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Ricki Herbert: 3-match ban; Dodd's red expunged

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In other news, the FFA has issued Kevin Muscat with a suspended fine after last week's match and he is free to play in the Melbourne derby on Saturday night.
 
Sickening to hear the Foxsports mob soft-soaping the whole thing in front of special guest tonight, you guessed it, Muscat himself. It was "regrettable but a storm in a teacup, common sense prevails blah blah blah". Disgraceful.
 
To all you kids out there, if the game doesn't go the way you want it to go it's perfectly OK to abuse someone and punch them in the stomach. If Kev can do it you can too.
 
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Didn't the wrong muscat doing something before the first Melbin derby and got off a suspension?
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2ndBest wrote:
Didn't the wrong muscat doing something before the first Melbin derby and got off a suspension?
 
 
...and got away with Match Betting when a team mate got stung a bunch of weeks...
 
I'm sick to death of Musc*nt getting away with murder and the FFA + Foxsports playing the situation down. It's getting quite boring!!!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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StopOut wrote:
In other news, the FFA has issued Kevin Muscat with a suspended fine after last week's match and he is free to play in the Melbourne derby on Saturday night.
 
Sickening to hear the Foxsports mob soft-soaping the whole thing in front of special guest tonight, you guessed it, Muscat himself. It was "regrettable but a storm in a teacup, common sense prevails blah blah blah". Disgraceful.
 
To all you kids out there, if the game doesn't go the way you want it to go it's perfectly OK to abuse someone and punch them in the stomach. If Kev can do it you can too.
 
Muscat and common sense....miles apart...FFA are a disgrace...SUSPENDED BAND FOR RICKY....yeah right.
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Full release...

Football Federation Australia (FFA) has handed down an official reprimand and a suspended $1,500 fine to Melbourne Victory player Kevin Muscat following the post match incident of the Week 17 match between Melbourne Victory and Brisbane Roar at AAMI Park. 

FFA determined that a breach of the National Code of Conduct (Code) had taken place. Specifically, the actions of the Player have been found to have brought the game into disrepute. 

The suspended fine will be triggered in the event of a further breach of the Code in the remainder of the current Hyundai A-League season, including any finals series matches.

Muscat brings the the Game into Disrepute EVERY time he steps on the pitch....
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Hebert suspension reduced to one match
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yea was just watching sports tonight and they said they didnt know yet???
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Hard News wrote:
Sauce ?
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/08/3088485.htm?site=sport�ion=football

[quote]Herbert's A-League ban reduced
Posted December 8, 2010 21:23:00

The Wellington Phoenix has successfully had the length of Ricki Herbert's A-League ban reduced after the coach was initially suspended for three matches.

Football Federation Australia handed Herbert a revised one-game suspension, with a suspended ban of one more game.

An independent match review panel imposed the ban after Herbert was ejected late in the Phoenix defeat of Adelaide in Christchurch on Sunday for the "use of offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures against a match official".

The Wellington club's initial appeal, alleging an "obvious error", was dismissed by FFA's disciplinary committee.

- AAP
valeo2010-12-08 23:35:58

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Dewhurst announced it at about 11.05 on radio sport, reading from a press release form the FFA
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sucks.  all our plans are now down the tube
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2ndBest wrote:
sucks.� all our plans are now down the tube


Lets do it anyway, its a bit of fun and will look great on TV.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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atleast they had the sense to drop it to one.


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"This is by no means an admission of guilt on the part of Ricki Herbert and the club"
Hells yeas, no surrender to the FFA!
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maybe the Ricki figure from the backbencher could fill the 'Commanders Seat'

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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goldienz wrote:
maybe the Ricki figure from the backbencher could fill the 'Commanders Seat'


That would be amazing, model Ricki sitting in the middle of the Yellow Fever as our God, and all of us worshiping him.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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Quite an interesting decision by the FFA. The referee's report won't change, so they are basically admitting that they made a mistake when they handed out the intial ban. Still, at least they admitted they were wrong. Thankfully.Jag2010-12-09 12:56:31

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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...just suppose what he said was actually that bad; because it was. He's got out of this by the skin of his teeth...and in doing so antagonised every ref in the A-League because the word gets around ...it's easy to do the weekly ref-bashing blah blah, despite the Dodd decision which might have been as simple as being unsighted/obstructed view.  Look at the issue - if RH hadn't started it then the ref wouldn't have had to finish it.
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newsflash wrote:
...just suppose what he said was actually that bad; because it was. He's got out of this by the skin of his teeth...and in doing so antagonised every ref in the A-League because the word gets around ...it's easy to do the weekly ref-bashing blah blah, despite the Dodd decision which might have been as simple as being unsighted/obstructed view.  Look at the issue - if RH hadn't started it then the ref wouldn't have had to finish it.
 
Won't find me arguing about that. Whether we like it or not, Ricki obviously pushed it too far on the day.
Jag2010-12-09 14:33:10

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I don't think it helped he had bagged the quality of the refs in the a-league after the handball vs Sydney. Bet they were just WAITING for him to do something wrong.

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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Got to agree, the ref baiting is over the top..
 
Durante was out of order with his rant, he fouled, got penailsed and had more than enough snipe's about it.
 
Apart from getting Dodds sending off what else did the Ref do wrong?
 
 
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I always look at it from the point of view that we are quick to bag other teams when their players do dumb sh*t (take Muscat this week for example) so we should hold our players the that same standard or better. I think that because I have a vest emotional interest in the team, they represent me. When Frank got tossed last year, we gave him assholes but when Rick does it, we defend him. The only time I can recall we've actually bagged our own player as being a dumb ass was Siggy and that punch on Leijer.

Its ok to be one eyed, but to a point.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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That final statement is odd-you-see, beacuse many fans with emotional vested interest can't be objective.
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I have no problem with Ricki being sent off, I have no problem with a one match ban, but without knowing exactly what was said, I had a huge problem with a 3 week ban, as this is grossly in excess of any ban I have ever heard of in the league for a similar offense (especially in the same week where Muscat gets away with laying his hands on an opposition coach).
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aitkenmike wrote:
I have no problem with Ricki being sent off, I have no problem with a one match ban, but without knowing exactly what was said, I had a huge problem with a 3 week ban, as this is grossly in excess of any ban I have ever heard of in the league for a similar offense (especially in the same week where Muscat gets away with laying his hands on an opposition coach).
 
Agree completely - I guess the fact the ban was reduced on appeal shows the disciplinary process, albeit flawed and inconsistent, can work.
 
I'm sure most of us have lost our rag from time to time and the match situation last weekend when Herbert lost his was particularly intense but
 
we have a few hot heads in Nix who, to their credit, have for the most part kept a reasonable rein on their tempers - the last thing we need is the coach setting a poor behavioural example.
 
One of the few things I like about rugby and league is only the captain can talk to the ref and dissent is jumped on hard.
 
Football does itself no favours, in terms of attracting fans in this part of the world, by allowing players to get away with verbally haranguing the ref let along the ridiculous theatrics every time they get" injured".
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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aitkenmike wrote:
I have no problem with Ricki being sent off, I have no problem with a one match ban, but without knowing exactly what was said, I had a huge problem with a 3 week ban, as this is grossly in excess of any ban I have ever heard of in the league for a similar offense (especially in the same week where Muscat gets away with laying his hands on an opposition coach).


I see your point.
Perhaps the only way we will ever know what was said etc. is if we read about it on Wikileaks.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Whitby boy wrote:
One of the few things I like about rugby and league is only the captain can talk to the ref and dissent is jumped on hard.
Football does itself no favours, in terms of attracting fans in this part of the world, by allowing players to get away with verbally haranguing the ref l....
 


Agreed. Please can Referees start dishing out cards to players who ask the ref to give cards to other team in order to gain advatgae... Ungentemanly conduct surely
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P.s Only Fans should be able to harangue the ref
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Leggy wrote:
aitkenmike wrote:
I have no problem with Ricki being sent off, I have no problem with a one match ban, but without knowing exactly what was said, I had a huge problem with a 3 week ban, as this is grossly in excess of any ban I have ever heard of in the league for a similar offense (especially in the same week where Muscat gets away with laying his hands on an opposition coach).


I see your point.
Perhaps the only way we will ever know what was said etc. is if we read about it on Wikileaks.
 
 
 Needs more Rickileaks!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Agreed, Ref's are WAY too soft on players who talk back, Brown talks back too much to ref's, he and so many other players should be getting cards, tbh.
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My two penny's worth is that O'Leary has officiated in 9 or 10 nix games this season (I would suppose on the basis of costing less for him to do so) but that is way too many... things inevitiably get carried over from week to week. It is great to see we have been allocated O'Leary again for the game against the Jets!

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I told you guys it was gonna be cut down to 1 or 2. O'Leary over-reacted. period.

VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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I told you guys it was gonna be cut down to 1 or 2. O'Leary over-reacted. period.
 
Absolute nonsense.  The referee merely sent Ricki from the Technical Area.  O'Leary didn't hand out the ban, the FFA did. There is also the small point that, unless you actually know what was said, you don't know if the referee over reacted, do you?
 
The fact that Ricki is STILL banned, even though it has been reduced, shows that O'Leary didn't over react, but the FFA did when they gave him the 3 match ban in the first place..
Jag2010-12-10 09:46:33

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
I told you guys it was gonna be cut down to 1 or 2. O'Leary over-reacted. period.



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Absolute nonsense. �The referee merely sent Ricki from the Technical Area.��O'Leary didn't hand out the ban, the FFA did. There is also the small point that, unless you actually know what was said, you don't know if the referee over reacted, do you?

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The fact that Ricki is STILL banned, even though�it has been reduced,�shows that O'Leary didn't over react, but the FFA did when they gave him the 3 match ban in the first place..


Agreed.
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C.T. wrote:
P.s Only Fans should be able to harangue the ref


^^ this.
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I watched O'Leary go up to Ricki and ask him to leave, but Ricki was not actually shown a card. Are they meant to be shown a card are they not? Any refs able to explain the rules in this regard?? Jag?
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