.

"The way I play, I try and stay away from all of that," Rojas said.

"It comes every now and then and I guess it's a disadvantage in a way, but football's not really about physical strength so I've never worried too much."

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Pretty interesting, well written, positive upbeat article from Sam Worthington. Again.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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bwtcf wrote:
Pretty interesting, well written, positive upbeat article from Sam Worthington. Again.
 
I wonder if any of the people quoted actually said what they are quoted as saying, or if he just made it up.  Again.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's possible. If they're gonna make stuff up though, I'd rather they made up interesting, well written positive upbeat stuff than negative tabloid beat up stuff.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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bwtcf wrote:
Pretty interesting, well written, positive upbeat article from Sam Worthington. Again.
The parties (Nix and Dom)had a chat this week and cleared the air

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
The parties (Nix and Dom)had a chat this week and cleared the air
 
Well HOO-HAR!!! That's good news...

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I reckon Marco actually told him to f*ck off.

But seriously, the kid is a midget. Same height and probably weight as Messi.
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I would have liked to see Greenacre fill in for Leo
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Apparently both TV networks talked to Marco at the airport yesterday as well.  Might be news tonight.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:
Apparently both TV networks talked to Marco at the airport yesterday as well.  Might be news tonight.
 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:
bwtcf wrote:
Pretty interesting, well written, positive upbeat article from Sam Worthington. Again.
 
I wonder if any of the people quoted actually said what they are quoted as saying, or if he just made it up.  Again.


Nice bit of paranoia, well done
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Parafact.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Factanoia.
 
I don't want to sound like more of a dick than we all know I am, but I don't think Worthington has an anti-nix agenda, I just think he's a shoddy journalist.
 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:
Factanoia.
 
I don't want to sound like more of a dick than we all know I am, but I don't think Worthington has an anti-nix agenda, I just think he's a shoddy journalist.
 
 
 
You've only got to look at the title of the publication he scribes for to know that...
 
 

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Hard News wrote:
As shoddy as the writers on ASB Premiership.com ?
 
Nobody's that bad

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
is the away zone under cover??
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Likely...


Paston

Sigmund-Durante-North-Hearfield

Muscat

Lia-Brown

Ward-Ifill-Daniel

�

Subs: Greenacre, Rojas, Musa, Vukovic

�
...Daniel not doing enough to be in the team ...no pace now and struggling to get into matches... Rojas should start for me
Daniel not doing enough to be in the team
bollocks man. He has sparked this team back to life. Nobody else has corners that go to the right place. He switches play, always trying something. Need him in the team for at least 60mins.

Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro and Wellington Phoenix, my two teams til death do us part.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Is Ifill on 4 yellows?  He better not get a 5th in this game tonight.

Good luck Phoenix!

 

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Black Plague wrote:

Likely...


Paston

Sigmund-Durante-North-Hearfield

Muscat

Lia-Brown

Ward-Ifill-Daniel

 

Subs: Greenacre, Rojas, Musa, Vukovic

 
...Daniel not doing enough to be in the team ...no pace now and struggling to get into matches... Rojas should start for me
Daniel not doing enough to be in the team
bollocks man. He has sparked this team back to life. Nobody else has corners that go to the right place. He switches play, always trying something. Need him in the team for at least 60mins.
 
We got two Daniels in the squad then?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
bwtcf wrote:
Pretty interesting, well written, positive upbeat article from Sam Worthington. Again.
The parties (Nix and Dom)had a chat this week and cleared the air
About bloody time.....this was a no win situation for all parties. I don't like it when players refuse to talk to the press. I know they had a percieved legit reason but we, the fans, would have been the losers. I look forward to reading more articles about football again.
 
It would have been good if the doom post had interviewed Musa and Rojas after their games against the Victory. I think it would have made a nice story about two kiwi youngsters making there way into the big time of A-League football(are you reading this Mr Worthington???)
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maynardf wrote:
is the away zone under cover??
 
It wasn't last time, but the zone is in a different place this time.
 
Still sh*t weather here in Sydney, not going to improve at all. Expect lots of rain.
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Black Plague wrote:

Likely...


Paston

Sigmund-Durante-North-Hearfield

Muscat

Lia-Brown

Ward-Ifill-Daniel

 

Subs: Greenacre, Rojas, Musa, Vukovic

 
...Daniel not doing enough to be in the team ...no pace now and struggling to get into matches... Rojas should start for me
Daniel not doing enough to be in the team
bollocks man. He has sparked this team back to life. Nobody else has corners that go to the right place. He switches play, always trying something. Need him in the team for at least 60mins.
  which daniel is this? you must be having a laugh?

rojas, so special

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Black Plague wrote:

Likely...


Paston

Sigmund-Durante-North-Hearfield

Muscat

Lia-Brown

Ward-Ifill-Daniel

 

Subs: Greenacre, Rojas, Musa, Vukovic

 
...Daniel not doing enough to be in the team ...no pace now and struggling to get into matches... Rojas should start for me
Daniel not doing enough to be in the team
bollocks man. He has sparked this team back to life. Nobody else has corners that go to the right place. He switches play, always trying something. Need him in the team for at least 60mins.
  which daniel is this? you must be having a laugh?

I wouldnt exactly say he has 'sparked the team back to life' but considering he is one of the few players that acts up for the crowd and spurs the fever zone on, I reckon he deserves our loyalty in return... He has never been amazing for us, I hated him the season before last as he kept cocking up, but he has been solid since. Not amazing, but not too many cock ups either.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Would rather have Ward than Daniel.

Give Rojas a half.

Ward/Rojas/Ifill - Loving that combo. All can beat ppl and create things.

What is going on with Leo Bertos? Is it a confidence thing? The guy has potential, when he decides to set his mind on attacking he can do some good stuff, but for god knows how long he makes a decent run, then turns back almost all of the time which leads to nothing. It's very frustrating watching him play.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ta a guess I say he's been carrying thie groin injury for a while, which has probably hurt his speed and confidence to try and beat people - I've been calling him out for being lazy, if it has been due to the injury then I'm sorry.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
game cancelled because of rain??

were is the fever zone for this game? going for the 1st time
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Whatever cove actually turn up on a pissing down Wednesday night. Don't imagine a massive crowd will turn up.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Pax was around 5,400 last time I read.



Away bay has been moved from the southern end.
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