Nix vs CCM, 11th Nov 4:30pm (+ T'Dubs vs. Canterbury curtain raiser)

What he say?

except to crowd numbers....halve ticket prices to get more back for 2 Dec game.

Where are the stat's -for say the last 4 years-table position after 6 round to back up "we are crap" 

Where are the stat's -for say the last 4 years-table position after 6 round to back up "we are crap" 

I really hope Dani Sanchez can be our saving grace. If this losing streak continues I'd be tempted to bring in Cameron Lindsay (finally)

League table thread has either a pessimistic or optimistic view.......other years had more promise I think...and given this was our 1 home game in the middle of two lots of two aways I think we deserved better. 

We are below Sydney on the table.

don't think we need to say any more than that.

So we should be pleased we were not destroyed? Is that what we aspire to now?

I can accept losing when there's been entertainment on offer and a bit of fight on show, but todays loss was poor. CCM didnt do a whole lot but they are the away team, and they won.

Team choice for MOM Louis Fenton.      6 games in with new Stein, Louis, Brookie and Smith, Manny, Leo playing different places. Be constructive not destructive. If Lyndsay showed what Fenton does in training do you think he would be not even be on bench?

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Team choice for MOM Louis Fenton.      6 games in with new Stein, Louis, Brookie and Smith, Manny, Leo playing different places. Be constructive not destructive. If Lyndsay showed what Fenton does in training do you think he would be not even be on bench?

I like our players but they don't seem to be very smart.  I thought having a bigger squad would make players fight for positions, but it appears that isn't the case.    I think we need to mix things up a bit, if Lindsay is fit, give him a go.  hell even chuck Downey in there.

Interesting how both Wellington teams lost by the same margin.

It is Ricki who is choosing to play these players in the wrong position!

I agree when I first saw the goal I thought Paston was very slow out and could have shut down McBreen earlier.

\some of the passing was terrible today, there was no cohesion to any of the play and ultimately we payed the price. I thought Stein was probably our best player today and was a tad surprised when Ricki took him off...Brockie was poor again today

Random offensive t-shirt humour 

Hope this helps lift the dispiritedness around here.

Random offensive t-shirt humour 

Hope this helps lift the dispiritedness around here.

 Brockie is a lazy piece of shit. Needs an effin good kick up the bum.

 time to move on?

 Ive noticed Stein also seems to be on a different wave length than everyone else. Keeps making runs one way and we put a through ball the other way, or he'll do the same.

Herbert's comments postgame in the Dom-Post this morning are alarming. Good piece by Hamish Bidwell. CCM never looked like losing. Classical away performance. They doubled up on defence, had every move covered, knew they just had to be patient and the chances would come and they did. That Herbert doesn't see that - and react now with changeup tactics - then this will be a long haul. Ultimately though, the fans will decide what they think of it all - and owners won't be putting up with crowds of 4,000, because that's where we're headed right now.

I noticed that as well, and not just with Waffles. Often a number of runners moving quickly into good space with an arm in the air but the through ball rarely gets sent early while they are still chasing our runs. Usually there is a cut back and pass the other way - or backwards - giving them time to mark up. Its harder for players at ground level to see the gaps we all see but on having a look at videos after the match maybe the guys can get a sense of how everyone is moving and try a few. That goes for crosses as well where so many times it floats past the back post where nobody seems to ever lurk....

Contrary to a lot of opinions I thought it was a pretty even game and that it could have gone either way - that it why it was so damn frustrating. We had some chances as well - and it was against top of the league team which got 7 goals in its last outinng.... It wasn't like the Melbourne game where we were definitely far second.

Thought the ref did really well. Nice change.

I think much of the angst that is being expressed is down to the fact after the Sydney game we were pretty hopeful that this season we might get away to a good start playing what looked like it might be some nice football.However what has been dished up in the last few games is below standard and i fear for what the crowds may be if they dont somehow manage something in the upcoming away games.

Sadly 6 seasons in and we seem to be making the same bloody mistakes, as a fan it is getting so FKN frustrating.

Herbert mentions in Sydney Daily Telegraph this morning re replacement Sydney coach.

"The shortlist identified then was Graham Arnold, Ange Postecoglou and Ricki Herbert, and it's believed that the first reaction within the club is that a domestic option remains the optimum path.

Other candidates could include former Melbourne Victory coach Ernie Merrick, who worked with Cole for years and has just left a role with the Hong Kong FA, ex-Gold Coast duo Miron Bleiberg and Mike Mulvey, and former Socceroos and Brisbane Roar head Frank Farina.

Arnold remains highly thought of, but the way his decision to remain at the Mariners was communicated by Sydney FC annoyed him at the time."

Ifill has forgotten how to be a winger. He would never make positive runs forward. Not running.

Whenever Lochhead got the ball, Ifill would move centrally and Lochhead would have no one at tall to pass to out wide.

If Ifill is starting, it needs to be up top for me

 not a single shot fired in anger, so dissapointing

Yep, I was screaming for him to get off his line, but he didnt.

Rogic was great here though, a couple of moments of class was all it took

Paston on the whole is p[retty slow to move, possibly cos he is old and getting to the "past it" point, the back four looked ok except both siggy and Dura pushed forward in the Mcbreen goal leaving noone in the centre - I blame siggy's over enthusiasm for this, he was often well past the half way point when he should be beack supporting the centre mids not playing as one!

This week we need to replace paston with moss, get Brockie on the wing and play Ifill up front with Stein!

I thought Bertos was one of the only ones who had a good game yesterday ! He did well defensively and was trying hard to make things happen going forward

It's getting a bit like Arsenal, isn't it? Each season there is renewed hope that this time you'll win something and once again the club's long term coach fails to deliver. I think RH should stick to the AW and let someone else have a go at the Phoenix. He seems to have run out of ideas and is just shuffling the pack not playing to a strategic game plan. It would probably mean an overseas coach which wouldn't be a bad thing - a fresh pair of eyes run over all the players. I think Ifill has had his day, Lochhead is well past sell-by and Totari never was.

I still can't understand why Aaron Clapham isn't in the squad, was anyone from the Nix watching him in the curtain raiser?

I don't think anyone would mind a mid-table struggle for the Phoenix if, as you say, the team was chock full of young New Zealand talent. Herbert is not the coach for that. I know it's a real long shot but I like what Declan Edge is doing with youngsters at Waikato.

Cheer up everyone.