Wellington Phoenix Men

R10 V Central Coast Mariners | Sat 13th Dec | 5pm | Eden Park | Faltering Fullback

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over 11 years ago

Sackofspuds wrote:

So skimming over the posts the conclusion I'm drawing about the crowd is that firstly it was piss poor, and secondly, it consisted of a bunch of drunken assholes who had some weird English Premier League rivalry that they insisted on displaying to demonstrate that they were real football fans. Whuuuuut?

3 guys in West Ham shirts and one Tottenham guy in a crowd of over 11k. overblown bollocks



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over 11 years ago

I feel Boyd would have filled his boots. Just a hunch.

Firstly- it's a lot of respect to Ernie and the boys that CC came to disrupt our game rather than play theirs.

Second- we had Bonevacia, Krishna, Burns, Rodriguez all fail to make hay from good positions. That has to be unusual. I don't think we need the mythical striker. We just needed Boyd on the bench. We had 4 of our goal scorers have an off day at the same time. We needed one guy to have his shooting boots on. Or for Burns to square in back for Rodriguez.

Good news is A-Rod is starting to show his skills. It's hard to know if we actually have too many play makers now! McG, A-Rod and Roly...



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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

martinb wrote:

Second- we had Bonevacia, Krishna, Burns, Rodriguez all fail to make hay from good positions. That has to be unusual.

I don't know what comparable stats would be with other teams but my impression this season is that this is quite usual for us.  We are making many scoring opportunities in a lot of games so far but our conversion rate seems to be very low.

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over 11 years ago

martinb wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

So skimming over the posts the conclusion I'm drawing about the crowd is that firstly it was piss poor, and secondly, it consisted of a bunch of drunken assholes who had some weird English Premier League rivalry that they insisted on displaying to demonstrate that they were real football fans. Whuuuuut?

3 guys in West Ham shirts and one Tottenham guy in a crowd of over 11k. overblown bollocks

The issue is that these people were concentrated in the Zone. I didn't get the West Ham thing either. Perhaps they should have been in the Away stand if they were hoping for the Salties to take revenge on us.


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over 11 years ago

Tegal wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

Sackofspuds wrote:

So skimming over the posts the conclusion I'm drawing about the crowd is that firstly it was piss poor, and secondly, it consisted of a bunch of drunken assholes who had some weird English Premier League rivalry that they insisted on displaying to demonstrate that they were real football fans. Whuuuuut?

This is why we need another A-League team in NZ.

Northern Wellington Wanderers?

No relegation in the A league. North Wellington would fit right in. 

J'ville. Wellington's Gosford in one!

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I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

Junior82 wrote:

martinb wrote:

Second- we had Bonevacia, Krishna, Burns, Rodriguez all fail to make hay from good positions. That has to be unusual.

I don't know what comparable stats would be with other teams but my impression this season is that this is quite usual for us.  We are making many scoring opportunities in a lot of games so far but our conversion rate seems to be very low.

Compare to last game. Mcglinchey had an off game. Burns and Krishna were on song. Here no one was firing.

Edit: and there was no one with the recently proven ability to score from this formation on the bench for us.



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over 11 years ago

I thought the team played really well. Some of the better football I've seen the nix play.

Of course that means nothing if you don't finish the chances and your goalkeeper gifts them a goal. 


Allegedly

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over 11 years ago

I was impressed with out attack during the first half, just didn't finish. Roly had the best chances, fluffed badly

Great to see Krishna playing so well, he makes very good runs, and it seems his teammates are reading them, he will only get better I think over the season, was the best player on the park. Lovely finish for his goal.

Very good games from Riera, Dura, Siggy

On another day we will get some more of the chances in, so I am not too worried, think Ernie has us playing a good style that works to our strengths

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over 11 years ago

Here are some stats from the rounds to date

Rnd-opponent Total Shots Goals Shouts Outside Box Shots On Target
1 - Perth (h) L 16 1 4 5
2 - CCM (a) W 10 2 1 4
3 - Jets (h) W 10 4 2 5
4 - Tards (a) L 8 0 2 1
5 - WSW (h) W 12 1 5 3
6 - Adelaide (a) L 4 1 0 2
7 - Perth (a) L 7 1 4 2
8 - Citeh (h) W 9 5 1 7
9 - Jets (a) W 16 3 4 7
10 - CCM (h) D 21 1 8 7

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over 11 years ago

What was with the yf zone being behind the goal. It looked like a group of away supporters (in fact they were, I know), and could hardly be heard and did nothing for the atmosphere in the main stand. So we had to revert to a few rugby type Phoenix chants as our support.

Wrong decision to go there I reckon

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over 11 years ago

Patrick said that last season they got told to sit down so decided to move behind a goal where they could stand up.

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over 11 years ago

the zone in Akld is away from the main crowd as every single time up there previously it has gone pear shaped with non-fever folk being in the zone. 

Founder

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over 11 years ago

And this time we had those stupid troublemakers in EPL shirts.


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over 11 years ago

martinb wrote:

I feel Boyd would have filled his boots. Just a hunch.

Firstly- it's a lot of respect to Ernie and the boys that CC came to disrupt our game rather than play theirs.

Second- we had Bonevacia, Krishna, Burns, Rodriguez all fail to make hay from good positions. That has to be unusual. I don't think we need the mythical striker. We just needed Boyd on the bench. We had 4 of our goal scorers have an off day at the same time. We needed one guy to have his shooting boots on. Or for Burns to square in back for Rodriguez.

Good news is A-Rod is starting to show his skills. It's hard to know if we actually have too many play makers now! McG, A-Rod and Roly...

I was surprised to hear he's been banging them in for the WeeNix considering how poor his conversion rate for the senior team is (and over 40 odd games too)

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over 11 years ago

Doloras wrote:

And this time we had those stupid troublemakers in EPL shirts.

So hard being huge fan ,,,,other people ,.....yuck !

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

martinb wrote:

I feel Boyd would have filled his boots. Just a hunch.

Firstly- it's a lot of respect to Ernie and the boys that CC came to disrupt our game rather than play theirs.

Second- we had Bonevacia, Krishna, Burns, Rodriguez all fail to make hay from good positions. That has to be unusual. I don't think we need the mythical striker. We just needed Boyd on the bench. We had 4 of our goal scorers have an off day at the same time. We needed one guy to have his shooting boots on. Or for Burns to square in back for Rodriguez.

Good news is A-Rod is starting to show his skills. It's hard to know if we actually have too many play makers now! McG, A-Rod and Roly...

I was surprised to hear he's been banging them in for the WeeNix considering how poor his conversion rate for the senior team is (and over 40 odd games too)

Smeltz had a poor conversion rate when he started out. And I think Boyd's style is better suited to Ernie's Not A Striker policy of wing play and cut backs in the box than it was to Ricki's. He combined well with Huysegems last season and I genuinely thought this would be something of a break out season for him. Disappointed that it seems to have been curtailled by contract stuff. Or alternatively- brilliant coaching by Merrick so that he's mega hungry to make a point when Burns is out with Socceroo duty.



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over 11 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

Here are some stats from the rounds to date

Rnd-opponent Total Shots Goals Shouts Outside Box Shots On Target
1 - Perth (h) L 16 1 4 5
2 - CCM (a) W 10 2 1 4
3 - Jets (h) W 10 4 2 5
4 - Tards (a) L 8 0 2 1
5 - WSW (h) W 12 1 5 3
6 - Adelaide (a) L 4 1 0 2
7 - Perth (a) L 7 1 4 2
8 - Citeh (h) W 9 5 1 7
9 - Jets (a) W 16 3 4 7
10 - CCM (h) D 21 1 8 7

Jets are doing well to have 2 teams in the league. We dont even have one!

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 11 years ago

FU BLU wrote:

Doloras wrote:

And this time we had those stupid troublemakers in EPL shirts.

So hard being huge fan ,,,,other people ,.....yuck !

So the next time you are playing WaiBoP at Kiwitea St and some dudes in Bling and WSW shirts start kicking off, you'd find that not strange?

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over 11 years ago

Well, to be fair, I'd start kicking off if I saw someone in a Bling shirt. On general principle.


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over 11 years ago

Ryan wrote:

tonya wrote:
Yes another striker creates issues in an injury free environment, but it's maybe more having a game changer on the bench. We don't have that now Krishna is a starter. Was at Eden Park. Never seen a Phoenix side play like this. And the pace was electrifying.

Yeah I was sitting there wondering who on the bench Ernie could turn to to try and change the game. The truth being that there wasn't anyone that you could rely on. As much as I like Brockie and think he's a good player for a certain style of team having Boyd on the bench would do better for us.

Rojas coming back might help :)

a.haak

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over 11 years ago

hepatitis wrote:

What was with the yf zone being behind the goal. It looked like a group of away supporters (in fact they were, I know), and could hardly be heard and did nothing for the atmosphere in the main stand. So we had to revert to a few rugby type Phoenix chants as our support.

Wrong decision to go there I reckon

You can't have the zone in the main stand. You always have the problem of people wanting to sit down. Yes I know it sounds better there but its just not a option

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over 11 years ago

Awful crowd last night guys. I would be very keen to see the games in Wellington only. Maybe share a game or two in Dunedin (when the students are there) but Auckland is not a football city. At least in Dunedin, fans from Chch and the rest of the south island will attend. 

11k is really shocking, Auckland.

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

The guy in the brown shirt that was throwing the stuff got rightly told where to go. It started with bottle tops, progressed to chips and then the bottle. Dickhead.

This was a game between the Nix and the Mariners.

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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 11 years ago

I had a quite enjoyable day out.  There were highs, there were lows, there were shambles, there were awkward encounters.  There was also a game.  A game we should have owned, so many goal scoring opportunities.

But I had fun.

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over 11 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

The guy in the brown shirt that was throwing the stuff got rightly told where to go. It started with bottle tops, progressed to chips and then the bottle. Dickhead.

This was a game between the Nix and the Mariners.

There was another guy who was wearing a white top that seemed to be by himself to

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over 11 years ago

Wow just saw on the news that Britomart train station was shut down last night at about 11pm due to rioting/a brawl between 70 odd "youths" some of whom had been at Christmas in the Park and Ragmuffin. Train services stopped for 20 minutes. We went through earlier (about 9pm and went to Foxes) and I left there about midnight and caught ferry home to Devonport and was none the wiser...


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over 11 years ago

bloody Xmas hooligans.

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over 11 years ago

NHpeter wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

The guy in the brown shirt that was throwing the stuff got rightly told where to go. It started with bottle tops, progressed to chips and then the bottle. Dickhead.

This was a game between the Nix and the Mariners.

There was another guy who was wearing a white top that seemed to be by himself to

Yeah i saw that. Youths being dick heads. To much wanna be gangsta's, 

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over 11 years ago

amazing.

Just read "no arrests were made" - how?! 

Saw a video and security were just sort of standing there (fair enough, they don't get paid enough for that sh*t). Should've got riot police in and arrested them all! 


Allegedly

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over 11 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

The guy in the brown shirt that was throwing the stuff got rightly told where to go. It started with bottle tops, progressed to chips and then the bottle. Dickhead.

This was a game between the Nix and the Mariners.

Thought he was in the UK in the 70s and 80 and trying to punch on. Should deport fudge wits like that 'home'

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over 11 years ago

martinb wrote:

Junior82 wrote:

martinb wrote:

Second- we had Bonevacia, Krishna, Burns, Rodriguez all fail to make hay from good positions. That has to be unusual.

I don't know what comparable stats would be with other teams but my impression this season is that this is quite usual for us.  We are making many scoring opportunities in a lot of games so far but our conversion rate seems to be very low.

Compare to last game. Mcglinchey had an off game. Burns and Krishna were on song. Here no one was firing.

Edit: and there was no one with the recently proven ability to score from this formation on the bench for us.

Cunningham and Brockie look like a complete waste of space as subs in this team

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over 11 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

The guy in the brown shirt that was throwing the stuff got rightly told where to go. It started with bottle tops, progressed to chips and then the bottle. Dickhead.

This was a game between the Nix and the Mariners.

Thought he was in the UK in the 70s and 80 and trying to punch on. Should deport fudge wits like that 'home'

Strangest part is that he seemed disgusted that we were chanting about Liam Reddy and his alcohol, yet he thought it was okay to call the players "fucking queers" when they made mistakes.


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over 11 years ago

Tegal wrote:

amazing.

Just read "no arrests were made" - how?! 

Saw a video and security were just sort of standing there (fair enough, they don't get paid enough for that sh*t). Should've got riot police in and arrested them all! 

How did the police not attend? Did no one pick up the phone? Did the police say it's your problem? Or were there no police available on Saturday?

Also the crowd figures should take into account Christmas in the Park and Ragamuffin on the same day. It's like management looked at the 20K and 18K crowd figures and went ha! well can you do that with two major festivals on....



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over 11 years ago

martinb wrote:

Tegal wrote:

amazing.

Just read "no arrests were made" - how?! 

Saw a video and security were just sort of standing there (fair enough, they don't get paid enough for that sh*t). Should've got riot police in and arrested them all! 

How did the police not attend? Did no one pick up the phone? Did the police say it's your problem? Or were there no police available on Saturday?

Also the crowd figures should take into account Christmas in the Park and Ragamuffin on the same day. It's like management looked at the 20K and 18K crowd figures and went ha! well can you do that with two major festivals on....

But you have to remember that Auckland has over a million people living there, to ask for 18k in attendance - once a year wasn't much to ask for. Eden park is too expensive as well. the only time that white elephant is packed is when the All Blacks play or the 9's..so you gotta ask the question if they should of played at north harbour - the so called home of Football. 

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

We enjoyed our first trip for a Phoenix game out of Wellington. Shame we didn't win but it was a good game and at least we got the goal and didn't lose. Was in section 410 so when they announced the winner for the lounge bar and said the section I thought "surely not?" but alas we were 5 rows behind. Atmosphere was decent where we were and had to laugh at the guy behind us who kept saying "oh yes" as if it was extremely pleasurable whenever the Phoenix made a good pass or tackle.

Transport was easy. Borrowed a car from my partner's parents and we parked in Downtown and got the train from Britomart in plenty of time. Got chatting to a nice couple who were wearing Phoenix gear on the train. Said they had come over from Australia to see their son and it turned out they were Manny Muscat's parents so that was interesting. Didn't see any trouble aside from a couple of idiots being pulled apart by security outside the ground after the game. We were out of Britomart long before any of the fighting.

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over 11 years ago

martinb wrote:

Tegal wrote:

amazing.

Just read "no arrests were made" - how?! 

Saw a video and security were just sort of standing there (fair enough, they don't get paid enough for that sh*t). Should've got riot police in and arrested them all! 

How did the police not attend? Did no one pick up the phone? Did the police say it's your problem? Or were there no police available on Saturday?

I'm sure the Police were too busy dealing with the potential threat of thousands of football hooligans - after all they watch the news as well.

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

Oh and almost forgot to mention, there's a guy somewhere out there who doesn't come on here but he attended the game. I met him at one of the bus stops on Dominion Rd after the game. He wished me well, a merry christmas and helped identify the bus I needed. I wished him all the best and sincerely hope he and his family have a great christmas. A complete stranger and a good sort. This deserved a mention.

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over 11 years ago

Was a bit disappointed there didn't seem to be a match day programme as I usually like to collect them from anything I go to.

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over 11 years ago

Yes, noticed that as I do collect them.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 11 years ago

ajc28 wrote:

We enjoyed our first trip for a Phoenix game out of Wellington. Shame we didn't win but it was a good game and at least we got the goal and didn't lose. Was in section 410 so when they announced the winner for the lounge bar and said the section I thought "surely not?" but alas we were 5 rows behind. Atmosphere was decent where we were and had to laugh at the guy behind us who kept saying "oh yes" as if it was extremely pleasurable whenever the Phoenix made a good pass or tackle.

Transport was easy. Borrowed a car from my partner's parents and we parked in Downtown and got the train from Britomart in plenty of time. Got chatting to a nice couple who were wearing Phoenix gear on the train. Said they had come over from Australia to see their son and it turned out they were Manny Muscat's parents so that was interesting. Didn't see any trouble aside from a couple of idiots being pulled apart by security outside the ground after the game. We were out of Britomart long before any of the fighting.

Must be why Manny didn't smack one of those CCM pricks in the face - he was on his best behaviour for mum and dad!

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