You're allowed 23, but I think we're looking to have around 20-21.
Two more strikers, a keeper, and some youth will complete the squad.
Phoenix Transfer - speculation (Part 1)
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didn't paston sign on for one more year not long ago ?
i Know he hasn't had much chances this season i'd like to see Kwasnik resigned for next season also
i Know he hasn't had much chances this season i'd like to see Kwasnik resigned for next season also
#2) Jeremy Christie
#5) Karl Dodd
#8) Vaughan Coveny
#9) Shane Smeltz
#12) Richard Johnson
#15) Adam Kwasnik
#19) Greg Draper
#20) Glen Moss
Which of these players will we keep surely we cant keep all of them
My crystal ball;
We will sign 21 and keep 2 spots open (allowed up to 23 + guest player) because; baring a catastrophe numbers 22 and 23 would never get any game time; gives us options if someone doesn't work out and means we can spend more on a better 2nd striker - assuming the first striker is marquee.
We have signed 15 and have yet to sign a 2nd keeper and 2 strikers. We also need to sign another centre back - presumably Dodd but if not him someone else - we can't run the risk of having to play McKain at centre back if Durante or Sigmung get injured or suspended - McKain is too valuable at DM. Those 4 make a total of 19.
We also have to have 3 under 20s - Costa one and Draper could be a 2nd - not sure of the cut off date. But you would have to ask why re-sign Draper - no game time in 2 years. I'd like to see us sign another under 20 striker and an under 20 DM or full back - whichever isn't going to be Lia's intended position.
Net result; no room for any of Christie, Johnson (who will surely retire anyway), Kwasnik or Draper. Johnson's reached his best by date, Draper never gets on the park, with Diego, Leo, Daniel and Hearfield Kwasnik wouldn't get any game time - based on this years form, and same for Christie with defenders already signed. A versatile defender (e.g. Christie) is useful but Mulligan (for better or worse) has that spot contracted (unless ....).
Whitby boy2009-01-23 17:28:36He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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assuming the first striker is marquee [/QUOTE]
That's a pretty big assumption.
That's a pretty big assumption.
Not really - I would expect our number 1 striker to be our highest paid player and therefore, to manage the salary cap, he would be designated our marquee.
Hopefully he will be marquee in not only salary cap status but also ability - which is probably the point you were making.
[QUOTE=martinb]whitby..Costa only just got on the park though. I don't think it is a given that Drapes will be jetisonned. We may even see a youth team, of which you would think he certainly would be a part.
Sign him up to the youth team by all means but why sign him up for the senior team - he is never going to get on the park.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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I'd release Mulligan from his contract. It would be better for the club and the player. The club frees a spot for recruitment and Mulligan gets to see if he can find a club where he's going to play some football. Otherwise, I'd say it's going to be another lean season for him.
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TBH mulligan hasn't had a fair shot.. I think johnson got to go and bring in Salley as he wouldn't be an import
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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assuming the first striker is marquee [/QUOTE]
That's a pretty big assumption.
That's a pretty big assumption.
Not really - I would expect our number 1 striker to be our highest paid player and therefore, to manage the salary cap, he would be designated our marquee.
Hopefully he will be marquee in not only salary cap status but also ability - which is probably the point you were making.
[QUOTE=martinb]whitby..Costa only just got on the park though. I don't think it is a given that Drapes will be jetisonned. We may even see a youth team, of which you would think he certainly would be a part.
Sign him up to the youth team by all means but why sign him up for the senior team - he is never going to get on the park.
If we don't have a youth team though we have to fill a quota of 3 youth (under 21 I think) players?
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And I think we should get rid of Johnson but keep Draper, Kwasnik and possibly Christie.� I agree with somebody earlier that Mulligan should be given another shot
I agree. He should get a shot. Out of a cannon, aimed as far away from Wellington as possible.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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And I think we should get rid of Johnson but keep Draper, Kwasnik and possibly Christie.� I agree with somebody earlier that Mulligan should be given another shot
I agree. He should get a shot. Out of a cannon, aimed as far away from Wellington as possible.
If only the NZ army had one. Totally agree Mulligan looked like a panic buy when Lia injured his knee and now that Manny has turned out to be a gem and with Lia back all Mulligan is doing is taking a squad spot off someone who might contribute more and with a better attitude.
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I would suggest that unless we know something about his attitude, that we don't comment. We can call him a rubbish A-League footballer because we have seen him at that level, but unless someone has something concrete, lets not comment on his attitude.
I remember a post similar to this last year about Pies El**ch and the general feedback was that he was a really good squad man with a great attitude, just hated losing and never played like he could. From the outside, he looked like a right stuck up c**t and was surprised to hear otherwise. For all we know Mulligan maybe a great squad man so lets leave it out.
And no I'm not a relation.
I remember a post similar to this last year about Pies El**ch and the general feedback was that he was a really good squad man with a great attitude, just hated losing and never played like he could. From the outside, he looked like a right stuck up c**t and was surprised to hear otherwise. For all we know Mulligan maybe a great squad man so lets leave it out.
And no I'm not a relation.
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That's a fair enough call, A47. I don't know anything about the man's attitude, all I know is that he's been sh*thouse every time I've seen him play for us. He may well be the life and soul of the dressing room and train the house down, but it's when he crosses the white line that I'm judging him.Jag2009-01-23 21:42:53
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I know. I was agreeing with you! (whilst cunningly distancing myself from any crticism!!) Jag2009-01-23 21:54:37
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I would suggest that unless we know something about his attitude, that we don't comment. We can call him a rubbish A-League footballer because we have seen him at that level, but unless someone has something concrete, lets not comment on his attitude.I remember a post similar to this last year about Pies El**ch and the general feedback was that he was a really good squad man with a great attitude, just hated losing and never played like he could. From the outside, he looked like a right stuck up c**t and was surprised to hear otherwise. For all we know Mulligan maybe a great squad man so lets leave it out.And no I'm not a relation.
I was refering to the couple of games that he did play where when he made errors he had a habit of shouting at others in the team. In my books that is an attitude problem that a team can do without.
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I continue to believe that, in addition to 2 strikers and another keeper, we need to recruit another McKain standard defensive midfielder - but a complementary player - smaller, quicker ball player with a bloody big engine.
I'm very happy to have Brown in the squad but, putting aside sentiment and my respect for the guys commitment, I would prefer a better starting defensive midfielder to partner McKain. Other than McKain (starting 11) and Brown (squad) I don't think we have another defensive midfielder who is up to the standard we will need to be title contenders next season.
Whitby boy2009-01-24 00:15:21He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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didn't paston sign on for one more year not long ago ?
i Know he hasn't had much chances this season i'd like to see Kwasnik resigned for next season also
i Know he hasn't had much chances this season i'd like to see Kwasnik resigned for next season also
Yep - he did - just found press release.
Current squad situation is;
15 players contracted by the club for next season and beyond are;
Paston
Muscat, Sigmund, Lochhead, Durante, Mulligan
Diego, Daniel, Brown, McKain, Bertos, Ferrante, Lia, Hearfield
Costa
Current players remaining unsigned;
CONTRACT EXPIRES END OF THIS SEASON:
#2) Jeremy Christie
#5) Karl Dodd
#8) Vaughan Coveny
#9) Shane Smeltz
#12) Richard Johnson
#15) Adam Kwasnik
#19) Greg Draper
#20) Glen Moss
#2) Jeremy Christie
#5) Karl Dodd
#8) Vaughan Coveny
#9) Shane Smeltz
#12) Richard Johnson
#15) Adam Kwasnik
#19) Greg Draper
#20) Glen Moss
Jeremy Christie - I suppose adaptability to a few positions aids him, can't see him going
Karl Dodd - should be kept
Richard Johnson - time to call stumps at the 'Nix for Johnson, seemed to me the team got better when he got injured
Adam Kwasnik - I don't think he really wants to be here, he's offered absolutely nothing so haere ra
Greg Draper - haven't seen enough of him to comment but you'd feel if the club felt he was a great prospect he would have got more game time by now
Dodd's the key resigning out of that lot, Johnson and Kwasnik should not be retained at all costs.
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we NEED karl dodd back. i would like also like to see kwasnik back. he's a good player and could be a key goal striker next season. johnson needs to go. don't need him. christie, don't care i'm not a big fan of his. and mulligan should as whitby fever quoted be shot out of wellington. we have muscat, lochead and lia back. we don't need the waste of a player, mulligan
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we NEED karl dodd back. i would like also like to see kwasnik back. he's a good player and could be a key goal striker next season. johnson needs to go. don't need him. christie, don't care i'm not a big fan of his. and mulligan should as whitby fever quoted be shot out of wellington. we have muscat, lochead and lia back. we don't need the waste of a player, mulligan
Thats still in the pipeline.
There are rumors going around with him.
I would also like him to stay though.
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I continue to believe that, in addition to 2 strikers and another keeper, we need to recruit another McKain standard defensive midfielder - but a�complementary player�- smaller, quicker ball player with a bloody big engine.
I'm very happy to have Brown in the squad but, putting aside sentiment and my respect for the guys commitment, I would prefer a better starting defensive midfielder to partner McKain. Other than McKain (starting 11)�and Brown (squad)�I don't think we have another defensive midfielder who is up to the standard we will need to be title contenders next season.
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mate, ferrante has done alright this season. crap game last game..looked very tired and had poor touch. but keep him he's done well. Lia will need to contest if he wants ferrantes spot.
I do hope that lia and ferrante contest and have to fight for there spot like sigmand, darrante and dodd did. would mean whoever plays would have to play well week in week out to retain their spot in the team.
come on phoenix. 09/10 is our season to shine
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I hope that Vince Lia bounces back to full fitness and has a big role to play next season. Ferrante has badly lost form...Vince could well slot into his midfield roll. Better there than converting him to a RB.
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Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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mate, ferrante has done alright this season. crap game last game..looked very tired and had poor touch. but keep him he's done well. Lia will need to contest if he wants ferrantes spot.
I do hope that lia and ferrante contest and have to fight for there spot like sigmand, darrante and dodd did. would mean whoever plays would have to play well week in week out to retain their spot in the team.
come on phoenix. 09/10 is our season to shine
sorry mate you couldnt have been watching the same games as me then Ferrante has been dire for some weeks now...his passing game is shot and his long ball game is aimless and dire..he also doesnt get out of our half too often either..Vince lia a much better option then Ferrante
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
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I was actually a Ferrante fan but I gave up trying to make excuses for him a while ago.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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How about we go after Denilson. Not the one who picked number 20 becasue he was twice the player of the number 10 but Denilson Martins Nascimento from Pohang Steelers. He looked the goods against Adelaide and could be available, he may be 32 but has plenty of athletism and speed
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And I think we should get rid of Johnson but keep Draper, Kwasnik and possibly Christie. I agree with somebody earlier that Mulligan should be given another shot.
He is not going to stick around.
Is that just your gut instinct, or based on info from a credible source?
scribbler2009-01-25 11:51:26
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