Wellington Phoenix Men

Nix v WS Wanderers Sun 13th 4.30pm

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about 13 years ago

aitkenmike wrote:

Ard Choille wrote:

Hard News wrote:

The same Paston who was MOTM in Brisbane?

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MOTM. You gotta be joking

MOM V Brisbane Round 14
Mark PASTON 52%
Manny MUSCAT 3%
Tony LOCHHEAD 0%
Leo BERTOS 3%
Jeremy BROCKIE 15%
Tyler BOYD 21%
Louis FENTON 0%
Vince LIA 0%
Ben SIGMUND 0%
Dani SANCHEZ 0%
Andrew DURANTE 6%
Alexander SMITH 0%
Benjamin TOTORI 0%
Stein HUYSEGEMS 0%

 

Subjective voting may not be a true reflection on who was in fact man of the match. In previous voting fans would vote for who they liked rather than using hard cold stats

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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about 13 years ago

paullt wrote:

aitkenmike wrote:

Ard Choille wrote:

Hard News wrote:

The same Paston who was MOTM in Brisbane?

[/quote]

MOTM. You gotta be joking

MOM V Brisbane Round 14
Mark PASTON 52%
Manny MUSCAT 3%
Tony LOCHHEAD 0%
Leo BERTOS 3%
Jeremy BROCKIE 15%
Tyler BOYD 21%
Louis FENTON 0%
Vince LIA 0%
Ben SIGMUND 0%
Dani SANCHEZ 0%
Andrew DURANTE 6%
Alexander SMITH 0%
Benjamin TOTORI 0%
Stein HUYSEGEMS 0%

 

Subjective voting may not be a true reflection on who was in fact man of the match. In previous voting fans would vote for who they liked rather than using hard cold stats

I think it was quite apparent that Paston was not very well liked around here before the Brisbane game, and if he was liked, there was certainly not enough people to give him more than half the votes. Since he has such a clear lead, I would say that it is statistically probably that he is considered the man of the match for the game.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 13 years ago

goldienz wrote:

Agree with the Waffles in AM sentiment. Sanchez is good there too, but it gives us some options. Not so sure about him on the wing though TBH.



He played winger in Holland...

 

Just realised most Welly based fans only have 4 more home games....should market that aspect more..........

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

paullt wrote:

aitkenmike wrote:

Ard Choille wrote:

Hard News wrote:

The same Paston who was MOTM in Brisbane?

[/quote]

MOTM. You gotta be joking

MOM V Brisbane Round 14
Mark PASTON 52%
Manny MUSCAT 3%
Tony LOCHHEAD 0%
Leo BERTOS 3%
Jeremy BROCKIE 15%
Tyler BOYD 21%
Louis FENTON 0%
Vince LIA 0%
Ben SIGMUND 0%
Dani SANCHEZ 0%
Andrew DURANTE 6%
Alexander SMITH 0%
Benjamin TOTORI 0%
Stein HUYSEGEMS 0%

 

Subjective voting may not be a true reflection on who was in fact man of the match. In previous voting fans would vote for who they liked rather than using hard cold stats

I think it was quite apparent that Paston was not very well liked around here before the Brisbane game, and if he was liked, there was certainly not enough people to give him more than half the votes. Since he has such a clear lead, I would say that it is statistically probably that he is considered the man of the match for the game.

you may well be right patrick, was referring to the old man of the match voting when votes when to all and sundry depending on the whim of the individual voting

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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about 13 years ago · edited about 13 years ago · History

paullt wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

paullt wrote:

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Subjective voting may not be a true reflection on who was in fact man of the match. In previous voting fans would vote for who they liked rather than using hard cold stats

I think it was quite apparent that Paston was not very well liked around here before the Brisbane game, and if he was liked, there was certainly not enough people to give him more than half the votes. Since he has such a clear lead, I would say that it is statistically probably that he is considered the man of the match for the game.

you may well be right patrick, was referring to the old man of the match voting when votes when to all and sundry depending on the whim of the individual voting

yeah I think the voting this season has been very reflective of how well players have been performing on the pitch. Although that is my subjective opinion though... so who knows.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 13 years ago

This will be Vinnie Lia's 99th Nix appearance.

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about 13 years ago

Thanks for all your suggestions. I have bitten the bullet and paid for my own ticket. Hopefully will bring a few new-to-the-Fever-Zone acquaintances. See you there.


Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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about 13 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Thanks for all your suggestions. I have bitten the bullet and paid for my own ticket. Hopefully will bring a few new-to-the-Fever-Zone acquaintances. See you there.

Coming to The Pub beforehand?

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Doloras wrote:

Thanks for all your suggestions. I have bitten the bullet and paid for my own ticket. Hopefully will bring a few new-to-the-Fever-Zone acquaintances. See you there.

Coming to The Pub beforehand?


I have business beforehand, so it depends on how quickly that business wraps up.


Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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about 13 years ago

The match will be televised on Sky Sport Highlights, which means no HD. Big thumbs down to Sky.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 13 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Thanks for all your suggestions. I have bitten the bullet and paid for my own ticket. Hopefully will bring a few new-to-the-Fever-Zone acquaintances. See you there.

well done...

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 13 years ago

If we lose this it'll be honking.  Must win.

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about 13 years ago

Stevo wrote:

If we lose this it'll be honking.  Must win.

Incorrect usage of the 'honking' term there Stevo.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 13 years ago

 Regardless of his total goals, Brockie would lucky to get a game this week after his performance against Melbourne last Sat.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 13 years ago


I hope he watched Smeltzy bury that header

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 13 years ago


I hope he watched Smeltzy bury that header



Lets hope so.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 13 years ago

Leggy wrote:

 Regardless of his total goals, Brockie would lucky to get a game this week after his performance against Melbourne last Sat.


You can see how Brockie frustrated his way out of the Jets. Seems to coast his way through games and then just when everyone is on his case he scores a screamer or two and that shuts everyone up for a few games, were he does SFA, and then the pressure mounts and he scores again. Hard to drop anyone who is near top of the A-League golden boot though. If he had not provided the goals for us you do wonder where else they would have come from! Would be nice to see him get an assist one day.
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about 13 years ago

austin10 wrote:

Leggy wrote:

 Regardless of his total goals, Brockie would lucky to get a game this week after his performance against Melbourne last Sat.


You can see how Brockie frustrated his way out of the Jets. Seems to coast his way through games and then just when everyone is on his case he scores a screamer or two and that shuts everyone up for a few games, were he does SFA, and then the pressure mounts and he scores again. Hard to drop anyone who is near top of the A-League golden boot though. If he had not provided the goals for us you do wonder where else they would have come from! Would be nice to see him get an assist one day.
He's the Martin Guptill of the Nix

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 13 years ago

As much as he lacked the defensive... 'prowess' of Manny I thought Dani offered a lot more in taking the ball off the back 4 and linking with our attacking players, an area that I find Manny lacks in.
If only we had a Dani Muscat or a Manny Sanchez...

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about 13 years ago

Their celebrity couple name is muschez FYI 


Allegedly

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about 13 years ago

I prefer Sancat.

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about 13 years ago

As long as we are playing Dr Frankenstein...

If only we could combine the best bits of Huysegems and Boyd.


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about 13 years ago

Boysegems?

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about 13 years ago

Sackofspuds wrote:

As much as he lacked the defensive... 'prowess' of Manny I thought Dani offered a lot more in taking the ball off the back 4 and linking with our attacking players, an area that I find Manny lacks in.
If only we had a Dani Muscat or a Manny Sanchez...

or we could play a 4-2-3-1 with the two of them as the DMs

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 13 years ago

Sackofspuds wrote:

Boysegems?

Huysegoyd!!
The undead aenamatronic cyborg, genetically engineered goal scoring demon resurrected from the past and sent back in time...
To WIN!

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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about 13 years ago

asmodeus_82 wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

Boysegems?

Huysegoyd!!
The undead aenamatronic cyborg, genetically engineered goal scoring demon resurrected from the past and sent back in time...
To WIN!

You need to get out more...lol
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about 13 years ago

sanchez played a deep-lying playmaker's role, more pirlo than manny, funny to see so many using Sanchez and DM in the same sentence...


Thought it was very promising though. If we want dani to stay there and have someone else play ahead of him centrally, I'd choose fenton. Although he can be a little naive in possession he does apparently have the control and passing range to do it - I'm sure when we signed him I watched some youtube video of him in the states or something and he was playing in midfield?

Also don't think he has the pace to be a long term winger, even at this level. 


As a side note It's a common arsene wenger ploy to put young central mids out wide for a season or two to develop their game  without the positional pressure of central midfield, then shift them inside afterward (eg Rosicky and Diaby a few seasons back, Ramsey right now, he also hinted he was going to do it with Wilshere in 2010/11 but injuries prevented it).

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about 13 years ago

austin10 wrote:

Leggy wrote:

 Regardless of his total goals, Brockie would lucky to get a game this week after his performance against Melbourne last Sat.


You can see how Brockie frustrated his way out of the Jets. Seems to coast his way through games and then just when everyone is on his case he scores a screamer or two and that shuts everyone up for a few games, were he does SFA, and then the pressure mounts and he scores again. Hard to drop anyone who is near top of the A-League golden boot though. If he had not provided the goals for us you do wonder where else they would have come from! Would be nice to see him get an assist one day.

He's the Martin Guptill of the Nix

More like our own Dimitar Berbatov

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about 13 years ago

Don't think it matters what formation or who plays, until we get a dominate centre mid like Broich and an out and out goal scorer we will always struggle. we have been lucky to get by with what we have.

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about 13 years ago

Apparently Boyd in, Totori out. Smith stays on bench and Huysegems still starts


More attack


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about 13 years ago

playwithFire wrote:

Apparently Boyd in, Totori out. Smith stays on bench and Huysegems still starts


More attack

Hope in that 4-1-3-2 we started the season with. If Ricki plays the 4-3-3 again from last weekend the forums might have a meltdown. Brockie is not, and will never been an AM.
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about 13 years ago

but huysegems could be...


Dont think Lia by himself covers enough ground defensively


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about 13 years ago · edited about 13 years ago · History

paulm wrote:

sanchez played a deep-lying playmaker's role, more pirlo than manny, funny to see so many using Sanchez and DM in the same sentence...


Thought it was very promising though. If we want dani to stay there and have someone else play ahead of him centrally, I'd choose fenton. Although he can be a little naive in possession he does apparently have the control and passing range to do it - I'm sure when we signed him I watched some youtube video of him in the states or something and he was playing in midfield?

Also don't think he has the pace to be a long term winger, even at this level. 


As a side note It's a common arsene wenger ploy to put young central mids out wide for a season or two to develop their game  without the positional pressure of central midfield, then shift them inside afterward (eg Rosicky and Diaby a few seasons back, Ramsey right now, he also hinted he was going to do it with Wilshere in 2010/11 but injuries prevented it).

I was using the term DM simply to indicate a midfielder who plays deep, ie: one of the '2' in a 4-2-3-1. As far as I see it a defensive midfielder is a position, a deep lying playmaker is a style of player. I'd call the style of defensive midfielder whose primary duties a tackling and breaking up attacks a holding midfielder. Which is why I'd play Muscat and Sanchez side by side - a holding  midfielder and a deep lying playmaker as two defensive midfielders to balance each other out. 

edit: although obviously with Muscat still suspended Smith or Lia would have to do

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 13 years ago

austin10 wrote:

Leggy wrote:

 Regardless of his total goals, Brockie would lucky to get a game this week after his performance against Melbourne last Sat.


You can see how Brockie frustrated his way out of the Jets. Seems to coast his way through games and then just when everyone is on his case he scores a screamer or two and that shuts everyone up for a few games, were he does SFA, and then the pressure mounts and he scores again. Hard to drop anyone who is near top of the A-League golden boot though. If he had not provided the goals for us you do wonder where else they would have come from! Would be nice to see him get an assist one day.

He's the Martin Guptill of the Nix

More like our own Dimitar Berbatov



Love that  Gooner, except Brockie could not lace his boots.LOL

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 13 years ago

playwithFire wrote:

Apparently Boyd in, Totori out. Smith stays on bench and Huysegems still starts


More attack

Hope in that 4-1-3-2 we started the season with. If Ricki plays the 4-3-3 again from last weekend the forums might have a meltdown. Brockie is not, and will never been an AM.

 

Surely, if we play the same team Stein and Brockie have to swap. As you say Brockie is not a AM's A-hole. Stein however looks like he could play there. Good feet, passes well. It is certainly worth a try. WSW have one of the best defenses in the League....we really need someone skillful to back up Sanchez centrally. Its the missing piece from last weeks formation.

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about 13 years ago

playwithFire wrote:

but huysegems could be...


Dont think Lia by himself covers enough ground defensively

We might like to see Waffles play the role, but all depends on what Ricki tells the players. He gave Brockie that role last time, so you would guess he would do that again.

We really should be adapting our formation to the players we have available, rather than trying to shoehorn players into one.
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about 13 years ago

I thought last week was interesting in that while we controlled possession in the first half we never controlled the game.  We're not at all convincing because we always look like we could give the ball away at any time which leaves us vulnerable.  It's obvious our midfield isn't good enough so it's weird we haven't looked to strengthen in that area.  Is Hogg available for this one?

Normo's coming home

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about 13 years ago · edited about 13 years ago · History

Hogg is not available until the 13th.


Edit Sorry 14th.

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