Phoenix Transfer - speculation (Part 1)
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just been on the Nix wikipedia page - Theres a player added into the squad called Jordan Walker...... can anyone confirm that this is a pisstake? Theres a Jordan Walker who plays for Bristol City but i'm pretty sure I just wasted my broadband on someone elses boredom.
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According to this https://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24978470-5000940,00.html?from=public_rss Kwasnik wants out. Any further news on him?
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According to this https://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24978470-5000940,00.html?from=public_rss Kwasnik wants out. Any further news on him?
Don't blame him.
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According to this https://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24978470-5000940,00.html?from=public_rss Kwasnik wants out. Any further news on him?
Don't blame him.
Yes must be tough for him. Not much game time versus living in a great city like wellington.
Don't envy him having to make that choice.
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nix new signing?
Mid-pitch sex romp costs footballerStuff.co.nz | Tuesday, 27 January 2009
Reuters
HOT WATER: Dino Drpic in action for his club Dinamo Zagreb.
Croatian football star Dino Drpic's dream of having sex in the middle of a football pitch has ended with the player being placed on his club's transfer list.
Defender Dino was outed by his wife, Playboy model Nives Celsius, who revealed that the couple had arranged for Dinamo Zagreb's stadium to be left empty with the floodlights on one night.
"Dino had arranged that people should turn on the stadium lights for us and he finally fulfilled his dream of having sex in the middle of a football pitch. It was very naughty," said Nives in a Serbian TV chat-show.
Despite his team refusing to comment on the situation, club bosses swiftly placed the 27-year-old on their transfer list and he now may be heading to Britain according to the Austrian Times.
-potential new signing for the nix?
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nix new signing?
Mid-pitch sex romp costs footballerStuff.co.nz | Tuesday, 27 January 2009
Reuters
HOT WATER: Dino Drpic in action for his club Dinamo Zagreb.
Croatian football star Dino Drpic's dream of having sex in the middle of a football pitch has ended with the player being placed on his club's transfer list.
Defender Dino was outed by his wife, Playboy model Nives Celsius, who revealed that the couple had arranged for Dinamo Zagreb's stadium to be left empty with the floodlights on one night.
"Dino had arranged that people should turn on the stadium lights for us and he finally fulfilled his dream of having sex in the middle of a football pitch. It was very naughty," said Nives in a Serbian TV chat-show.
Despite his team refusing to comment on the situation, club bosses swiftly placed the 27-year-old on their transfer list and he now may be heading to Britain according to the Austrian Times.
-potential new signing for the nix?
We need someone capable of scoring! Sounds like he enjoys playing in the hole behind the strikers!!!
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Phoenix should sign Niko Kovac just retired from Croatian national team as captain.
I think hes 35/36 but defenciv midfielder (DM) behind Modric.Hes playing for Salzburg in Austria i think, but he hasnt been gettin much game time.He still got a a few years left in him
Niko was born in 1971, so he'll be 38 this year, He's a great guy, but he can barely walk to the fridge to get the milk in the morning. As much as it pains me to say it, but no thanks.
Agree with you el grapadura that, although still probably a formidable player for the A-League, he's too risky to sign given his age. A pity because he and his brother were great players in the Bundesliga, Sierre A, and for Croatia.
Given Dino Drpic's preoccupation with scoring on the pitch after hours, are there any other Croatians that potentially could be targeted to play in the A-League. I'm still not unconvinced that it's worthwhile exploring for talent in such places as, for example, Croatia (which, I understand, is a big exporter of football talent), Greece, Czech Republic, Russia. They're places that the A-League clubs haven't tried, but there could be some good deals available.
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nix new signing?
Mid-pitch sex romp costs footballerStuff.co.nz | Tuesday, 27 January 2009
Reuters
HOT WATER: Dino Drpic in action for his club Dinamo Zagreb.
Croatian football star Dino Drpic's dream of having sex in the middle of a football pitch has ended with the player being placed on his club's transfer list.
Defender Dino was outed by his wife, Playboy model Nives Celsius, who revealed that the couple had arranged for Dinamo Zagreb's stadium to be left empty with the floodlights on one night.
"Dino had arranged that people should turn on the stadium lights for us and he finally fulfilled his dream of having sex in the middle of a football pitch. It was very naughty," said Nives in a Serbian TV chat-show.
Despite his team refusing to comment on the situation, club bosses swiftly placed the 27-year-old on their transfer list and he now may be heading to Britain according to the Austrian Times.
-potential new signing for the nix?
We need someone capable of scoring! Sounds like he enjoys playing in the hole behind the strikers!!!
but can he last ninety minutes?
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I'm guessing Yomcat's point is there is a difference between picking up players who have been released by a club because they are no longer wanted and picking up players who are out of contract but are still wanted by their current club i.e we make a better offer than their current club or players we pick up by paying a transfer fee.
The acid test for me on new signings is;
1) Would they be good enough to secure or seriously compete for regular starts at Adelaide, Melbourne or the Roar (these are the teams we will have to compete with to be title contenders).
2) If not would they make the squad at those clubs and
3) Are they better than the player they are replacing in the Nix squad.
If the answer to 1 and/or 2 is yes then the answer to 3 will almost always be yes but not necessarily so (think Smeltz & Moss).
The answers, for me, with resepct to Diego are yes so, as long as we can get / keep him fit, he is a good addition.
Good criteria there Whitby and I think a very sound basis to make decisions. Some things are a bit speculative because there will always be differences of opinions on what we feel about certain footballers but lets use our 3 major free agents as an example.
Kwasnik Christie Dodd
1: Unlikely No Unlikely
2: Yes Unlikely Yes
3: Yes Yes Yes
Based on that, maybe if I was the gaffer, I'd look at re-signing Kwasnik and Dodd and maybe leave Christie alone. Then again he is a Kiwi and a very versatile player so there is merit to re-signing him. I don't think Kwasnik wants to stay and Dodd wont get better game time at those other 3 clubs than he does here currently.
Agent 472009-01-29 21:43:34
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Really depends what else we have got lined up. Christie has been bloody unlucky that Ferrante has been keeping him on the bench IMO. I thought he'd almost done enough with his time to deserve a start. I would have started him against Melbourne.
Christie is fairly untested this year compared to both Kwasnik and Dodd who have had plenty of game time to push their case.
If you go by the criteria- on this season have they done the job the club has asked of them:
Christie - Yes Dodd - Yes Kwasnik- No
Christie is fairly untested this year compared to both Kwasnik and Dodd who have had plenty of game time to push their case.
If you go by the criteria- on this season have they done the job the club has asked of them:
Christie - Yes Dodd - Yes Kwasnik- No
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did anyone see on the crowd goes wild last night that apparently spurs want fred i cant see us getting him if thats the case
Really?
Good for him/Very bad for us!
lol, its Fred from Lyon
They cleared that up tonight
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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Phoenix should sign Niko Kovac just retired from Croatian national team as captain.
Niko was born in 1971, so he'll be 38 this year, He's a great guy, but he can barely walk to the fridge to get the milk in the morning. As much as it pains me to say it, but no thanks.
I think hes 35/36 but defenciv midfielder (DM) behind Modric.Hes playing for Salzburg in Austria i think, but he hasnt been gettin much game time.He still got a a few years left in him
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Agree with you el grapadura that, although still probably a formidable player for the A-League, he's too risky to sign given his age.� A pity because he and his brother were great players in�the Bundesliga, Sierre A, and for Croatia.
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Given Dino Drpic's preoccupation with scoring on the pitch after hours, are there any other Croatians that potentially could be targeted to play in the A-League.�� I'm still not unconvinced that it's worthwhile exploring for talent in such places as, for example, Croatia (which, I understand, is a big exporter of football talent), Greece, Czech Republic, Russia.� They're places that the A-League clubs haven't tried, but there could be some good deals available.
Dino. What can I say. The man's a complete numpty, and he's not that good a player either.
As far as Croatian players potentially coming here, in general I think it'd be a hard sell over there. You're really looking only at two kinds of players - youngsters who need a bit of experience whom we could get on loan, or slightly older guys (30+) struggling to hold a place in the team. The younger category probably wouldn't work for either us (difficult to plan long-term if you rely too much on loan players) or them (much easier to send them to 2. HNL or Bosnia to get experience). The slightly older guys could potentially be interested, but are a risky proposition. One name I could think of right now is Davor Vugrinec - bit of a journeyman these days, but has been able to score goals for most clubs he's played for. Currently with NK Zagreb, will turn 34 this year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davor_Vugrinecel grapadura2009-01-29 22:54:25
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did anyone see on the crowd goes wild last night that apparently spurs want fred i cant see us getting him if thats the case
Really?
Good for him/Very bad for us!
lol, its Fred from Lyon
They cleared that up tonight
Yeah I was watching Spurs game and the commentator said it about mid way through second half, I had to research it myself, but it'd definitely Fred from Lyon.
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did anyone see on the crowd goes wild last night that apparently spurs want fred i cant see us getting him if thats the case
Really?
Good for him/Very bad for us!
lol, its Fred from Lyon
They cleared that up tonight
Yeah I was watching spurs game the other day and the commentator said it about mid way through the second half. I had to research it myself, but it's definitely Fred from Lyon.
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I'm guessing Yomcat's point is there is a difference between picking up players who have been released by a club because they are no longer wanted and picking up players who are out of contract but are still wanted by their current club i.e we make a better offer than their current club or players we pick up by paying a transfer fee.
The acid test for me on new signings is;
1) Would they be good enough to secure or seriously compete for regular starts at Adelaide, Melbourne or the Roar (these are the teams we will have to compete with to be title contenders).
2) If not would they make the squad at those clubs and
3) Are they better than the player they are replacing in the Nix squad.
If the answer to 1 and/or 2 is yes then the answer to 3 will almost always be yes but not necessarily so (think Smeltz & Moss).
The answers, for me, with resepct to Diego are yes so, as long as we can get / keep him fit, he is a good addition.
Good criteria there Whitby and I think a very sound basis to make decisions. Some things are a bit speculative because there will always be differences of opinions on what we feel about certain footballers but lets use our 3 major free agents as an example.
Kwasnik Christie Dodd
1: Unlikely No Unlikely
2: Yes Unlikely Yes
3: Yes Yes Yes
Based on that, maybe if I was the gaffer, I'd look at re-signing Kwasnik and Dodd and maybe leave Christie alone. Then again he is a Kiwi and a very versatile player so there is merit to re-signing him. I don't think Kwasnik wants to stay and Dodd wont get better game time at those other 3 clubs than he does here currently.
I would probably say yes to Dodd for criteria 1. Next season Adelaide wont have Costanzo, Sasa or Valkanis with just Cornthwaite and Fyfe at the moment the only real candidates for CB and assuming Muscat re-signs with Melbourne, it will be Muscat and Vargas with no Seb Ryal or Thwaite to "seriously compete for regular starts" which I am sure Dodd would do. Out of all the players coming off contract for us, Dodd is the most important for us to re-sign.
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[QUOTE=nkcroatia_nz] Phoenix should sign Niko Kovac just retired from Croatian national team as captain.
Niko was born in 1971, so he'll be 38 this year, He's a great guy, but he can barely walk to the fridge to get the milk in the morning. As much as it pains me to say it, but no thanks.
I think hes 35/36 but defenciv midfielder (DM) behind Modric.Hes playing for Salzburg in Austria i think, but he hasnt been gettin much game time.He still got a a few years left in him
Agree with you el grapadura that, although still probably a formidable player for the A-League, he's too risky to sign given his age. A pity because he and his brother were great players in the Bundesliga, Sierre A, and for Croatia.
Given Dino Drpic's preoccupation with scoring on the pitch after hours, are there any other Croatians that potentially could be targeted to play in the A-League. I'm still not unconvinced that it's worthwhile exploring for talent in such places as, for example, Croatia (which, I understand, is a big exporter of football talent), Greece, Czech Republic, Russia. They're places that the A-League clubs haven't tried, but there could be some good deals available.
Dino. What can I say. The man's a complete numpty, and he's not that good a player either.
As far as Croatian players potentially coming here, in general I think it'd be a hard sell over there. You're really looking only at two kinds of players - youngsters who need a bit of experience whom we could get on loan, or slightly older guys (30+) struggling to hold a place in the team. The younger category probably wouldn't work for either us (difficult to plan long-term if you rely too much on loan players) or them (much easier to send them to 2. HNL or Bosnia to get experience). The slightly older guys could potentially be interested, but are a risky proposition. One name I could think of right now is Davor Vugrinec - bit of a journeyman these days, but has been able to score goals for most clubs he's played for. Currently with NK Zagreb, will turn 34 this year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davor_Vugrinec[/QUOTE]
Thanks el grapadura. Always interesting to read your opinions, and you seem to have quiet a useful knowledge on Eastern European football.
I think you're correct about the younger players. It's unlikely that promising up-and-coming players will want to be transferred or loaned out to the A-League - they can, as you suggest, most likely get better experience and development opportunities in second tier football in Croatia or by moving to, say, Bosnia.
However, I think there there is scope with the older players, i.e., in the 30+ category. As long as they are at the lower to mid-end of the 30s, they should generally still be atheletically capable of performing in the A-League. The risk can be mitigated by a good background check on the player, including the player's attidude and professionalism.
Based on the profile which you have provided, Davor Vugrenic (or an equivalent type of player) could be a worthwhile acquisition. Age 34 is not necessarily too old - it depends on the player and how well they have looked after themselves. If the Phoenix do their homework well, the risk should be minimal. By way of examples, consider Dwight Yorke's very successful seasons at Sydney (and, now in his late 30s, he's still in the Sunderland squad) and the Dutch player Victor Sikora (age 32/33) who is currently at Perth. I think the reality is that any quality players coming to the A-League from Europe will be in their 30s as they will not want to come while they're still in their prime. However, these players can still offer the A-League plenty over two or three seasons. Moreover, with the younger better Aussie players now being enticed by Asian clubs, the quality of the A-League may well depend on clubs resorting to older European/British/ South American players to maintain a high standard.
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Despite being born in New Zealand and having a father who coached New Zealand at the 1982 World Cup, Fallon chose to represent England at junior level. He did, however, represent New Zealand in an unofficial U-16 World Cup in France in 1998 where Wynton Rufer was the coach. Shortly after, he departed for England to be an apprentice at Barnsley.
In January 2006, New Zealand coach Ricki Herbert suggested that Fallon might still get a chance to represent New Zealand at senior level. Herbert claimed that the only reason why Fallon wasn�t picked was due to lack of correspondence from FIFA regarding this matter. Fallon had until he was 21 years old to get a clearance from FIFA to change nationalities. However, it found that Fallon did not apply in the 2004 window to change allegiance for over 21s players. This year long window was made available by FIFA upon introduction of the rule which allows players with dual nationality to "switch" their allegiance before their 21st birthday. And so Fallon can never be available for New Zealand National Football Team.
That is an extract from wikipedia, I could have sworn he'd put on an AW jumper before but oh well.
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I see in a news article posted on the Hyundai A-League website that a number of Adelaide's players are being targeted by rich Asian clubs. Among them is our Diego who has raised the interest of Chinese club Shandong Luneng, Adelaide's sister club. According to the article, Diego has an 'out' clause written into his Phoenix contract, which enables him to exit the Phoenix if a foreign club wants to sign him.
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I see in a news article posted on the Hyundai A-League website that a number of Adelaide's players are being targeted by rich Asian clubs. Among them is our Diego who has raised the interest of Chinese club Shandong Luneng, Adelaide's sister club. According to the article, Diego has an 'out' clause written into his Phoenix contract, which enables him to exit the Phoenix if a foreign club wants to sign him.
Crap!
https://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24983234-5000940,00.html?from=public_rss
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