Some stats about the refs who have controlled Phoenix and knights games.
.ombined Stats
Name G W D L Y R
Ben Williams 9 1 4 4 22 1
Peter Green 11 2 3 6 26 1
Peter O'Leary 7 1 1 5 9 1
Matthew Breeze 5 1 0 4 11 1
Simon Pzydacz 8 2 1 5 18 1
Serbre Delovski 3 2 0 1 9 0
Craig Zetter 5 1 0 4 3 0
Mark Shield 2 0 1 1 8 0
Kevin Docherty 2 1 0 1 5 0
Angelo Nardi 6 0 1 5 11 0
Neil Fox 3 0 0 3 4 0
James Lewis 1 0 1 0 2 0
Perry Mur 2 0 1 1 1 0
Nix
Ben Williams 5 0 3 2 14 1 (includesw last nights game)
Peter Green 6 1 2 3 19 1
Peter O'Leary 1 0 0 1 2 0
Matthew Breeze 2 1 0 1 7 1
Simon Pzydacz 2 1 0 1 5 0
Serbre Delovski 2 2 0 0 5 0
Craig Zetter 2 0 0 2 3 0
Kevin Docherty 1 0 0 1 2 0
Mark Shield 1 0 1 0 4 0
I hope Serbre Delovski does a few of our games this year.
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nice work! Ben Williams was terrible lats year, it doesn't look as though he's improved!
Queenslander 3x a year.
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Given the very low number of wins accumulated by New Zealand sides over the 64 A-League rounds looking at the number of wins/draws/losses doesn't prove much other than we've had quite a lot of the last two.
It is interesting to note the number of cards dished out by Green and Williams however. Can we find out how many of those cards were given to Knights/Phoenix players?
It is interesting to note the number of cards dished out by Green and Williams however. Can we find out how many of those cards were given to Knights/Phoenix players?
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Given the very low number of wins accumulated by New Zealand sides over the 64 A-League rounds looking at the number of wins/draws/losses doesn't prove much other than we've had quite a lot of the last two.
It is interesting to note the number of cards dished out by Green and Williams however. Can we find out how many of those cards were given to Knights/Phoenix players?
It is interesting to note the number of cards dished out by Green and Williams however. Can we find out how many of those cards were given to Knights/Phoenix players?
Nix stats is the bottom list, the top list is a combined of nix/Knights
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I think Lemon was after which team the cards were given to.
Interesting also that Shields is the number one ranked referee and we've only had him once.
Hard News2008-08-18 16:01:38
Interesting also that Shields is the number one ranked referee and we've only had him once.
Hard News2008-08-18 16:01:38
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I think Lemon was after which team the cards were given to.
Interesting also that Shields is the number one ranked referee and we've only had him once.
Interesting also that Shields is the number one ranked referee and we've only had him once.
Pretty much. If a significantly higher number of the cards given out by say Williams, were given to Knights/Nix players then I'll gladly join News in his Williams baiting.
Critical_Lemon2008-08-18 16:07:56
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seems to me that we've had an Ben Williams and Peter Green more than we deserve.......both with an average of 3 yellows dished out per game!
Queenslander 3x a year.
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I think Lemon was after which team the cards were given to.
Will do next time baby sleeping.
Interesting also that Shields is the number one ranked referee and we've only had him once.
Interesting also that Shields is the number one ranked referee and we've only had him once.
Save him for the big games ie when sydney or tards are playing
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We must not be a BIG game team in the eyes of the officials. I don't agree but if we make the finals it should change and we won't have to put up with Ben Williams.
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seems to me that we've had an Ben Williams and Peter Green more than we deserve.......both with an average of 3 yellows dished out per game!
3 Yellows a game average is pretty low really, given how physical the league is and there were occaisions last night where I really thought a card was deserved and or coming and they didn't.
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The yellows shown are just for the kiwi teams. Does not include rival team.
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Ahh, thank you. The way you put it in the first post it looked like match stats, not stats for the NZ teams only. Well, now I am very annoyed with Williams and Green.
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I wonder how much notice the FFA take of this?
You know we belong together...
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Not much me thinks. The refs get assessed during the season and i guess they would have a review at seasons end, but same crap each season with certain refs!
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The ref standard is similar to the league standard, unfortunately. The worse the league, the worse the ref's.
sh*t refs are prominent throughout lower leagues in England... they make this load of mugs look competent.
Wolfben2008-08-18 17:47:13
sh*t refs are prominent throughout lower leagues in England... they make this load of mugs look competent.
Wolfben2008-08-18 17:47:13
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The ref in last nights game good.
As for the lino's, I think you need to be a.d.d to be one of those, thank goodness they arent the refs cause they dont have a clue.
A dog with a bone :)
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Surely it's only fair to make sure that the officials are distributed so that they are in charge of each teams home fixtures an equal (or close to it) number of times...we shouldn't have a situation where we keep getting Ben Williams...especially as yellow cards = suspensions and some refs are way more card happy. All we want is a decent referee.
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To be fair, I'm happy to have Green over Breeze. Breeze simply can't referee and Green is their number 2 now. Hell even the Aussies acknowledge that. At least no-one is complaining about Oleary.
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I'm pretty sure our abuse of the referees doesn't help our situation...
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Because we're the only side that get stuck in to the officials...
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Sack Ben Williams!
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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I wonder what his stats for Nix games are now?
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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Was wondering if there is anyway to lodge a protest to the FFA?
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Was wondering if there is anyway to lodge a protest to the FFA?
Hahahaha.
Yeah they'll care.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Nothing they can do. FFA can only overturn mistaken identity and violence not seen by the ref.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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But as a result of his inept performance, they can drop him to reserve game for any length of time desired. Preferably, the rest of this and next season.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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ffa would never listen to a fans complaint . unless maybe a player got his genitals out
I LOVE LAMP
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What reserve grade? You are missing the point.
He is going to a WC, there is no reserve grade, nothing will happen because it was not a case of violence missed or mistaken identity.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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If Ben Williams gets appointed to a game next week I will be gobsmacked. Deserves the rest of the season off.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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I'd happily put some money into the kitty to cover an ffa fine again. Dura has missed his chance. Let's go ernie!
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Ben Williams being torn to pieces on Facebook. Think there's 2 people in Australia sticking up for him
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You have to wonder if he is the fall guy for the FFA not wanting a NZ team in the finals due to gate and tv revenue....
Tinfoil Hat Time
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But as a result of his inept performance, they can drop him to reserve game for any length of time desired. Preferably, the rest of this and next season.
not long enough if you care to ask me
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You have to wonder if he is the fall guy for the FFA not wanting a NZ team in the finals due to gate and tv revenue....
Tinfoil Hat Time
I guess they wouldn't want the JamTards in either then based on that assumption.
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His blind and deaf .. he's an A-league ref
Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
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Was wondering if there is anyway to lodge a protest to the FFA?
Hahahaha.
Yeah they'll care.
To any outsider, investors, prominent players from overseas, coaches from overseas that sort of refereeing makes the whole league look
a) corrupt
b) farcical
c) both.
No professional league would be happy with that standard of officiating. Say what you like the A league grows in ability season by season and the match officials need to reflect that as well. So yes I reckon even Kiwi-hating Aussies who work in FFA would be embarrassed by that performance tonight.
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