Hmmm. Placing Ifill in front of Fenton, and Cunningham in front of Caira, and leaving Lia and Stein in the middle was a bad idea. When we shifted to 3 up front, people seemed to know their roles a bit better. Some curious subs. I think Reira was excellent tonight given what he had to mitigate....
Was ernie just about to bring on boxall when they equalised? Ahh, what a different game it could have been.....
Has anyone mentioned the commentator ?
"Wellington Phoenis"
"Wellington Phoenich"
*We have a chance in front of goal* "opportunity for Perth"
*Ifill on the ball* "here's Cunningham"
*Ifill scores* "Great goal by Cunningham"
Literally worse than Dewhurst.
Ernie's presser's refreshing and is worth a look. Has substance in his post match stuff.
http://video.news.com.au/v/160452/Wellington-presser
- thought our midfield was outplayed the whole game .. thinks best available midfield is Hernandez, Lia and Riera .. is looking for a midfield player in the Jan window .. can't explain why the side lacks killer instinct at the moment, cited the 3rd goal when a Perth player went down, and the defence just stopped .. says kids aren't ready for this level yet (Ridenton and Rufer) .. missed Muscat in defence badly .. defence were unusually poor late in the game .. Hernandez unlikely to be ready for next game .. doesn't need to tell the players which ones played badly, as they know themselves.
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Fenton wasn't that bad. His was a commentators performance, defined by the no of times the commentators kept saying he's had a really tough night (which they had obviously predetermined on the basis that he would have a hard time marking Sidney). He had a couple of bad touches, one chest in particular, but actually that guy Sidney didn't get round him or expose him.
Who still thinks ifill should only be allowed to start on the bench?
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Fenton, Riera, Hicks...great advert for the ASB Premiership...
Fenton, Riera, Hicks...great advert for the ASB Premiership...
Three for me, and two for them.
Well I gave up 3 hours of sleep and had to get up again at 5:15am to come to work. The game was reasonably good to watch except the shit passing, the lack of someone pulling the trigger in front of their goal - and when we did, we scored two great goals.
We should not have lost that game and sorry to say IMHO our back four defence was shit for the last 30 mins. At sixes and 7's all the time. Fenton could be a good fullback but he's been left out to dry by a midfield that isn't there far too often. Siggy & Durante were not playing their best. and I think Manny has now found out that he's our best Left Back option. But who do we replace Riera with?
Very disappointed we didn't beat them. Moss pulled off a few excellent saves in there and then went and did a Robert Green for their last.
Still, the team are playing a lot more attractive type football when their passes actually go to our players. I'd rather watch this than hoofball any day.
Sorry if this ramblimg doesn't make sense. 3 hours sleep and I'm knackered and still working.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Hmmm. Placing Ifill in front of Fenton, and Cunningham in front of Caira, and leaving Lia and Stein in the middle was a bad idea. When we shifted to 3 up front, people seemed to know their roles a bit better. Some curious subs. I think Reira was excellent tonight given what he had to mitigate....
Was ernie just about to bring on boxall when they equalised? Ahh, what a different game it could have been.....
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
As an aside, does anyone else apart from me think that young Caira is actually not coping very well in his position? With two young fullbacks we seem to be easily found out when there is no midfield support, like last night.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
As an aside, does anyone else apart from me think that young Caira is actually not coping very well in his position? With two young fullbacks we seem to be easily found out when there is no midfield support, like last night.
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I am not sold on Riera to be honest. Finding it very hard to justify him as an import player right now.
Caira like Fenton , is a natural midfield player that has been turned into a full back . When representing australian youth teams he has never played fullback always centre mid . both games for wanderers last season he played in midfield . As pointed out with a no help from the midfield at all it would be hard on any defender . Maybe Fenton and Caira should get a run in the middle of the ground in the near future , at least they would be able to cover some ground and offer support
Ernie's presser's refreshing and is worth a look. Has substance in his post match stuff.
http://video.news.com.au/v/160452/Wellington-presser
- thought our midfield was outplayed the whole game .. thinks best available midfield is Hernandez, Lia and Riera .. is looking for a midfield player in the Jan window .. can't explain why the side lacks killer instinct at the moment, cited the 3rd goal when a Perth player went down, and the defence just stopped .. says kids aren't ready for this level yet (Ridenton and Rufer) .. missed Muscat in defence badly .. defence were unusually poor late in the game .. Hernandez unlikely to be ready for next game .. doesn't need to tell the players which ones played badly, as they know themselves.
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"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
I am not sold on Riera to be honest. Finding it very hard to justify him as an import player right now.
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As an aside, does anyone else apart from me think that young Caira is actually not coping very well in his position? With two young fullbacks we seem to be easily found out when there is no midfield support, like last night.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
the amount of hacks in our midfield is incredible. We should use our import spots for some south american flair or some quality european playmaking in the midfield because when we have no carlos in there, the end result is playing strikers/wingers in the midfield. As for fenton, he appears to be a on/off player so we will have to wait and see how he progresses, he's still better than Caira. Riera can go, I have never seen someone as on par with vinnie lia as him. Thank god iffy is coming back into form to compensate for brockies lack of skills. To be honest I did not expect much of this season, but if we go wooden spoon two in a row I might have to kill myself. I guess a few more 'how to pass to your team mates for dummies' will be implimented in training this week, also a special on how to tackle, track and mark 12 year olds would be good.
yung thug
On the post match vid Ernie looked a bit flat.....which is not surprising. He came back into the A-League after a few years absence and there was quite a bit of comment from across the ditch about him being "yesterdays man" and how the A-league had moved on since he was coaching. So he obviously had a point to prove. The reality is that he has a threadbare squad in terms of experiance and quality. His best attacking players Ifill, Carlos, Stein are all in their early thirties. There is a huge jump in squad experiance back to the kids. Many of whom are just starting out on their careers.
As has been constantly restated many of looked at the squad at the start of the season and said we were 2 or 3 quality players short. Now with injuries and suspensions our lack of depth is really starting to show up badly.....you can't rely on a schoolboy to shore up your midfield defense when you are holding a lead....not fair on the kid.
Good luck to him recruiting quality in January.....who would want to come to the arse end of the world to play for a team that is arse end of the comp for two years in a row.
The reality is that he has a threadbare squad in terms of experiance and quality. His best attacking players Ifill, Carlos, Stein are all in their early thirties.
Next week we play like last week with the goals of this week and everyone will be happy.
So we will sub late in the second half and go to pieces?
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
Dont know if it's a tactic from Ernie but I wasn't impressed with moss's distribution. Everytime he gets it he smashes it long at our forwards who can't win the header. Pretty frustrating.
Dont know if it's a tactic from Ernie but I wasn't impressed with moss's distribution. Everytime he gets it he smashes it long at our forwards who can't win the header. Pretty frustrating.
I said this last week. Ernie can at least take the blame for this. Generally, we just coughed up the ball way to much to expect to win away from home
Has anyone mentioned the commentator ?
"Wellington Phoenis"
"Wellington Phoenich"
*We have a chance in front of goal* "opportunity for Perth"
*Ifill on the ball* "here's Cunningham"
*Ifill scores* "Great goal by Cunningham"
Literally worse than Dewhurst.
It was dire commentary last night
I am not sold on Riera to be honest. Finding it very hard to justify him as an import player right now.
I thought he was generally very good until he started hacking them down
Anyone know a good witchdoctor to lift our curse? What about that one John Safran used to get Australia to the WC for the first time in ages - how do we get hold of him?
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
As an aside, does anyone else apart from me think that young Caira is actually not coping very well in his position? With two young fullbacks we seem to be easily found out when there is no midfield support, like last night.
We have no quality midfield - need 2 A League quality midfielders - rest will take care of itself. Owners need to realise this. Long wait till Fenton, Rufer and any other youngies are anywhere near ready. Story of the club's history really.
As an aside, does anyone else apart from me think that young Caira is actually not coping very well in his position? With two young fullbacks we seem to be easily found out when there is no midfield support, like last night.
We have no quality midfield - need 2 A League quality midfielders - rest will take care of itself. Owners need to realise this. Long wait till Fenton, Rufer and any other youngies are anywhere near ready. Story of the club's history really.
Queenslander 3x a year.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
I'd be more than happy to deal with his attitude if he scored 15-20 goals a season.
Queenslander 3x a year.
The reality is that he has a threadbare squad in terms of experiance and quality. His best attacking players Ifill, Carlos, Stein are all in their early thirties.
I think if you're really want to be all doom and gloom on the Phoenix, this is the number 1 area of concern. Not just those three guys you mentioned, but also Siggy and Dura at the back. All over 30, all with declining powers. Yet these are still some (if not all) our best players. How do you replace all that given the challenges in recruitment we've experienced over the years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
what are the goalkeeping stocks like, moss out, spoonley in.
On another note god the defending is naiive
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Luckily I could fast forward it on myski this morning. The passing has improved but it is forced and one dimensional too often..very little mixing it up. This is a team still struggling to play what is expected of them. Funny setup with 4-1-4-1. Good to score and then leaked double. Perth were pacier....Brisbane next week will be da\unting.
A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen
Fenton, Riera, Hicks...great advert for the ASB Premiership...
As an aside, does anyone else apart from me think that young Caira is actually not coping very well in his position? With two young fullbacks we seem to be easily found out when there is no midfield support, like last night.
We have no quality midfield - need 2 A League quality midfielders - rest will take care of itself. Owners need to realise this. Long wait till Fenton, Rufer and any other youngies are anywhere near ready. Story of the club's history really.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
As an aside, does anyone else apart from me think that young Caira is actually not coping very well in his position? With two young fullbacks we seem to be easily found out when there is no midfield support, like last night.
We have no quality midfield - need 2 A League quality midfielders - rest will take care of itself. Owners need to realise this. Long wait till Fenton, Rufer and any other youngies are anywhere near ready. Story of the club's history really.
Yeah I think most here over rate our central defenders. Sig is very agricultural (bonus for a big heart) and Dura is average at best, but certainly they aren't helped by a piss poor midfield that wouldn't make the bench for most other sides. If it was me I'd replace all four backs, find one decent non hot headed DM (sick of seeing two DM's that end up being 6 headless chooks who play the ball back to the attacking side, who of course have acres of time and space) a couple of go forward/track back athletic midfielders ( maybe Fenton???, maybe not ) and a forward to play in front of Stein.
Really we only have a few players worth keeping. Stein,Ifill, Carlos, Fenton and maybe Kenny ( if we could play some football I'm sure he has more to offer ). Two good points from the game, Stein should be playing alongside Carlos in an AM role. Pretty obvious to most its where he belongs. And Ifill is back. On the replacements, yes midfield is the obvious priority. We are way short in the athlete department.
We need at least 1 full back, at least 1 centre half, at least 1 central midfielder, and at least 1 striker.
Easy enough...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
We need at least 1 full back, at least 1 centre half, at least 1 central midfielder, and at least 1 striker.
Easy enough...
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Pantelidis off to Malaysia. Won't play Against Nix this week
Perth will be without Panteledis, Jameson, Burns and Gallas and possibly Smeltz.
If we win it will allow Steve-O to say it was against a weakened team I guess!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone