Wellington Phoenix Men

Phoenix vs Jets 4pm Sunday 7th

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Footpaul wrote:
I was waiting for someone to mention the Mexican wave! I thought a Mexican wave was something you do at the cricket or rugby when nothing is happening, which is quite often. Last night it was too exciting on the pitch for that carry on. Nice to see the Fever seats not participate!

What is our record like in Sydney?


It is called the "Mexican" Wave because it was received worldwide fame during the FIFA Football World Cup in Mexico at the Estadio Universitario in Monterrey, 1986. The wave was invented beforehand (e.g "catch the wave" ads) but it was at the Football World cup in Mexico that the name "Mexican" Wave was invented. It was believed that in 1960s, in Monterrey Mexico, during a football game between Tigres and Rayados, the wave was created in the half time. The crowd was anxious, and the organizers were doing games and throwing football balls as presents in the half time because players took a lot of time returning to the field. That made people start doing the wave. If so, then the origin of the Mexico Wave is a football one from Mexico.

So I can't see why people have a problem with it at the football, when it is invented by football crowds for football.AllWhitebelievr2010-03-08 18:12:47
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Because the general culture of it in NZ is that its been done during boring lulls in rugby or cricket games. Of which there really isnt any in football,unless a player gets injured perhaps.
 
So mexican wave = boring game. So for it to come out during a finals game locked at 1-1 is very strange. People also spend more time watching the wave than the game itself. As you said,it happened at halftime during the mexican football game.
Tegal2010-03-08 18:13:44

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Forgive me if already posted - http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/214972/A-League-Chat-Part-1

Are we converting Craig Foster? Check out the smile on his face when the host mentions the crowd size (mind you he often has that silly grin).

Paul Ifill dials in.
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Wongo wrote:

Robin wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:
We dont do mexican waves and�I was pissed off it went around 3 times. The three of us stayed staunch and refused to participate. we're here to watch the football !!
good on ya i didn't move either!
Me too.


It is a football invention by football crowds. . . what's the point of being staunch like a pair of Rugby guys looking lost?
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Tegal wrote:
Because the general culture of it in NZ is that its been done during boring lulls in rugby or cricket games. Of which there really isnt any in football,unless a player gets injured perhaps.
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So mexican wave = boring game. So for it to come out during a finals game locked at 1-1 is very strange. People also spend more time watching the wave than the game itself. As you said,it happened at halftime during the mexican football game.


Actually it happens at anytime at overseas games . . . whether it is boring or not, so it was not strange at all. It is just people are not use to this atmosphere.
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The Mexican Wave took off like a rocket in Christchurch. Didn't do it myself, it's just as bad as singing, "Ole ole ole ole" IMO.
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Tegal wrote:
Because the general culture of it in NZ is that its been done during boring lulls in rugby or cricket games. Of which there really isnt any in football,unless a player gets injured perhaps.
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So mexican wave = boring game. So for it to come out during a finals game locked at 1-1 is very strange. People also spend more time watching the wave than the game itself. As you said,it happened at halftime during the mexican football game.


Actually it happens at anytime at overseas games . . . whether it is boring or not, so it was not strange at all. It is just people are not use to this atmosphere.


I have never seen a Mexican wave at a football game anywhere other than in New Zealand (yesterday and the Beckham game), and I've been to games on three different continents (although admitedly not in Mexico).
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el grapadura wrote:

I have never seen a Mexican wave at a football game anywhere other than in New Zealand (yesterday and the Beckham game), and I've been to games on three different continents (although admitedly not in Mexico).
 
I've seen two offshore, that I remember,  one at Juventus and the other at Wembley. Truth be told I was more than a bit taken aback both times.
 
The wave has been around a long time. but it was the 86 World Cup in Mexico that really gave it some profile.
dairyflat2010-03-08 19:13:04
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CboZ wrote:
timmymadden wrote:

That is f**ken awesome.



Thats amazing, Thats so freaking awesome.
I think what qualifies it as art is that as Terry starts speaking you can see Ifill running off to celebrate his goal on the TV above the stage. How's that for timing?
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Terry - "right,your all fired"

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Two more games to GLORY !!!! Sydney then Melbourne !!!WWWWAAAAHHHOOOO!!!!
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fantastic. truly fantastic. just starting to believe that we ACTUALLY could win the league
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dairyflat wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
I have never seen a Mexican wave at a football game anywhere other than in New Zealand (yesterday and the Beckham game), and I've been to games on three different continents (although admitedly not in Mexico).

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I've seen�two offshore, that I remember, �one at Juventus and the other at Wembley. Truth be told I was more than a bit taken aback both times.

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The wave has been around a long time. but it was the 86 World Cup in Mexico that really gave�it some profile.


It clearly predated the 86 World Cup in North America, though the origin is unclear. Some say NFL. Some say college sports. Mexicans claim they invented it well before the 86 cup. I'm sure some Canadians somewhere think it originated at a 1975 Maple Leafs Hockey game. England didn't become well aware of it until the 1986 World Cup and they began calling it "The Mexican Wave" as a result. In the USA, Mexico and Canada it is known simply as "The Wave" and people will not know what you are talking about if you refer to it as "The Mexican Wave" without describing what it is.
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akatarawa wrote:
fantastic. truly fantastic. just starting to believe that we ACTUALLY could win the league
What? Really?
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haha, its great how everyone's voices are past the point of no return, but the noise keeps coming out!

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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All right, which of you clowns did this?

Wikipedia wrote:
Ifill also scored the second goal in a 3-1 Minor Semi Final win against the Newcastle Jets on 7 March 2010, helping the Phoenix qualify for the Preliminary Final against title favourites Sydney FC. Ifill assumes God-like status in Wellington with rumours circulating he is actually a reincarnation of Pele, the greatest footballer to grace a playing field. He also allegedly possesses the body of a Demi-god, and is arguably the greatest import to be signed to a New Zealand football side (followed closely by fellow Phoenix team mate, Chris Greenacre).


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Wiki is the best and most accurate source on the internet.

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I was very disappointed with the Mexican Wave.  I was hoping it would die out in the Fever Zone (I was in aisle 16 where it was strong) but it was as strong there as anywhere else.  Maybe it was invented by a football crowd, maybe not, I don't care, it's just plain pathetic.  In a Central American football game yes, I'm fine with that, maybe even extend that South into South America - but try and leave it there.

It's pretty much the sign of a bored crowd, as others have said, as they tend to focus on it as much, if not more than, the football.

EDIT: And it doesn't matter if it's part of footballing culture (if it even is, I think not personally), it's not our culture.  Though that's not to say I'm opposed to borrowing bits of other countries footballing cultures.
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Stefan wrote:
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/wellington-goes-phoenix-mad-3396541/video

HOLY sh*t.
MR INCREDIBLE MADE IT ON THE NEWS.

With his own nodder.
Some of the things you said were hard to agree with.


I liked the:

Statement 1 = Nod
Statement 2 = Nod
Statement 3 = Nod
Statement 4 = Raised eyebrow and quizzical look at camera!

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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diego's son wrote:

skylab89 wrote:
Agree there whitby boy. Aussie commentators writing us off already and predicting a Melbourne Sydney grand final.
Simon Hill didn't say that!


In fact Simon and Andy Harper only had good things to say about us and NZ football.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Police presence was too low.  Bradwell's tie and shirt are fashion crimes.

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Just watched the A-League highlights show. I know I was there but f**k that was a good game! Great chances at either end but we were the better team. 26 shots on goal to their 13, 15 corners to their 4. Branko needs a reality check.

terminator_x2010-03-08 22:28:23

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Branko is a muppet. He ran his mouth before the game, and he had to talk trash after the game to keep his appearances up.

Same thing happened with the Bahrain coach running his mouth in November, he was nowhere to be seen or heard after the game.

The Jets did well to make the Finals, and the players showed good spirit in applauding the crowd as they left the field.

Branko's comments in the press conference after the game basically destroyed any good work the players had done on the pitch.
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Downey26 wrote:
timmymadden wrote:
That is f**ken awesome.
 
very awesome, was right up thed front and stoked to shake their hands


Excellent! thanks for who posted this on you tube! We left just before this but did get to meet a few players. F45ken awesome!!!
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loyalgunner wrote:

In a Central American football game yes, I'm fine with that, maybe even extend that South into South America - but try and leave it there.


Never saw a Mexican wave in a game in South America, and I've been to a few.
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timmymadden wrote:
akatarawa wrote:
fantastic. truly fantastic. just starting to believe that we ACTUALLY could win the league
What? Really?
 
believe, as opposed to hope. i have been HOPING for three seasons
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Wongo wrote:

Robin wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:
We dont do mexican waves and I was pissed off it went around 3 times. The three of us stayed staunch and refused to participate. we're here to watch the football !!
good on ya i didn't move either!
Me too.


It is a football invention by football crowds. . . what's the point of being staunch like a pair of Rugby guys looking lost?


simply put i can chant and watch a game, at 5 foot i can't mexican wave and watch a game.  5' is the ONLY reason i haven't got tickets in fever zone for 3 seasons as well!!.  love your noise but it is about the game! so aisle 23 it is, can join in AND see all the action
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I can't believe there are people on here knocking the Mexican wave.
I thought the point of YF was greater crowd participation.

You're effectively saying:
"Yes, you can enjoy yourselves, but only in the way we want you to"

Get off your high horse!
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Bevan wrote:
I can't believe there are people on here knocking the Mexican wave.
I thought the point of YF was greater crowd participation.

You're effectively saying:
"Yes, you can enjoy yourselves, but only in the way we want you to"

Get off your high horse!


actually what i meant, though maybe not clearly said, is i am there to watch football which i can't do during the wave as i am short


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Agreed Bevan.

Big deal. The Mexi went around.

Has nothing to do with "boredom", it's more the crowd getting into the atmosphere and participating/being heard & seen.

Sure, it has it's links with rugby/cricket but there's nothing wrong with it, imo.
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So what's the difference between a Mexican Wave and being told to 'Stand up for the Phoenix'?
 
None.
 
Both are distractions from the game
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Bevan wrote:
I can't believe there are people on here knocking the Mexican wave.
I thought the point of YF was greater crowd participation.

You're effectively saying:
"Yes, you can enjoy yourselves, but only in the way we want you to"

Get off your high horse!
 
I don't own a horse. High, or otherwise.
 
I don't like Mexican Waves, so I don't do them.
 
If other people feel the urge to spend their time watching the crowd so they know when to lift their arms up, and throw all their sh*t/empty bottles/etc up in the air, then watch the crowd again to see how the Wave is going, that's entirely up to them.
 
Personally, I'd rather watch the game.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Bevan wrote:
I can't believe there are people on here knocking the Mexican wave.
I thought the point of YF was greater crowd participation.

You're effectively saying:
"Yes, you can enjoy yourselves, but only in the way we want you to"

Get off your high horse!
Agreed. Not a fan of the wave but if people want to do it then why the f**k not? Gets the old folks involved etc.

a.haak

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The old folks hate it more than everyone else.
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