Wellington Phoenix Men

R14 v Melbourne City | Sat 6th Jan | 9.50pm | SS3

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about 8 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

valeo wrote:

Cantrun7 wrote:

Conans point is fair enough. I guess where im comming from is moral in the squad is possibly low ( im making assumptions here and i might be wrong), and if that is correct, it might be better to do something asap to try and lift it even if it doesnt work straightaway, hence my theory of playing Burns off the bench. But yes, it may not work being different coach new system etc , but if he does manage to lay off a good assist to create a goal or even get a goal, I think its worth the risk .

Without a proper pre-season or at least a couple of weeks of fitness work, it's likely throwing him in too early will just get him injured.

He's been training at his previous club for the last 6 months...

He's already been through preseason and he's likely to be fit enough.


I'm sure he's been training very intensely when he had no chance of playing a game. 

a.haak

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about 8 years ago

On Burns, Kalezic said he would play some part against City.

"Nathan is fit, but not game fit like usually because he had some weeks off after the season in Japan. He is ready to make minutes, but not 90 minutes."



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about 8 years ago

maybe 1 more minute than Singh then?

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 8 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Didn't I read on here though that he failed a fitness test for Melbourne City?

He failed to impress Joyce in a time trial is the word from a decent source on Twitter.
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about 8 years ago

RR wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Didn't I read on here though that he failed a fitness test for Melbourne City?

He failed to impress Joyce in a time trial is the word from a decent source on Twitter.


Beep ..... beep.... beeep

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 8 years ago

I hop

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 8 years ago

Yep, it's hot.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 8 years ago

RR wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Didn't I read on here though that he failed a fitness test for Melbourne City?

He failed to impress Joyce in a time trial is the word from a decent source on Twitter.


Beep ..... beep.... beeep

not bad.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 8 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

valeo wrote:

Cantrun7 wrote:

Conans point is fair enough. I guess where im comming from is moral in the squad is possibly low ( im making assumptions here and i might be wrong), and if that is correct, it might be better to do something asap to try and lift it even if it doesnt work straightaway, hence my theory of playing Burns off the bench. But yes, it may not work being different coach new system etc , but if he does manage to lay off a good assist to create a goal or even get a goal, I think its worth the risk .

Without a proper pre-season or at least a couple of weeks of fitness work, it's likely throwing him in too early will just get him injured.

He's been training at his previous club for the last 6 months...

He's already been through preseason and he's likely to be fit enough.

The J-League ended December 1 so Burns hasn't even been training since then (until he arrived in Wellington last week).

I wouldn't exect too much of Burns initially - he' started one game in the last 17 months - 26/4/17 in the J-League Cup for FC Tokyo  when he was dragged after 21 minutes.

Before that his last start was 22 July 2016 (J-League FC Tokyo vs. Kawasaki Frontale).

Since that start he has made just eight sub appearances (and the one start when he was dragged), mostly afer the 80th minute - and that was when he was fit and available at FC Tokyo.

There's also his long history of injuries to consider (Burns has only played 128 league games in his 12 year senior career).

Although signed by Sanfrecce Hiroshima in July 2017, he failed to make any appearances for a team which narrowly avoided relegation - so must have been injured most of that time?

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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about 8 years ago

Big Pete 65 wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

valeo wrote:

Cantrun7 wrote:

Conans point is fair enough. I guess where im comming from is moral in the squad is possibly low ( im making assumptions here and i might be wrong), and if that is correct, it might be better to do something asap to try and lift it even if it doesnt work straightaway, hence my theory of playing Burns off the bench. But yes, it may not work being different coach new system etc , but if he does manage to lay off a good assist to create a goal or even get a goal, I think its worth the risk .

Without a proper pre-season or at least a couple of weeks of fitness work, it's likely throwing him in too early will just get him injured.

He's been training at his previous club for the last 6 months...

He's already been through preseason and he's likely to be fit enough.

The J-League ended December 1 so Burns hasn't even been training since then (until he arrived in Wellington last week).

I wouldn't exect too much of Burns initially - he' started one game in the last 17 months - 26/4/17 in the J-League Cup for FC Tokyo  when he was dragged after 21 minutes.

Before that his last start was 22 July 2016 (J-League FC Tokyo vs. Kawasaki Frontale).

Since that start he has made just eight sub appearances (and the one start when he was dragged), mostly afer the 80th minute - and that was when he was fit and available at FC Tokyo.

There's also his long history of injuries to consider (Burns has only played 128 league games in his 12 year senior career).

Although signed by Sanfrecce Hiroshima in July 2017, he failed to make any appearances for a team which narrowly avoided relegation - so must have been injured most of that time?

anyone who has no concerns about his fitness has head firmly in sand.
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about 8 years ago

Big Pete 65 wrote:

Although signed by Sanfrecce Hiroshima in July 2017, he failed to make any appearances for a team which narrowly avoided relegation - so must have been injured most of that time?

New coach at Sanfreece apparently didn't rate him. Old coach was replaced at almost exactly the same as Burns was signed, so I wouldn't necessarily say the reason he didn't play was because he was injured.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 8 years ago

sthn.jeff wrote:

anyone who has no concerns about his fitness has head firmly in sand.

There's a big difference between saying he has no fitness concerns and refuting incorrect claims that he's been clubless since July.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

patrick478 wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

anyone who has no concerns about his fitness has head firmly in sand.

There's a big difference between saying he has no fitness concerns and refuting incorrect claims that he's been clubless since July.

I didn't see anyone in that conversation saying he had been clubless since July though?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 8 years ago

COYN

                                                                        COYN    

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about 8 years ago

it's happening, a 7 point week

Get in there you good things

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 8 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

anyone who has no concerns about his fitness has head firmly in sand.

There's a big difference between saying he has no fitness concerns and refuting incorrect claims that he's been clubless since July.

I didn't see anyone in that conversation saying he had been clubless since July though?

that was me. I made an incorrect assumption given he had played not part whatsoever for his new club
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about 8 years ago

It's a wee bit hot at the moment.

a.haak

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about 8 years ago

valeo wrote:

It's a wee bit hot at the moment.

Southerly Buster on time?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 8 years ago

Finding it difficult to get excited about this one

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 8 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

Finding it difficult to get excited about this one

We got this 2-1

Fire up

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 8 years ago

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about 8 years ago

Bollocks

Singh>Rufer

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 8 years ago

Hello! Anyone know of a good stream for the game? Thanks

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about 8 years ago

Strange - Darije mustn't rate Parkhouse. I'm surprised to see Doyle ahead of him

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about 8 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

Finding it difficult to get excited about this one

Is that a quote from Darije's planned team talk?

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about 8 years ago

'Mon lads, lets get an upset. We really need 3 points today.

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about 8 years ago

5 at the back, again.

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about 8 years ago

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about 8 years ago

4-5-1. Should do the trick..

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 8 years ago

Singh not good enough for even the bench

New Zealand Football perfectly explained. 

I await the news report saying he was 'injured' with a bent toenail or his Mothers step-sisters cerominal goat has passed away

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 8 years ago

Very sad Singh can't even make the bench :(

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about 8 years ago

foal30 wrote:

Singh not good enough for even the bench

New Zealand Football perfectly explained. 

I await the news report saying he was 'injured' with a bent toenail or his Mothers step-sisters cerominal goat has passed away

More likely to be that he has moved to better training facilities. You really do have to wonder just why he isnt being given a decent chance to show what he can offer.Given the crap we have been dished up so far.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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about 8 years ago

TreeFiddy wrote:

Strange - Darije mustn't rate Parkhouse. I'm surprised to see Doyle ahead of him

Nah it'll go to a five at the back formation once we start, with Doyle and Galloway getting forward on attack. I presume he and Burns will come on with 20 to go if we are chasing the game to inject a bit of energy, and a shift to a conventional 4-3-3
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

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about 8 years ago

Singh is 18, guys you have to be a bit more patient.

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about 8 years ago

TreeFiddy wrote:

Strange - Darije mustn't rate Parkhouse. I'm surprised to see Doyle ahead of him

Nah it'll go to a five at the back formation once we start, with Doyle and Galloway getting forward on attack. I presume he and Burns will come on with 20 to go if we are chasing the game to inject a bit of energy, and a shift to a conventional 4-3-3

Doyle is atLB, Galloway at RB. 5-3-2



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about 8 years ago

number8 wrote:

Singh is 18, guys you have to be a bit more patient.

Yeah it will be at least another season before the Tards swoop in for him!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 8 years ago

number8 wrote:

Singh is 18, guys you have to be a bit more patient.

When a team is bottom, surely you want to promote the little bit of excitement?

a.haak

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about 8 years ago

number8 wrote:

Singh is 18, guys you have to be a bit more patient.

When you are good enough you are old enough. 

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about 8 years ago

Two super subs score... 1:1

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about 8 years ago

Isn't the kid from Perth 16 and starting for them? Singh has shown hes good enough or at least not worse than what we already have. Will be interesting to see how Vidosic goes tonight.



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