Phoenix Transfer - speculation (Part 1)

so would killen 

More than likely injured most of the season? So he had a string of unlucky injuries, that doesn't mean that he is going to be injured for most of this season. Thats just negetive thinking

What? News has been ruled out as too expensive by Tony P? lol

no he's a stranger thing

bring back Neil Emblen!

Draper is in talks.  Met him at the airport two and a half weeks ago and had a chinwag with him about it.

Did he say anything about lack of game time? I'd be increasingly frustrated if I were him. Hell I get frustrated when I'm on the sideline on a saturday afternoon.

Sorry to all Draper-lovers, but I think that Draper should not be re-signed. He is just taking up a squad place and a place in the salary cap. He hasnt had any game time this whole season FFS

You are just asking to be banned.

Still. We should get a youth who will at least get some game time in one season. Unless Draper was injured, then he must have just been performing badly. He's taking up valuable space.

Yes agreed we should sign Peverly for next season. He could start as having two youth players in the same position just doesn't work for us.

No, I'll just ring his parents and explain what a serial pest he is being.  Should sort that out.

Didn't bring up his lack of gametime as I didn't know if he'd be unhappy with me talking about it.  And people mention he didn't get any gametime this season, but that, in my opinion, is the fault of Ricki.  I rate Draper above Costa but Costa got 3 or 4 appearances.

Also if we get a youth team Draper will be perfect for it.

No he's not taking up valuable space. If it really was a problem they could make him U23 Marquee and then it wouldn't matter.

Best news I've heard all day (haven't heard much good news today). If we let Drapes go/he doesn't re-sign, we're in the unenviable task of having to find two more youth player next season. And if we don't get that youth team we so desperately want and need, I can't see too many quality youth players from Aus lining up to join us ahead of the other 9 teams, where they can get actual game time.  Even if we did sign Pevs, we'd still need another youth player.

Fine... Im bowing to what the public wants to hear...

Draper should stay IMO. lol

why are you against him? Who would you have in his place? Just curious, not trying to get at you 

Not against him personally at all. Just thinking that we might be able to get another youth who offers more to the first team. Full Stop. If he had gametime and played sufficiently I would be all for his re-signing.

Kapiche?
Torne2009-01-27 19:16:42

Each to their own I suppose. I'm not sure what the story has been with him this season, but I have to say from what I saw of him pre-seson for the under 23s against Chile, I thought he might have got some more game time, and is probably wrth retaining. Besides which, he scored a few goals against NZFC sides (admitedly so did Kwas and Mulligan, but hey, Drapes got more), and he obviously  impressed Stu Jacobs enought to go to Beijing when Pelter pulled out.

So there we go, both sides of the argument Feel free to join our side of the argument  

your reasoning is good. i submit. lol

Halswell. I am currently in the Pres B comp though cause I can only play every 2nd week for a good chunk of the season. (Just in case Tony P is looking, I rate myself at RB although I guess everybody would have a similar story ).
timmymadden2009-01-27 19:45:07

I think Draper should be resigned

My reasoning is that we have invested 2 years of time, money, salary and resources to make him a better player and we have no idea what the kid can do because we haven't seen him. To not resign him would be basically saying 'you've peaked, you can't go any further' and without game time to prove that, thats a very hard statement to justify. If the nix release him, I doubt he would end up at another A League club.

He is a youth player, he is a project and he is not an expensive commodity (I'm guessing) in terms of cap hold. If he was 35, sure, scrap it, but the lad is 20. Keep perserving since he has had 2 years exposure to the nix where as a new youth player, you'd have to start over again in terms of molding him. He is also basically the 23rd squad player so why ditch him to bring in another kid whom would most likely be the 23rd player....

I'd like to see Kwasnik and Plodder kept too. Kwasi had hardly any game time to show his abilitiy with Smeltz in such fine form. Form which I hope deserts him next season when he plays against us!

Rumour is kwasnik isnt staying

Fully agree on re-signing Poldder, the guy is versatile, and I feel far too valuable a squad player to let go. Kwas... I'm not too sure about, we have a fair few attacking midfielders now Costa is coming good, and throw Diego and maybe Fred in there, I feel we can afford to let Kwas go, and open up his spot for a real striker.

Good man. Not that I thought my reasoning was that strong, Agent 47's put me to shame!
Leeds_Chris2009-01-27 20:07:05

good points on Kwas, in particular the last part, he was bought to cover Smeltz, but we found out pretty quick that he's rubbish through the middle.

I disagree on Plodder, I think we should only sign players that could make the starting team. PLayers I want brought in for this season are:
2 Strikers
1 LB to push Lochhead
1 AM if it is good e.g Fred
1 CB Most likely Dodd.
1 Wide player.

2 of these would be youth aswell.

Scottishbhoy2009-01-27 21:40:40

Peverley is a midfielder I think he is LM, probably wrong can anyone correct me?

Aye, i have no idea who pevs is

Defensive midfielder or Centre Back.

Can't see Fred as an option, DC would be mad to release him and that is the only way he would be available.

Midfielder in one of the youth NZ teams was pretty good and Nelsen reckons the same aswell.

Scottishbhoy2009-01-27 21:49:27