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Phoenix v Victory

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
darkhorse wrote:
Chen is here on loan from chinise club so not sure how long he will be here for. Mulligan while training for AW's still cant get a game for nics. Cant work that out. I'd love to know what he's getting paid.
 
 
Can't work it out either..

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Scottishbhoy wrote:
Exactly, TBH Mulligan and Chen have hardly been tried.
 
Astro Boy's never going to make it here. Costa is a far better player.
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Scottishbhoy wrote:
Exactly, TBH Mulligan and Chen have hardly been tried.
not sure what u saw in chen after your costa commnets. as for mulligan, i agree, must have better setpiece than bertos

rojas, so special

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bringbacksmeltz wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
Exactly, TBH Mulligan and Chen have hardly been tried.
not sure what u saw in chen after your costa commnets. as for mulligan, i agree, must have better setpiece than bertos
 
 
To be fair, I never really saw chen. the times he played i was out.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Can you imagine how many draws we could of converted to wins if we had played hard attacking football for 90mins! Come on nics. If this is ricki's game plan then you can imagine what the scores will be when AW's play in the world cup!! Come on ricki!! get it sorted. start showing some muscle and lead the nics to the playoffs and further with positive attacking football.

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i assure you that you missed nothing bar a good laugh

rojas, so special

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Is this Costa who tracked back and won the ball in midfield that led to the goal, yeah, get rid of him allright...jeezo!!!
 
Saw the goal coming about 20 mins before it happened, yet we did nothing to try and turn the tide as they were gettign more and more of the ball, should have had McKain into that midfield about 10 mins earlier than he was as, even with 10 men, they were over running us and we couldnt win or hold on to the ball.  Having Ifill, Costa, Daniel and Leo sitting forward at that stage wasn't working as we just didn't have the ball to give them!
 
Thought Hearfield was superb as an attacking fullback, Lochhead did well, Lia was tidy, Sigmund had a great first half, Ifill was off the boil and we lose his main impact when he is stuck up as the centre forward and doesn't drop deep or pull wide.  We missed Greenacre.
 
Frustrated beyond belief tonight, we stopped even doing the basics well as the game developed, and we failed again to kill off a team, 2 points thrown away tonight, I need some bourbon now...
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh Well Off to watch Adelaide vs Jets - here's hoping for an entertaining 4-4 draw with a bit of biff. 
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irnbru14 wrote:
Is this Costa who tracked back and won the ball in midfield that led to the goal, yeah, get rid of him allright...jeezo!!!
 
Saw the goal coming about 20 mins before it happened, yet we did nothing to try and turn the tide as they were gettign more and more of the ball, should have had McKain into that midfield about 10 mins earlier than he was as, even with 10 men, they were over running us and we couldnt win or hold on to the ball.  Having Ifill, Costa, Daniel and Leo sitting forward at that stage wasn't working as we just didn't have the ball to give them!
 
Thought Hearfield was superb as an attacking fullback, Lochhead did well, Lia was tidy, Sigmund had a great first half, Ifill was off the boil and we lose his main impact when he is stuck up as the centre forward and doesn't drop deep or pull wide.  We missed Greenacre.
 
Frustrated beyond belief tonight, we stopped even doing the basics well as the game developed, and we failed again to kill off a team, 2 points thrown away tonight, I need some bourbon now...
 
Only did it once? Greenacre does it for 90mins every match.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Scottishbhoy wrote:
irnbru14 wrote:
Is this Costa who tracked back and won the ball in midfield that led to the goal, yeah, get rid of him allright...jeezo!!!
 
Saw the goal coming about 20 mins before it happened, yet we did nothing to try and turn the tide as they were gettign more and more of the ball, should have had McKain into that midfield about 10 mins earlier than he was as, even with 10 men, they were over running us and we couldnt win or hold on to the ball.  Having Ifill, Costa, Daniel and Leo sitting forward at that stage wasn't working as we just didn't have the ball to give them!
 
Thought Hearfield was superb as an attacking fullback, Lochhead did well, Lia was tidy, Sigmund had a great first half, Ifill was off the boil and we lose his main impact when he is stuck up as the centre forward and doesn't drop deep or pull wide.  We missed Greenacre.
 
Frustrated beyond belief tonight, we stopped even doing the basics well as the game developed, and we failed again to kill off a team, 2 points thrown away tonight, I need some bourbon now...
 
Only did it once? Greenacre does it for 90mins every match.


all hail Greenacre !!!
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here we go scottishboy and whooooo are getting started
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Scottishbhoy wrote:
irnbru14 wrote:
Is this Costa who tracked back and won the ball in midfield that led to the goal, yeah, get rid of him allright...jeezo!!!
 
Saw the goal coming about 20 mins before it happened, yet we did nothing to try and turn the tide as they were gettign more and more of the ball, should have had McKain into that midfield about 10 mins earlier than he was as, even with 10 men, they were over running us and we couldnt win or hold on to the ball.  Having Ifill, Costa, Daniel and Leo sitting forward at that stage wasn't working as we just didn't have the ball to give them!
 
Thought Hearfield was superb as an attacking fullback, Lochhead did well, Lia was tidy, Sigmund had a great first half, Ifill was off the boil and we lose his main impact when he is stuck up as the centre forward and doesn't drop deep or pull wide.  We missed Greenacre.
 
Frustrated beyond belief tonight, we stopped even doing the basics well as the game developed, and we failed again to kill off a team, 2 points thrown away tonight, I need some bourbon now...
 
Only did it once? Greenacre does it for 90mins every match.
 
Sorry mate, what's your point here???  You asked why we persisted with Costa, I said well he was the one who won the ball for our goal?!?!
 
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bringbacksmeltz wrote:
charliec wrote:
Scottishboy - Dead right,  he looked like a lost school boy today, we seem to fall apart when he came on,  it was the start of the rot.[/QUOTE] so u say we should push for win, we  bring on a striker and you moan then blame him for the ineptness of 10 other players. well done[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=bringbacksmeltz][QUOTE=Scottishbhoy]what happened to Chen?
 
 
f*ck chen. sack ricki


I'd be quiet BBS when you want to blame the ineptness of 11 players on the coach

Pot, Kettle, Black. Make a statement.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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irnbru14 wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
irnbru14 wrote:
Is this Costa who tracked back and won the ball in midfield that led to the goal, yeah, get rid of him allright...jeezo!!!
 
Saw the goal coming about 20 mins before it happened, yet we did nothing to try and turn the tide as they were gettign more and more of the ball, should have had McKain into that midfield about 10 mins earlier than he was as, even with 10 men, they were over running us and we couldnt win or hold on to the ball.  Having Ifill, Costa, Daniel and Leo sitting forward at that stage wasn't working as we just didn't have the ball to give them!
 
Thought Hearfield was superb as an attacking fullback, Lochhead did well, Lia was tidy, Sigmund had a great first half, Ifill was off the boil and we lose his main impact when he is stuck up as the centre forward and doesn't drop deep or pull wide.  We missed Greenacre.
 
Frustrated beyond belief tonight, we stopped even doing the basics well as the game developed, and we failed again to kill off a team, 2 points thrown away tonight, I need some bourbon now...
 
Only did it once? Greenacre does it for 90mins every match.
 
Sorry mate, what's your point here???  You asked why we persisted with Costa, I said well he was the one who won the ball for our goal?!?!
 
 
 
Fair play, just.. I've seen others saying greeny should be dropped to the bench for Costa. Not a good at you.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Scottishbhoy wrote:
irnbru14 wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
irnbru14 wrote:
Is this Costa who tracked back and won the ball in midfield that led to the goal, yeah, get rid of him allright...jeezo!!!
 
Saw the goal coming about 20 mins before it happened, yet we did nothing to try and turn the tide as they were gettign more and more of the ball, should have had McKain into that midfield about 10 mins earlier than he was as, even with 10 men, they were over running us and we couldnt win or hold on to the ball.  Having Ifill, Costa, Daniel and Leo sitting forward at that stage wasn't working as we just didn't have the ball to give them!
 
Thought Hearfield was superb as an attacking fullback, Lochhead did well, Lia was tidy, Sigmund had a great first half, Ifill was off the boil and we lose his main impact when he is stuck up as the centre forward and doesn't drop deep or pull wide.  We missed Greenacre.
 
Frustrated beyond belief tonight, we stopped even doing the basics well as the game developed, and we failed again to kill off a team, 2 points thrown away tonight, I need some bourbon now...
 
Only did it once? Greenacre does it for 90mins every match.
 
Sorry mate, what's your point here???  You asked why we persisted with Costa, I said well he was the one who won the ball for our goal?!?!
 
 
 
Fair play, just.. I've seen others saying greeny should be dropped to the bench for Costa. Not a good at you.
 
Fair do's!  Greenacre would be first on my teamsheet every week, we missed him today, helps keep the shape up front and works bloody hard when attacking and defending from the front too.
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Well..back from match....new we were up against it without Greenie and it showed his value at games end.  We had so much possession and played well in first half with caceras spraying it all over..went downhill after he left.  Shld have subbed Daniel and to hell with sentiment.  Devoid of ideas in the main apart from wingback overlaps and high crosses..oh for a low hard cross again.
 
MV wanted it more in the second half and it showed....a poor performance given the amped up crowd after the sending off and the electric first half.
 
Shame oh dear...

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Didnt see the game, just out of interest, what was the crowd size?
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard luck Phoenix!! Pretty exciting following online, still 1-1 vs Top A-League team isn't too bad . Did the crowd break 10 000 ???
PS Santa please give us a good group tonight/tomorrow???
pps ... Please give Costa a break, this is a team game.
kiwiMalaysia422009-12-04 22:25:37
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It was a damned good first half that's true. We were too nervous that last bit. Hacking it down field.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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Jeff Vader wrote:
bringbacksmeltz wrote:
charliec wrote:
Scottishboy - Dead right,  he looked like a lost school boy today, we seem to fall apart when he came on,  it was the start of the rot.[/QUOTE] so u say we should push for win, we  bring on a striker and you moan then blame him for the ineptness of 10 other players. well done[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=bringbacksmeltz][QUOTE=Scottishbhoy]what happened to Chen?
 
 
f*ck chen. sack ricki


I'd be quiet BBS when you want to blame the ineptness of 11 players on the coach

Pot, Kettle, Black. Make a statement.
wow sarcasm goes right over some peoples heads i guess 
butyeah sack costa

rojas, so special

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Damn ticket guy didn't put me and few mates in the fever, didn't notice till we got to the gates, we were in aisle 32 hahaha.

Ahh well. Was frustrated at the Phoenix attack, so many opportunities just shut down by Melbourne. Couldn't see how we conceded a goal, I zoned out because of the absent noise from Yellow Fever, it breaks my heart.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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Crowd: 8,200 at Westpac Stadium according to A-League site
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One Word. Fark.
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Boro4eva wrote:
Well..back from match....new we were up against it without Greenie and it showed his value at games end.  We had so much possession and played well in first half with caceras spraying it all over..went downhill after he left.  Shld have subbed Daniel and to hell with sentiment.  Devoid of ideas in the main apart from wingback overlaps and high crosses..oh for a low hard cross again.
 
MV wanted it more in the second half and it showed....a poor performance given the amped up crowd after the sending off and the electric first half.
 
Shame oh dear...
 
Didn;t understand why Caceras went off as he had a lot of the ball at that stage and kept possession well, especially compared to Daniel or Leo at that stage of the game!
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Question- How can you get another another 1800 people to the ROF???

Answer -  Winning
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I agree, I thought Caceras was playing really well. Not sure why ricki would do that. Infact I dont know why ricki subs a player with less then 10minutes to play. Why? it takes a little while for a player to get into the game.
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aix4_5 wrote:

Question- How can you get another another 1800 people to the ROF???

Answer -  Winning
Agreed!!
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The crowd was more like 8192 rather than the 8200 stated, a-league being a bit generous with that one.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
darkhorse - If we are winning by 2 with 10min to play I can understand,  but defending a 1 goal lead with 10 to go you dont make subs
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Still I mean the best advertising was those fellas on the bank of the basin with all the yellow fever gear and then the commentators started talking football because theres not much to say when 11 guys cant make 100 runs combined
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I thought the McKain for Daniel substitute was silly. We lost so much attacking flare and imo Mckain did nothing. He was slow and lazed around we needing Daniel to keep attacking so we didn't end up PARKING THE f**kING BUS in the last 10 minutes.
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aix4_5 wrote:
Still I mean the best advertising was those fellas on the bank of the basin with all the yellow fever gear and then the commentators started talking football because theres not much to say when 11 guys cant make 100 runs combined
 
yeh still the best performance in Welly today


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Azevo wrote:
Damn ticket guy didn't put me and few mates in the fever, didn't notice till we got to the gates, we were in aisle 32 hahaha.

Ahh well. Was frustrated at the Phoenix attack, so many opportunities just shut down by Melbourne. Couldn't see how we conceded a goal, I zoned out because of the absent noise from Yellow Fever, it breaks my heart.
 
u cld have moved to 23/24 probably withouta  prob..i started in 26 and went to 30 second half.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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i wonder if someone on the far post for their corner could have got his head to Vargas's header
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yeah I noted that after the goal and pointed it out to person seated next to me....cardinal sin really.  Might not have saved it but...

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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Shogan wrote:
I thought the McKain for Daniel substitute was silly. We lost so much attacking flare and imo Mckain did nothing. He was slow and lazed around we needing Daniel to keep attacking so we didn't end up PARKING THE f**kING BUS in the last 10 minutes.
 
McKain for Daneil should have happend 10 mins early when we couldn't get hold of the ball in mdfield, no point in having Daniel on the pitch when we don't have the ball / can't win it back in midfield.
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charliec wrote:
darkhorse - If we are winning by 2 with 10min to play I can understand,  but defending a 1 goal lead with 10 to go you dont make subs
Valid point, I'm just gutted.
 
If ever there was a time to stand up and start winning, it was against brisbane.
 
We need to start proving the critics wrong and win. We need to show the administrators that we deserve a 10yr licence.
 
We need to prove to the country that football is worth investing in etc..etc..we took a huge step forward on Nov 14. and 3 steps back when losing to brisbane and todays average effort.
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Expexct more of teh same I guess ig Hearfield has to stay RB for next 2 games...we lose that second half injection from him attacking..although he did very well at times given the space of 10 v 11.  He gave  one player a serve for not pushing up..

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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My harsh and grumpy assessment;
 
+ves; I thought Herfield was outstanding - he defended well and was very dangerous going forward - he has the pace, skill and CONFIDENCE to take on and beat a player. I also thought Lochhead had his best game of the season - also went forward well at every opportunity. Brown - to be honest I think he is an only adequate player however he has the very redeeming feature of getting in to scoring positions and putting a few away.
 
-ves; We simply don't know how to put games away - it was all too familiar and predictable - last 10 minutes we lose our shape, get stretched, caught on the counter and insist on playing around with the ball in the red zone. Set pieces - I know we must practice corners and free kicks but we really don't look dangerous from either.
 
I still think we can and will make the playoffs but we are struggling to win because; we failed to sign a good 2nd striker (Costa's not the answer), we are still short a creative playmaker (Diego's not the answer) and we need a very good defensive midfielder (Lia's not up to it). The last item on my recruitment wish list is a player who is dangerous, in the air, from set pieces.
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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darkhorse wrote:
charliec wrote:
darkhorse - If we are winning by 2 with 10min to play I can understand,  but defending a 1 goal lead with 10 to go you dont make subs
Valid point, I'm just gutted.
 
If ever there was a time to stand up and start winning, it was against brisbane.
 
We need to start proving the critics wrong and win. We need to show the administrators that we deserve a 10yr licence.
 
We need to prove to the country that football is worth investing in etc..etc..we took a huge step forward on Nov 14. and 3 steps back when losing to brisbane and todays average effort.
 
To many varied "we"s in their for me...footbal is stil on a high ex AWs and Nix will bear dividends as well. MV are a good team..even with 10.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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