Wellington Phoenix Men

R19 vs Melbourne City | Sat 15th Feb | 7:00pm | Eden Park/SS7

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about 6 years ago

scribbler wrote:

Eden Park really should close off one side more often - for Rugby, Cricket etc. One of the worst places for atmosphere in the country when there is less than 20,000 - which is ridiculous.

Why not do it at the Cake Tin?

They do it at Wellington too. The aisles camera side are closed except for those who have stadium or season passes on that side,although the nature of sky stadium is you can just walk around anyway.

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about 6 years ago

Devere's passing was bang average last night on a couple of occasions and put us under pressure. I'd expect to see more pressing against him moving forward.

I watched Marinovich warm up, he passing and touch is very limited, especially when viewed against Sail who was bringing everything down on a dime and hitting 40 year passes with the outside of his foot as if it was nothing!

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about 6 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Devere's passing was bang average last night on a couple of occasions and put us under pressure. I'd expect to see more pressing against him moving forward.

I watched Marinovich warm up, he passing and touch is very limited, especially when viewed against Sail who was bringing everything down on a dime and hitting 40 year passes with the outside of his foot as if it was nothing!

That is obviously Marinovic's weak point - his distribution is very poor. His all round play is so good that I don't think that matters too much, though.

a.haak

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about 6 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Devere's passing was bang average last night on a couple of occasions and put us under pressure. I'd expect to see more pressing against him moving forward.

I watched Marinovich warm up, he passing and touch is very limited, especially when viewed against Sail who was bringing everything down on a dime and hitting 40 year passes with the outside of his foot as if it was nothing!

That is obviously Marinovic's weak point - his distribution is very poor. His all round play is so good that I don't think that matters too much, though.

a.haak

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about 6 years ago · edited about 6 years ago · History

enjoyable game overall. Team seem to be playing as a unit and fighting for each other which is great to see. Eden park sounded decent on tv. As others have said, Marinovic’s distribution was pretty woeful, was it windier than Wellington? I’m not convinced by McCowatt, seems to make the wrong decisions a lot of the time and can’t keep the ball. Knew nothing of him before he came here and a lot of folk were singing his praises. I’m not seeing it. Hope he turns it around because he’s not worth a sub spot at the mo.

Seems to be a few folk obsessed with attendance figures on Twitter. Personally, I couldn’t care less. The guy who used to write the fanzine for the previous Auckland failures seems like a cod. Axe to grind. At the end of the day, the nix won, there was a reasonable crowd at EP , what else really matters? The club are the winners here. 

Anyway. Really hope we put the snakes to the sword on Friday, birthday game and likely to be my last for a while. Nothing would please me more than seeing the snake tears.

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about 6 years ago

Ryan wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Eden Park really should close off one side more often - for Rugby, Cricket etc. One of the worst places for atmosphere in the country when there is less than 20,000 - which is ridiculous.

Why not do it at the Cake Tin?

They do it at Wellington too. The aisles camera side are closed except for those who have stadium or season passes on that side,although the nature of sky stadium is you can just walk around anyway.

Reminds me of this gem from The Roar last week on A League attendances:

"For Wellington Phoenix the “Cake Tin” is a terrible stadium, plain and simple. It has 30,000 seats and is oval shaped, but with strong political resistance against building a rectangular stadium they’re basically stuck with it. The only way to deal with this situation might be to drop the Phoenix from the A-League."

Apparently whoever wrote that is a Guru.

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about 6 years ago

I mean, the stadium is shark.

a.haak

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about 6 years ago

I took a couple of mates from the BOP up to the game yesterday. It was a great night and the crowd was awesome.

Was the first game I’d seen live this season and was looking forward to it.(Flying to Wellington is outrageously expensive from Tauranga and having to add in accommodation makes it a killer. Gareth -do have any mates in Air NZ who can fix this?)

What I saw was a team in another stage of evolution and development – upwards.

I saw a 90 minute effort unlike any game this season. Without exception everyone was committed to getting a result.

The Perth game showed signs of this, of what the whole squad was capable of. The evidence of this was the fightback under tough physical conditions and one man down. In these two games there was different type of confidence.

Last night in open play the guys when on the ball always had two options there to support. The golden triangle.

Some of the skills from the midfield were outrageously good in tight conditions. The passing was generally good but on occasions the defence nodded off. Stuff to fix.

The midfield clicked well too and the rottie attitude of Cam Devlin was memorable together with Matti and Ulises work rate.

The young guys with limited game time also fitted in with confidence and did try to do stuff. Sure some of it didn’t pay off, but they aren’t robots.Plenty of room for improvement. Rome wasn’t builtin a day.

The team we as up against a very good side and getting a result like that has to be very satisfying as we move to the business end of the comp. Its a huge psychological boost for everyone and shows we are on track to achieve a decent spot in the final 6 or higher.

Im not an apologist for Uffie. This was a great evening’s entertainment that we should all celebrate.

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about 6 years ago

valeo wrote:

I mean, the stadium is shark.

More for his 'solution' than his comment on the stadium.

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about 6 years ago

Boro4eva wrote:

valeo wrote:

bennie99 wrote:

valeo wrote:

I thought we were a lot better 2nd half. A bit more quality from the likes of McCowatt and we would've have a 2nd.

McCowatt's first touch is very poor at times, he's gotta work harder at that if he wants to advance at this level.

But a pretty gritty performance especially defensively tonight. I think we are pretty tough mentally this season so far, which is a bit of a change from some past seasons.

That poor clearance from a City defender which went straight to him, in the box, with no defenders around him..and then his touch let him down. That sums him up at the moment. He's just not quite at this level for me; maybe he'll get there, maybe he won't.

Was that his game back in the Handa?..seems to me that he is just lacking touch most of the time and perhaps confidence to give it more of a go.


yes and the slagging off that he is getting on these pages is hardly going to help. And please don’t tell me that the players don’t read this stuff. Keyboard warriors are entitled to their opinions and express them but they might want to ask how they would feel if their work was subject to the same level of public scrutiny and very often harsh judgment. Sotirio, Rufer, Payne and McCowatt in particular have been subject to some pretty harsh commentary.

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about 6 years ago

Alf Tupper wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

valeo wrote:

bennie99 wrote:

valeo wrote:

I thought we were a lot better 2nd half. A bit more quality from the likes of McCowatt and we would've have a 2nd.

McCowatt's first touch is very poor at times, he's gotta work harder at that if he wants to advance at this level.

But a pretty gritty performance especially defensively tonight. I think we are pretty tough mentally this season so far, which is a bit of a change from some past seasons.

That poor clearance from a City defender which went straight to him, in the box, with no defenders around him..and then his touch let him down. That sums him up at the moment. He's just not quite at this level for me; maybe he'll get there, maybe he won't.

Was that his game back in the Handa?..seems to me that he is just lacking touch most of the time and perhaps confidence to give it more of a go.


yes and the slagging off that he is getting on these pages is hardly going to help. And please don’t tell me that the players don’t read this stuff. Keyboard warriors are entitled to their opinions and express them but they might want to ask how they would feel if their work was subject to the same level of public scrutiny and very often harsh judgment. Sotirio, Rufer, Payne and McCowatt in particular have been subject to some pretty harsh commentary.

and Hooper

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 6 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Devere's passing was bang average last night on a couple of occasions and put us under pressure. I'd expect to see more pressing against him moving forward.

I watched Marinovich warm up, he passing and touch is very limited, especially when viewed against Sail who was bringing everything down on a dime and hitting 40 year passes with the outside of his foot as if it was nothing!

Was thinking the other day, I wonder how Sail is feeling. Been at the Nix a few years now. Got a couple of games when Kurto was out last season. Had a blinder I thought against Newcastle in Newcastle. NZ football have never really had a top sweeper keeper, and he could become one.

Marinovic from memory rarely gets injured. Didn't he play 20 odd consecutive games for the AWs? 

Hard for Sail to crack any of the Aussie A League sides being a visa player, but surely he'd be a better option at Newcastle than Italiano - a club that were prepared to use a visa spot on Ridenton, and have little money. Sail would be cheap, and hugely motivated to grab the No 1, number one spot.

Just some thoughts.

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about 6 years ago

valeo wrote:

I mean, the stadium is shark.

its certainly not fit for purpose anymore. but the stadium is hardly a reason to be offered for dropping us.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 6 years ago

coochiee wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Devere's passing was bang average last night on a couple of occasions and put us under pressure. I'd expect to see more pressing against him moving forward.

I watched Marinovich warm up, he passing and touch is very limited, especially when viewed against Sail who was bringing everything down on a dime and hitting 40 year passes with the outside of his foot as if it was nothing!

Was thinking the other day, I wonder how Sail is feeling. Been at the Nix a few years now. Got a couple of games when Kurto was out last season. Had a blinder I thought against Newcastle in Newcastle. NZ football have never really had a top sweeper keeper, and he could become one.

Marinovic from memory rarely gets injured. Didn't he play 20 odd consecutive games for the AWs? 

Hard for Sail to crack any of the Aussie A League sides being a visa player, but surely he'd be a better option at Newcastle than Italiano - a club that were prepared to use a visa spot on Ridenton, and have little money. Sail would be cheap, and hugely motivated to grab the No 1, number one spot.

Just some thoughts.

could well be an option for next season for him, assuming Ernie stays at Newcastle. Moss retiring at the end of the season means there will be a spot as either #1 or #2 keeper.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 6 years ago · edited about 6 years ago · History

Great win, great performance. Hopefully the case against Hooper is now dismissed, he's proved his class and importance plenty of times. 

TAHW made a great starting debut, remembering too that RB is not his obvious position, and he got up and down the pitch brilliantly.

Steinmann, Devlin and Devere were immense, only negative was Super Keeper's distribution at times, but it's almost like who cares, he's an absolute class goalkeeper, cut him a bit of slack.

We win on Friday, we go second. Second. Bloody brilliant.

Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.

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about 6 years ago

theprof wrote:

its certainly not fit for purpose anymore. but the stadium is hardly a reason to be offered for dropping us.

Some Aussie football pundits have an auto-text macro which ends any article, or even paragraph with "... and this is why the Nix should be kicked out of the A-League".


Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
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about 6 years ago

The Jam wrote:

Great win, great performance. Hopefully the case against Hooper is now dismissed, he's proved his class and importance plenty of times. 

TAHW made a great starting debut, remembering too that RB is not his obvious position, and he got up and down the pitch brilliantly.

Steinmann, Devlin and Devere were immense, only negative was Super Keeper's distribution at times, but it's almost like who cares, he's an absolute class goalkeeper, cut him a bit of slack.

We win on Friday, we go second. Second. Bloody brilliant.


couldnt agree more. Glass half full posting.

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about 6 years ago · edited about 6 years ago · History

Alf Tupper wrote:

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yes and the slagging off that he is getting on these pages is hardly going to help. And please don’t tell me that the players don’t read this stuff. Keyboard warriors are entitled to their opinions and express them but they might want to ask how they would feel if their work was subject to the same level of public scrutiny and very often harsh judgment. Sotirio, Rufer, Payne and McCowatt in particular have been subject to some pretty harsh commentary.

While I hate the constant slagging that some seem to continually be doing. This is a football forum for fans and some of the stuff on here is much tamer than you see elsewhere. Also if players are going to put off by nameless critics then maybe they need to change their job. Pretty sure there are plenty out there who would love to be given the chance.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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about 6 years ago

Alf Tupper wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

valeo wrote:

bennie99 wrote:

valeo wrote:

I thought we were a lot better 2nd half. A bit more quality from the likes of McCowatt and we would've have a 2nd.

McCowatt's first touch is very poor at times, he's gotta work harder at that if he wants to advance at this level.

But a pretty gritty performance especially defensively tonight. I think we are pretty tough mentally this season so far, which is a bit of a change from some past seasons.

That poor clearance from a City defender which went straight to him, in the box, with no defenders around him..and then his touch let him down. That sums him up at the moment. He's just not quite at this level for me; maybe he'll get there, maybe he won't.

Was that his game back in the Handa?..seems to me that he is just lacking touch most of the time and perhaps confidence to give it more of a go.


yes and the slagging off that he is getting on these pages is hardly going to help. And please don’t tell me that the players don’t read this stuff. Keyboard warriors are entitled to their opinions and express them but they might want to ask how they would feel if their work was subject to the same level of public scrutiny and very often harsh judgment. Sotirio, Rufer, Payne and McCowatt in particular have been subject to some pretty harsh commentary.

To be fair to most of the people on this forum, even though certain players do get a lot of criticism, it's normally thoughtful and justified rather than just slagging off a player for no reason - most of the time. Players shouldn't be immune from criticism just because they might read a forum post and get sad. All 'entertainers' whether they are athletes, actors, musicians or whatever are subject to the same type of public scrutiny and it is their job just to get on with whatever they are paid to do.

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about 6 years ago

Outpost wrote:

Ryan wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Eden Park really should close off one side more often - for Rugby, Cricket etc. One of the worst places for atmosphere in the country when there is less than 20,000 - which is ridiculous.

Why not do it at the Cake Tin?

They do it at Wellington too. The aisles camera side are closed except for those who have stadium or season passes on that side,although the nature of sky stadium is you can just walk around anyway.

Reminds me of this gem from The Roar last week on A League attendances:

"For Wellington Phoenix the “Cake Tin” is a terrible stadium, plain and simple. It has 30,000 seats and is oval shaped, but with strong political resistance against building a rectangular stadium they’re basically stuck with it. The only way to deal with this situation might be to drop the Phoenix from the A-League."

Apparently whoever wrote that is a Guru.

The Roar's Stadium seats 60k plus and they manage to get about 5k there so if there is a ghost town stadium there's is it.

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about 6 years ago

theprof wrote:

coochiee wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Devere's passing was bang average last night on a couple of occasions and put us under pressure. I'd expect to see more pressing against him moving forward.

I watched Marinovich warm up, he passing and touch is very limited, especially when viewed against Sail who was bringing everything down on a dime and hitting 40 year passes with the outside of his foot as if it was nothing!

Was thinking the other day, I wonder how Sail is feeling. Been at the Nix a few years now. Got a couple of games when Kurto was out last season. Had a blinder I thought against Newcastle in Newcastle. NZ football have never really had a top sweeper keeper, and he could become one.

Marinovic from memory rarely gets injured. Didn't he play 20 odd consecutive games for the AWs? 

Hard for Sail to crack any of the Aussie A League sides being a visa player, but surely he'd be a better option at Newcastle than Italiano - a club that were prepared to use a visa spot on Ridenton, and have little money. Sail would be cheap, and hugely motivated to grab the No 1, number one spot.

Just some thoughts.

could well be an option for next season for him, assuming Ernie stays at Newcastle. Moss retiring at the end of the season means there will be a spot as either #1 or #2 keeper.

Ernie was sacked by the Jets a while ago now. 

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 6 years ago

We need to keep Devlin as long as possible. The kid is all class. 

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about 6 years ago · edited about 6 years ago · History

Marto wrote:

Mainland FC wrote:

The Savior wrote:

Christchurch based fans - We will be at Robbie's Riccarton again - 15th Feb - 7:00pm Kick off

Turn out was awesome last time.

All welcome.

We have overseas visitors - a family of four from Denmark - staying with us this weekend, so I thought I may have to miss it.  However, after a few words, it looks like I am bringing them with me to Robbies tonight.  They're looking forward to shirts off at 80 minutes.

Did they get their shirts off?  Better weather in Welli then Denmark right now for that!!!

Well, they were reluctant, so I led by example, and you would not believe the sheer number of howls "Geez put it back on" from the room packed with YF at Robbies. Some people just have no appreciation of the girth diversity.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 6 years ago

whatever wrote:

Outpost wrote:

Ryan wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Eden Park really should close off one side more often - for Rugby, Cricket etc. One of the worst places for atmosphere in the country when there is less than 20,000 - which is ridiculous.

Why not do it at the Cake Tin?

They do it at Wellington too. The aisles camera side are closed except for those who have stadium or season passes on that side,although the nature of sky stadium is you can just walk around anyway.

Reminds me of this gem from The Roar last week on A League attendances:

"For Wellington Phoenix the “Cake Tin” is a terrible stadium, plain and simple. It has 30,000 seats and is oval shaped, but with strong political resistance against building a rectangular stadium they’re basically stuck with it. The only way to deal with this situation might be to drop the Phoenix from the A-League."

Apparently whoever wrote that is a Guru.

The Roar's Stadium seats 60k plus and they manage to get about 5k there so if there is a ghost town stadium there's is it.

You are wrong on both counts. Suncorps seating is 52500 and Roars average this season is 10300.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 6 years ago

Leggy wrote:

whatever wrote:

Outpost wrote:

Ryan wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Eden Park really should close off one side more often - for Rugby, Cricket etc. One of the worst places for atmosphere in the country when there is less than 20,000 - which is ridiculous.

Why not do it at the Cake Tin?

They do it at Wellington too. The aisles camera side are closed except for those who have stadium or season passes on that side,although the nature of sky stadium is you can just walk around anyway.

Reminds me of this gem from The Roar last week on A League attendances:

"For Wellington Phoenix the “Cake Tin” is a terrible stadium, plain and simple. It has 30,000 seats and is oval shaped, but with strong political resistance against building a rectangular stadium they’re basically stuck with it. The only way to deal with this situation might be to drop the Phoenix from the A-League."

Apparently whoever wrote that is a Guru.

The Roar's Stadium seats 60k plus and they manage to get about 5k there so if there is a ghost town stadium there's is it.

You are wrong on both counts. Suncorps seating is 52500 and Roars average this season is 10300.

"They're squatting on a licence".

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 6 years ago

Leggy wrote:

whatever wrote:

Outpost wrote:

Ryan wrote:

scribbler wrote:

Eden Park really should close off one side more often - for Rugby, Cricket etc. One of the worst places for atmosphere in the country when there is less than 20,000 - which is ridiculous.

Why not do it at the Cake Tin?

They do it at Wellington too. The aisles camera side are closed except for those who have stadium or season passes on that side,although the nature of sky stadium is you can just walk around anyway.

Reminds me of this gem from The Roar last week on A League attendances:

"For Wellington Phoenix the “Cake Tin” is a terrible stadium, plain and simple. It has 30,000 seats and is oval shaped, but with strong political resistance against building a rectangular stadium they’re basically stuck with it. The only way to deal with this situation might be to drop the Phoenix from the A-League."

Apparently whoever wrote that is a Guru.

The Roar's Stadium seats 60k plus and they manage to get about 5k there so if there is a ghost town stadium there's is it.

You are wrong on both counts. Suncorps seating is 52500 and Roars average this season is 10300.

Yes, their average is actually very respectable, as is ours, Perth's and Adelaide's, given that none of these clubs can substantially profit from FFA's derby obsession.

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about 6 years ago

Brisbane are close to building a boutique stadium for the Roar. Looks like they have someone competent in charge over there 

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about 6 years ago

Funny when we win nobody complains about the ref.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 6 years ago

valeo wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Devere's passing was bang average last night on a couple of occasions and put us under pressure. I'd expect to see more pressing against him moving forward.

I watched Marinovich warm up, he passing and touch is very limited, especially when viewed against Sail who was bringing everything down on a dime and hitting 40 year passes with the outside of his foot as if it was nothing!

That is obviously Marinovic's weak point - his distribution is very poor. His all round play is so good that I don't think that matters too much, though.

Yeah, nah. Marinovic had an off night with distribution last night, but he's generally very good in this part of game. There was something up with pitch that a few players seemed to be struggling with at times. Marinovic is a big step up from Kurto here, and comparing what Sail was doing in pre-match routine isn't a fair comparison (though I agree Sail is good here too).

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about 6 years ago

Thought Hooper was immense last night - great strength, quick feet and good vision and decision-making. He's clearly taken longer to get into his stride than people might have anticipated, but at least this is the point in the season where we'd like him to start firing anyway.



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about 6 years ago

that was a good win,, our attack can be a bit sterile but our defence is very good. Wasn't as impressed with TAHW as some, I thought his passing was noticeably wayward in the period before he went off. Also thought Steinmann was bypassed too easily on their inside left channel where there was a lot of space. I think we're starting to see what Hooper is capable of. 

Normo's coming home

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about 6 years ago · edited about 6 years ago · History

james dean wrote:

that was a good win,, our attack can be a bit sterile but our defence is very good. Wasn't as impressed with TAHW as some, I thought his passing was noticeably wayward in the period before he went off. Also thought Steinmann was bypassed too easily on their inside left channel where there was a lot of space. I think we're starting to see what Hooper is capable of. 

I saw that too, but I thought that was because of Payne's absence and lack of natural understanding between Steiny and TAHW. Bound to happen when you have personnel changes.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 6 years ago

AMac wrote:

Thought Hooper was immense last night - great strength, quick feet and good vision and decision-making. He's clearly taken longer to get into his stride than people might have anticipated, but at least this is the point in the season where we'd like him to start firing anyway.


I think his team mates are still learning what sort of passes they need to give him to open up the chances. You can see him giving them feedback when their efforts dont work out.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 6 years ago

Wow!! Team of the week includes Marinovic, Devere, Cacace, Steinmann and Hooper.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 6 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

james dean wrote:

that was a good win,, our attack can be a bit sterile but our defence is very good. Wasn't as impressed with TAHW as some, I thought his passing was noticeably wayward in the period before he went off. Also thought Steinmann was bypassed too easily on their inside left channel where there was a lot of space. I think we're starting to see what Hooper is capable of. 

I saw that too, but I thought that was because Payne's absence and lack of natural understanding between Steiny and TAHW. Bound to happen when you have a personnel change.

To be fair Payne isn't guiltless in giving away the ball with wayward passes either. I thought both TAHW and Wilson were competent enough stand ins for a stand in fullback.

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about 6 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

Marto wrote:

Mainland FC wrote:

The Savior wrote:

Christchurch based fans - We will be at Robbie's Riccarton again - 15th Feb - 7:00pm Kick off

Turn out was awesome last time.

All welcome.

We have overseas visitors - a family of four from Denmark - staying with us this weekend, so I thought I may have to miss it.  However, after a few words, it looks like I am bringing them with me to Robbies tonight.  They're looking forward to shirts off at 80 minutes.

Did they get their shirts off?  Better weather in Welli then Denmark right now for that!!!

Well, they were reluctant, so I led by example, and you would not believe the sheer number of howls "Geez put it back on" from the room packed with YF at Robbies. Some people just have no appreciation of the girth diversity.

I feel we should rename the zone this or at least have a round of fixtures promoting it. 

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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about 6 years ago

Alf Tupper wrote:

Boro4eva wrote:

valeo wrote:

bennie99 wrote:

valeo wrote:

I thought we were a lot better 2nd half. A bit more quality from the likes of McCowatt and we would've have a 2nd.

McCowatt's first touch is very poor at times, he's gotta work harder at that if he wants to advance at this level.

But a pretty gritty performance especially defensively tonight. I think we are pretty tough mentally this season so far, which is a bit of a change from some past seasons.

That poor clearance from a City defender which went straight to him, in the box, with no defenders around him..and then his touch let him down. That sums him up at the moment. He's just not quite at this level for me; maybe he'll get there, maybe he won't.

Was that his game back in the Handa?..seems to me that he is just lacking touch most of the time and perhaps confidence to give it more of a go.


yes and the slagging off that he is getting on these pages is hardly going to help. And please don’t tell me that the players don’t read this stuff. Keyboard warriors are entitled to their opinions and express them but they might want to ask how they would feel if their work was subject to the same level of public scrutiny and very often harsh judgment. Sotirio, Rufer, Payne and McCowatt in particular have been subject to some pretty harsh commentary.

To me McCowatt looks like a talented player finding his feet at this level, rather than being a player that isn’t cutting it. You can see he has talent and while not faultless (and who isn’t at this level?) you can see he is not afraid to try things, his work rate is high too. 
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