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Nix v Sydney

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Nix v Sydney
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                                  Paston
Muscat           Siggy               Dura        Lochhead
                       Lia                  McKain
Diego                                                     Bertos
                 Ifill                     Greennacre
 
Bench:
Crowther
Daniel
Ferrante
Hearfield
 
I set a target out of the four games including Roar of 5 points, very tough month with Melb, Reds, Roar and Sydney. Will be satisfied with a point from this one but we need a win from one of the next three games.
 
7pm KO our time.
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I predict a win.
Simple
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Anyone know how bad Leo's injury is? If it is going to keep him out, I'd start with Daniel.
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                                  Paston
Muscat           Siggy               Dura        Lochhead
                       Lia                  McKain
Diego                                                     Bertos
                 Ifill                     Greennacre
 
Bench:
Crowther
Daniel
Ferrante
Hearfield
 
I set a target out of the four games including Roar of 5 points, very tough month with Melb, Reds, Roar and Sydney. Will be satisfied with a point from this one but we need a win from one of the next three games.
 
7pm KO our time.
 
I'm picking one change from yesterday's starting 11 - either Daniel for Diego or Lia for Ferrante. I suspect and hope it will be the later so I think your line-up will be right.
 
If he starts I hope Diego ups his game this weekend - he doesn't look like he has got out of second gear yet. I know we are only 3 games in to the season and combinations take time but it was clear from the first game that Ifill and Greenacre were very good acquisitions. Diego has yet to deliver the creativity he was signed to provide - fingers crossed he steps up against Sydney.
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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                         Paston

Muscat           Siggy               Dura        Lochhead
                     
                          McKain
                                                
Bertos                     Diego                   Daniel                                                                   

                  Ifill             Greennacre
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Same team as last week. No change.
On a little roll. No one bad enough to be dropped

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I suspect that Diego just has to put in the hard workrate to produce his best creativity. If there is a time for him to do well it should be now against Sydney.

For creative players like Daniel and Diego, it is sometimes putting the hard workrate in to get more opportunities to be creative. Creativity has an element of luck involved. This is sometmes not taught well.

As the saying says. "The more I work, the more luckier I am."

So here's hoping that they can put the hard yards expected of them.
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I was going to say put Costa on the bench instead of Daniel but on Sunday Daniel looked likely and that cross to Greenacre was excellent, so I guess I can't now... (note on Sunday the Fox commentators gave Costa some wraps).
 
Lia for Muscat is the only other change I'd consider.
 
Although they are unbeaten so far Sydney certainly look beatable. They only snuck past NQF by one goal and although I only saw bits of the Adelaide game and didn't see any of their CCM ame from reports they have looked a bit average. If we play like we did for the last 75% of the game against Brisbane then Sydney could be there for the taking.
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Yes,agree that Lia for Muscat would be the only change I'd consider
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Simon, too big a gap in the middle for me, I'd - 1 DM = Lia and +1 Midfield = Daniel/Hearfield ( maybe start with Daniel and we'll see ) and bring Diego into the centre. Drop Lia/Ferrante from the bench for Costa/Rojas.
Never know unless you try. Sometimes players can't show all they have to offer just from the training ground. Mate I was a slack as trainer lol, but still got player of the year. So give 'em a go. I'd like to see the whole squad get a run to find their feet, before the games are "too important".
Though thats easy done, just sitting here. 
I set a target out of the four games including Roar of 12 points, very tough month with Melb, Reds, Roar and Sydney. But then all games will be tough, even NQF will give us a good run for the points.  I will not be satisfied with a point from this one. Should win the next three games.
Just hope RH can focus the team, before they take the field. 
 
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Mhm, yeah, what about McKain ?
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                  Paston
          Siggy    Durante
Muscat                    Lochhead
                Mckain
Lia/Hearfield           Bertos
                Diego
          Ifill      Greenacre

subs:
Crowther
lia/Hearfield
Daniel
Costa

I think it's time to push Ferrante back out after not showing much in the last two, Costa should be on the bench this week IMO.

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good point Brown will probably be fit again so will probably start..
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auskiwi wrote:
 
Never know unless you try. Sometimes players can't show all they have to offer just from the training ground. Mate I was a slack as trainer lol, but still got player of the year. So give 'em a go. I'd like to see the whole squad get a run to find their feet, before the games are "too important".
Though thats easy done, just sitting here. 
If you're slack at training in a professional environment you don't deserve a place in the starting XI or even on the bench unless you are very well established in the team system.
 
More of an attacking 443 should be used from the start IMO
 
                          Paston
 
                Siggy          Dura
Manny                                      Lochhead
                            
                          McKain
                   Lia                                     
                                   Diego
 
 SuperLeo                                         Ifill
                         Greenacre  
 
Crowther
Ferrante
Hearfield/Costa
Daniel/Costa
 
Feeling very sorry for Costa.
You know we belong together...

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Tiatto only trains once a week and plays a game.
Stefan2009-08-24 21:52:01
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Tiatto
You know we belong together...

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Same situation for Ledley King at Spurs, quit international football because he can only train and play once a week.
You know we belong together...

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Stefan wrote:
Tiatto only trains once a week and plays a game.
Sneaky c**t.... both you and Tiatto. And tbf he is an established part of their system like I said. Say Siggy was in a similar position for us we'd probably still play him because he's become an integral part of the side.
You know we belong together...

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I wouldn't consider Tiatto to be a very well established player for the roar though.
Two and a bit seasons isnt that much.
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Oska wrote:
Stefan wrote:
Tiatto only trains once a week and plays a game.
Sneaky c**t.... both you and Tiatto. And tbf he is an established part of their system like I said. Say�Siggy was in a similar position�for us we'd probably still play him because he's become an integral part of the side.


I caught you out! Ha.
To me though. even though it hurts to say.
And ignore the obvious Position differences

If Siggy trained once a week and Daniel went to every training.
I would prefer Daniel.
To me, Someone who puts as much effort into training as they can should deserve that starting spot.
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muppet

You know we belong together...

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Come on you two. Stick to the topic.
Before this goes downhill. Stefan2009-08-24 22:07:26
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Stefan wrote:
Oska wrote:
Stefan wrote:
Tiatto only trains once a week and plays a game.
Sneaky c**t.... both you and Tiatto. And tbf he is an established part of their system like I said. Say Siggy was in a similar position for us we'd probably still play him because he's become an integral part of the side.


I caught you out! Ha.
To me though. even though it hurts to say.
And ignore the obvious Position differences

If Siggy trained once a week and Daniel went to every training.
I would prefer Daniel.
To me, Someone who puts as much effort into training as they can should deserve that starting spot.
Even if Siggy had no choice as to how much he trained? Of all the Phoenix players I'd expect Siggy to be the most keen on training as much as possible and the most frustrated when unable to.
You know we belong together...

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Thread been hi-jacked by stupid.

Conjecture and hypotheticals.  You know, we could just talk about the coming game ?

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Oska wrote:
Stefan wrote:
Oska wrote:
Stefan wrote:
Tiatto only trains once a week and plays a game.
Sneaky c**t.... both you and Tiatto. And tbf he is an established part of their system like I said. Say�Siggy was in a similar position�for us we'd probably still play him because he's become an integral part of the side.
I caught you out! Ha. To me though. even though it hurts to say. And ignore the obvious Position differences If Siggy trained once a week and Daniel went to every training. I would prefer Daniel. To me, Someone who puts as much effort into training as they can should deserve that starting spot.
Even if Siggy had no choice as to how much he trained? Of all the Phoenix players I'd expect Siggy to be the most keen on training as much as possible and the most frustrated when unable to.


I was just using your hypothetical.

My guess is that in tiatto's case though.
He trains with the team, and keeps fit outside of training.
And every week proves that he deserves a starting spot during the game.

That and he is old (For a footballer)

Enough about Tiatto though.
What was this about?

Ah yes, Phoenix V Sydney!Stefan2009-08-24 22:11:06
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Yes we could.
 
4-0 Nix, Ifill brace, Greenacre and McKain.
You know we belong together...

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Oska wrote:
Yes we could.
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4-0 Nix, Ifill brace, Greenacre and McKain.



Does that score line count as stupid dave?    Jokes oska.

2-1 to the nix is my prediction. My Spidey senses tell me its going to be close.
Sydney held central coast to a 0-0 draw at bluetongue.
I would expect a tough but good game at the SFCStefan2009-08-24 22:15:01
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4-1 to the nix. Played it on Fifa tonight.
Ifill, Greenacre, then Lia blast from outside the box 2 mins after coming on in 60th. And also supersub Hearfield last couple of mins when all the Sydney men are pushed up, the volley from China that didn't count.

Their goal is just a lucky freekick (which are figgin hard to stop on World class on fifa)


In all seriousness.
Same line up will occur to last week unless Brown is fit.
Although I would really like to see Lia considered a start. Or give him a run at RB for a point to see how he goes. Could be the attacking RB we want?


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lia has got to come in for ferrante... other than that, no changes are nessesary
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Oska wrote:
Same situation for Ledley King at Spurs, quit international football because he can only train and play once a week.
 
Really? Why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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He's got a dodgy knee that flares up after a game.  needs at least a week sometimes more for it to go down. 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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                                                                         paston
 
                                      muscat           siggy           dura           lochy
 
                                                     
                                       bertos               lia               ferrante                daniel
 
                                                                  
 
                                                   barborouses                  greenacre
 
subs
 
crowther
mckain
hearfield
rojas?
 
 
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Good news here, and makes the team pick for this week more interesting with Brown available

NZ Herald this afternoon

""Wellington Phoenix dangerman Leo Bertos has bounced back from a vicious tackle during his side's 1-1 draw against Brisbane Roar on Sunday and will be available for this weekend's A-League soccer match away against Sydney.

A shudder went through the Phoenix ranks when setpiece specialist Bertos was upended in a late sliding tackle from behind by a frustrated Roar striker Robbie Kruse in the dying minutes of the match

Bertos, who snatched the winner over Perth Glory with a 40m freekick for a 2-1 home win in their previous match, was struck in the right calf and struggled to get up.

However, a club spokesman told NZPA today that Bertos, who has been in sparkling form, appeared to have no lingering effects.

There were no injury problems for the club, with striker Paul Ifill, who started the Roar match with a niggle, expected to be fit for Sydney, the spokesman said.

Midfielder Tim Brown did not travel for the Roar match because of a groin injury but he too was expected to be available, the spokesman added.""

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                                                                         paston
 
                                      muscat           siggy           dura           lochy
 
                                                     
                                       bertos               lia               ferrante                daniel
 
                                                                  
 
                                                   barborouses                  greenacre
 
subs
 
crowther
mckain
hearfield
rojas?
 
 


Ahem...


How's my driving? - Whine here

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kad9 wrote:
   
                                                                         paston
 
                                      muscat           siggy           dura           lochy
 
                                                     
                                       bertos               lia               ferrante                daniel
 
                                                                  
 
                                                   barborouses                  greenacre
 
subs
 
crowther
mckain
hearfield
rojas?
 
puppet, why on earth would you exclude Ifill?
 
 
 
 

Queenslander 3x a year.

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...clearly Costa must offer more in attack... and we clearly don't need a proper DM either... I guess it is only Sydney...




E + R + O

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Isn't this the week we play our new, Chinese, import?
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