Wellington Phoenix Men

R13 vs Western Sydney Wed 9.00pm SS4

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about 12 years ago

If you can drum up enough support I can't see it being a bad thing.

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about 12 years ago
theprof wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Pretty much. Reading their forums is all about them and not the game and it's like people have committed a hanging offence leaving early.

I'm pretty sure most opf them just go to the game to chant their pre-rehearsed, pre-planned chants. I still don't get the Ponzi thing either - who in their right minds turns their backs on their team for 10 minutes????? Besides the fact that their chants are all about themselves and have little to no bearing on what is happening infront of them.

The make great noise true, but it is largely meaningless drivel, the crowds are brilliant but then the team is winning for the second season - I'd love to see how they go when they are losing (which will happen eventually)

The Poznan. In contrast, the Ponzi scheme is probably how some overseas clubs get their funding!

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 12 years ago
nufc_nz wrote:

Leaving early pfft. Just shows what kind of supporters they are. Glory hunters.

You mean the Man United fans of the South Pacific?
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 12 years ago
tigers wrote:

the drums in season one were fucking annoying

they regularly stuffed up chants that were just getting started

the players are delighted with the noise from the fever zone - let's keep it that way

This sounds like an "all or nothing" argument. I wasn't there, but I suspect the above drumming was random, and not pre-planned.

With anything of that size/sound, you would need a well-organised group with a leader. The drums are played for a specific period of time, like every 15-20 min, and at specific times (just prior to kickoff, etc). The chant starts when the drums stop. Nobody in their right mind would expect drumming to go on for the whole game. I attended several games in Montevideo during my misspent youth and their drumming (candombe) was highly organised and structured (in contrast to what went on the pitch in some games, but that's another story) .

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
theprof wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Pretty much. Reading their forums is all about them and not the game and it's like people have committed a hanging offence leaving early.

I'm pretty sure most opf them just go to the game to chant their pre-rehearsed, pre-planned chants. I still don't get the Ponzi thing either - who in their right minds turns their backs on their team for 10 minutes????? Besides the fact that their chants are all about themselves and have little to no bearing on what is happening infront of them.

The make great noise true, but it is largely meaningless drivel, the crowds are brilliant but then the team is winning for the second season - I'd love to see how they go when they are losing (which will happen eventually)

Why buy a season ticket only to turn your back on your team when they probably need you? Wtf, some seriously fucked up logic there. I concur with others when the rbb are all about themselves. One of their chants sounds so close to seig hail it's not funny. Considering tbe area they are in, I wouldn't be surprised.  Perhaps those who went could clarify this for me. I may well be wrong....again.

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about 12 years ago

I was at the beach in the far north and had no internet. To watch this I drove to a telecom hotspot by a prepay phone with 2 laptops and watched half the game on one and the other half on the other. All this in the middle of the night screaming with excitement on the side of a deserted country road. I even put $3 on the Nix to win to round out my tab account, I didn't expect to get $24 back. I havn't missed a nix game this year and I don't intent on starting now. 

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about 12 years ago

if Battucada get involved with drumming for the YF - I'm never coming to a game - their mindliss bashing is annoying, having a few chants that are lead or balanced with drums sure but why do we need to copy everyone else - next we'll be planning our chants for the game, having a megaphone to lead us - why change what is already working?

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about 12 years ago

I still cant figure out why the aussies need a bull horn and a special stand to have themselves heard. Never seen that before and it's friggen shithouse stuff. For god sake, grow a deep voice and shout to kick off your chants.

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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 12 years ago

Drums aren't allowed into the Stadium as they are a musical instrument. We haven't needed drums to create an atmosphere in the past so why would we need them now? 


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 12 years ago

NO DRUMS PLEASE K THANKS. 



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about 12 years ago
patrick478 wrote:

Drums aren't allowed into the Stadium as they are a musical instrument. We haven't needed drums to create an atmosphere in the past so why would we need them now? 


Crowd sizes aren't that flash and haven't been for a long while. Everyone knows we have to get bigger crowds and do it consistently. There is a saying that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you've always got. It works in many other A league stadiums and other football venues worldwide. Could we do better here in Wellington?

And Westpac Stadiums instrument ban is just a joke - makes us a laughing stock. Remember the world cup rugby fiasco with the Scotland supporters and their pipes? What will visiting supporters for under 20  world cup think of it? Just typical westpac stadium anal conservatism. 

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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
Gordinho wrote:
patrick478 wrote:

Drums aren't allowed into the Stadium as they are a musical instrument. We haven't needed drums to create an atmosphere in the past so why would we need them now? 


Crowd sizes aren't that flash and haven't been for a long while. Everyone knows we have to get bigger crowds and do it consistently. There is a saying that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you've always got. It works in many other A league stadiums and other football venues worldwide. Could we do better here in Wellington?

A drum in the Yellow Fever Zone isn't going to improve crowd sizes. People who are likely to come to games simply because of the Fever and the atmosphere are already attending matches. Crowd sizes can improve for other reasons, but putting a drum in the Fever Zone is going to get a negligible amount of extra people coming to games.


Besides, we tend to go for the English style of supporting, where one starts a chant and it either catches on or they get giggled at for singing on their own. As opposed to the Eastern European style with drums and flares, like the RBB do. Drums just aren't our style.


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about 12 years ago

Drums are very good when done properly - to support the songs/chants. When they're not synchronised with the other stuff, then they're just mindless noise. But they do make a lot of noise, so when done properly, they clearly make a significant contribution to the atmosphere.


PS. Stadium are farken commienazis for not letting musical instruments in, I always thought a bit of brass music in the zone would be pretty awesome too.

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about 12 years ago

We would would probably he told off by Burgess for spending YF money on a drum. And then lose it anyway.

What Patrick said. Drums are only useful if you are wailing for minutes on end like the RBB. My kazoo did the trick nicely the other night .

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about 12 years ago
Feverish wrote:

(My random morning after comments)

their fans all seemed to be good buggers. Had a yarn with quite a few and a fair few commented well done. Their drummers were good lads and couldn't beleive we didn't have drummers. 

After we chanted 'is that all you get at home' when the attendance was read out, one lady yelled out 'go back to the shire' which was well played.

One guy commented that Sydney FC (who they strongly dislike) stuffed up when they didn't make their ground more central (Homebush?).

RBB did a rendition of the Logical Song which was pretty cool.



I agree with Greenie about their fans being pretty good sorts. Security gave us an escort out after the game but down Church Street all we got was people saying "hey well played, good win" etc etc. One dude thanked us for beating Sydney the other day.

Logical Song was choice. 
 

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 12 years ago
Feverish wrote:

We would would probably he told off by Burgess for spending YF money on a drum. And then lose it anyway.

What Patrick said. Drums are only useful if you are wailing for minutes on end like the RBB. My kazoo did the trick nicely the other night .


Oh Greenie, how narrow your horizons are.
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about 12 years ago
patrick478 wrote:
Gordinho wrote:
patrick478 wrote:

Drums aren't allowed into the Stadium as they are a musical instrument. We haven't needed drums to create an atmosphere in the past so why would we need them now? 


Crowd sizes aren't that flash and haven't been for a long while. Everyone knows we have to get bigger crowds and do it consistently. There is a saying that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you've always got. It works in many other A league stadiums and other football venues worldwide. Could we do better here in Wellington?

A drum in the Yellow Fever Zone isn't going to improve crowd sizes. People who are likely to come to games simply because of the Fever and the atmosphere are already attending matches. Crowd sizes can improve for other reasons, but putting a drum in the Fever Zone is going to get a negligible amount of extra people coming to games.


Besides, we tend to go for the English style of supporting, where one starts a chant and it either catches on or they get giggled at for singing on their own. As opposed to the Eastern European style with drums and flares, like the RBB do. Drums just aren't our style.


This is from the RBB chant sheet:

Everyone in RBB bays is expected to get 

involved. If you don't know a chant, try 

to follow any movements while learning. 

Do not start chants on your own like "ref 

is a wanker". Listen & follow the Capos.

 
If anyone would like to volunteer to be a YF capo, please email Budgie@dompost.co.nz

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
Smithy wrote:

If anyone would like to volunteer to be a YF capo, please email Budgie@dompost.co.nz


 

Any potential capo must wear a full conductor's suit at the match. 





Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 12 years ago
patrick478 wrote:

Drums aren't allowed into the Stadium as they are a musical instrument. We haven't needed drums to create an atmosphere in the past so why would we need them now? 


We have two vuvuzelas and two mini vuvus.
I don't think they can be considered musical instruments so will bring them along for the next game.






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about 12 years ago
Feverish wrote:

We would would probably he told off by Burgess for spending YF money on a drum. And then lose it anyway.


It will be at Tawa clubrooms no doubt.

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about 12 years ago

The rules around drums and shit are stupid and are half the reason for the crowds, whether or not YF have used them before or not is irrelevant. People should be able to just bring stuff in. The trumpets and drums around other stadia in aussie sound good, its a real shame we have nothing of the sort over here.

Maybe you guys should just push for something anyway? Not necessarily in the fever zone but somewhere else down the other end, so we have sound at both ends. You guys are hardly heard on TV these days anyway, i watched our last two home games on the tele and what i could actually hear sounded about as basic and bland as what id imagine Fred de Jong with down syndrome would sound like attempting to recite the alphabet.

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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History

If we want to be like the other club/s we need bigger detonators - then no need for drums just have Patrick program a computer to set them off in time to the chants. 

May need to allow for interruptions to the game for bomb squad visits and engineers to check stadium for structural damage before fans let back in.  

Oh that's right a mount out side for a permanent SPOON. 

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about 12 years ago
patrick478 wrote:
Smithy wrote:

If anyone would like to volunteer to be a YF capo, please email Budgie@dompost.co.nz


 

Any potential capo must wear a full conductor's suit at the match. 




Does the Nixie outfit have tails? At least one?

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 12 years ago

I would hate for all our chants to be coordinated through a muppet capo. 

I've actually grown to love our style. It comes up with some pretty funny on the spot chants. And anyone can be involved. 


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Tegal wrote:

I would hate for all our chants to be coordinated through a muppet capo. 

I've actually grown to love our style. It comes up with some pretty funny on the spot chants. And anyone can be involved. 


This!

It's a far more entertaining experience when you can chant something witty and spontaneous. 

Although, in saying that maybe it's time to revisit the idea of a YF Song Book...


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about 12 years ago

A drum for what ???? Yeah because all the biggest clubs in the top leagues have a fuckin band playing in the stands...... Why stop there ? What about a rhythm guitar ? Bass ? Hell get a violin and piano. Stupid. I say do not do this.



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about 12 years ago

Might actually need all of the above for "Stand Up for the Phoenix".


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about 12 years ago
nufc_nz wrote:

A drum for what ???? Yeah because all the biggest clubs in the top leagues have a fuckin band playing in the stands...... Why stop there ? What about a rhythm guitar ? Bass ? Hell get a violin and piano. Stupid. I say do not do this.


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about 12 years ago
Nommag wrote:

I was at the beach in the far north and had no internet. To watch this I drove to a telecom hotspot by a prepay phone with 2 laptops and watched half the game on one and the other half on the other. All this in the middle of the night screaming with excitement on the side of a deserted country road. I even put $3 on the Nix to win to round out my tab account, I didn't expect to get $24 back. I havn't missed a nix game this year and I don't intent on starting now. 

#realfan

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
Nommag wrote:

I was at the beach in the far north and had no internet. To watch this I drove to a telecom hotspot by a prepay phone with 2 laptops and watched half the game on one and the other half on the other. All this in the middle of the night screaming with excitement on the side of a deserted country road. I even put $3 on the Nix to win to round out my tab account, I didn't expect to get $24 back. I havn't missed a nix game this year and I don't intent on starting now. 

#realfan

I remember watching a half on a dodgy stream that eventually cut out and then running for 15 minutes to get to a pub in time for the second half, but this absolutely smashes that commitment!!


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about 12 years ago
Luis Garcia wrote:

If you can drum up enough support I can't see it being a bad thing.


It's the kind of thing that can really get under your skin though, but if they stick with it I don't think they can be beat...


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about 12 years ago

Personally I like the idea of a song book. Get the old chants codified and proliferate new ones. Would help for the family types further down as it can be difficult to make them out at times. Get more people involved
That said I love the spontaneity of many of the chants and that anyone can start one. And can't see why we can't have both. A song book for the uninitiated while still starting random chants relevant to the action like "you're so shit your fans don't even watch"
Don't like the idea of a capo.
Keep it decentralised and egalitarian I say.

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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about 12 years ago
martinb wrote:
Luis Garcia wrote:

If you can drum up enough support I can't see it being a bad thing.


It's the kind of thing that can really get under your skin though, but if they stick with it I don't think they can be beat...


All a bit of a beat up really and probably cymbalises what is wrong with organised spontaneity these days. 
Still, it might help snare a few more casual punters.

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about 12 years ago

Hmmm ....cant beat that ...

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about 12 years ago

I wanted to use the phrase "Nancy Timpano" somehow.  No success so far.


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about 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

BYO Flares

Not so sure about drums but I think flares can be a good addition if they're done right

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about 12 years ago

It'd be a great gag for the feverzone to wear them when WSW next come to town. 


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about 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:

It'd be a great gag for the feverzone to wear them when WSW next come to town. 

I think a few of the $2 shops in town have 70s disco costumes for around $15-20 (ok, not really $2 shops then but that sorta thing - cheap plastic sh*t shops)

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about 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:

It'd be a great gag for the feverzone to wear them when WSW next come to town. 


And let them off at 80 if we're winning?
#cdiddystyle

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about 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:

It'd be a great gag for the feverzone to wear them when WSW next come to town. 



I love this idea so much. Please do it.
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