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Ross cited for elbow in roar game(plus Griffiths)

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DrQuack32 wrote:
I take the point of view is that yeah, I'm a ref, I'm going to get sh*t and I don't mind one bit. In the end, I'm a regular jo like everyone else and its not me they hate, but the my shirt and what it means. Still doesn't mean you get the right to disrespect me by assaulting me. You wanna play that then its open season.


I was genuinely i) amused and ii) impressed by your response

I do think you and the other refs on this forum do a good job of reminding us that there is a real human inside the shirt.

I also quite like the image of ducks declaring open season .

Have a good un
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Teza wrote:
Looking at the FFA regulations shouldn't  they now charge Griffiths under their code of bringing the game into disrepute as it is a seperate matter from the laws of the game?

That only applies if the matter was violent Conduct not dealt with by the match officials, on the pitch, which exactly what Ross is getting chalked up for.
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This is just f**king unfair. How the FFA can let Griffiths get off scot free when it's on tape for everyone to see is beyond me.

a.haak

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
dugdale got life for headbutting a ref didnt he?
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DrQuack32 wrote:
Teza wrote:
Looking at the FFA regulations shouldn't  they now charge Griffiths under their code of bringing the game into disrepute as it is a seperate matter from the laws of the game?

That only applies if the matter was violent Conduct not dealt with by the match officials, on the pitch, which exactly what Ross is getting chalked up for.
 
You can hardly say the match officials " DEALT WITH THIS INCIDENT "  [Griffiths].  If you can not see someone from 2 metres away " having a swing at you " your eye sight must be poor. The offical in my view had no courage to make the the hard call and have the player sent off. He has let all referee's down big time in his handling of this incident.
 
ps; what did  Griffiths get booked for ?  anyone know 
 
Ken Dugdale got life, but was allowed to coach a few years later
ChopperHarris2007-10-09 14:17:08
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ps; what did  Griffiths get booked for ?  anyone know 

Well it obviously wasn't for striking a match official. Dissent by word or action??? Depends on what the AR told the referee (once again)
DrQuack322007-10-09 14:21:58
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Maybe we need Professional Referees to officiate in our League like the in the EPL?

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DrQuack32 wrote:
ps; what did  Griffiths get booked for ?  anyone know 

Well it obviously wasn't for striking a match official. Dissent by word or action??? Depends on what the AR told the referee (once again)
 
Suppose " Striking The  AR " is showing dissent.
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DrQuack32 wrote:
Teza wrote:
Looking at the FFA regulations shouldn't  they now charge Griffiths under their code of bringing the game into disrepute as it is a seperate matter from the laws of the game?

That only applies if the matter was violent Conduct not dealt with by the match officials, on the pitch, which exactly what Ross is getting chalked up for.
 
But bringing the game into disrepute is outside of the laws relating to an actual game i.e. a referee can't make a call on this as it is nothing to do with the actual laws of tha game but the rules of the FFA.
 
 It is from what I can see purely a call on whether someone has sullied the good name of the sport by some action eithier on or off the pitch and  decided by the FFA(i'll have another read of the clause to make sure I'm not spouting rubbish as usual).
 
Mind you they are Australian so their definition of "disrepute" is different from the rest of us
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as stated above, rules is rules - if the ref catches and punishes the offence, then it is considered over and done with. If the ref misses it, it can be dealt with later.That way, the offence does not get double punishment.


I doubt the FFA would stick to that if, say, Aloisi punched two QLD players and knocked them out. I'm sure they would try to give him an extra suspension as well as the red card he would have got for doing those acts, so why should Griffiths be any different?
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This won't last long, but quality work from someone.  Read the last few paragraphs.

Wikipedia wrote:
Joel Griffiths (born August 21, 1979) is an Australian football (soccer) player. A right sided attacking midfielder, he currently plays for Newcastle United Jets in his native Australia. He made this transfer on July 31st 2006 for an undisclosed fee after a brief spell in England with Leeds United, having signed from Swiss club Neuchatel Xamax on January 17, 2006. He only managed two substitute appearances for Leeds, it is rumored that he did not have a good relationship with the manager at Leeds.[citation needed]

His previous clubs were Sydney United, Parramatta Power and Newcastle United in the now defunct NSL. He represented Australia at the FIFA World Youth Championship in Nigeria in 1999. Griffiths made his debut for the full national team on October 9, 2005 against Jamaica, scoring a goal before celebrating by hopping up and down like a Kangaroo. This was Australia's final warm up match before their World Cup qualifier playoff match against Uruguay. Many suggest that Joel would have played in this famous match had it not been for his falling out with the Leeds manager, which cost him match time.[citation needed] This also impacted on his chances of playing in the 2006 FIFA World Cup, which Australia qualified for after beating Uruguay on penalties.[citation needed]

His twin brother Adam also plays for the Newcastle Jets.

In a recent derby against the Central Coast Mariners, this oxygen thieving piece of sh*t proved what a low life scummer he really is by punching an assistant referee in the groin, after a decision did not go his way. No further action was taken by Uncle Frank and the spineless dicks at the FFA.

Joel Griffiths continued existence in this Universe serves to prove the fact that there is no justice in the world.

Griffiths will be punched in the balls by many people in the future, so that they may have an opportunity to get off scot free, whilst at the same time yelling "like that, bitch?" in his face.

Joel Griffiths currently resides in Dickheadville, Scumtown. He breathes coal dust on a daily basis, which has clearly already addled his feeble brain and his possession of a Squadron scarf only continues to serve as proof, that he is a dickhead.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:
This won't last long, but quality work from someone.  Read the last few paragraphs.

Wikipedia wrote:
Joel Griffiths (born August 21, 1979) is an Australian football (soccer) player. A right sided attacking midfielder, he currently plays for Newcastle United Jets in his native Australia. He made this transfer on July 31st 2006 for an undisclosed fee after a brief spell in England with Leeds United, having signed from Swiss club Neuchatel Xamax on January 17, 2006. He only managed two substitute appearances for Leeds, it is rumored that he did not have a good relationship with the manager at Leeds.[citation needed]

His previous clubs were Sydney United, Parramatta Power and Newcastle United in the now defunct NSL. He represented Australia at the FIFA World Youth Championship in Nigeria in 1999. Griffiths made his debut for the full national team on October 9, 2005 against Jamaica, scoring a goal before celebrating by hopping up and down like a Kangaroo. This was Australia's final warm up match before their World Cup qualifier playoff match against Uruguay. Many suggest that Joel would have played in this famous match had it not been for his falling out with the Leeds manager, which cost him match time.[citation needed] This also impacted on his chances of playing in the 2006 FIFA World Cup, which Australia qualified for after beating Uruguay on penalties.[citation needed]

His twin brother Adam also plays for the Newcastle Jets.

In a recent derby against the Central Coast Mariners, this oxygen thieving piece of sh*t proved what a low life scummer he really is by punching an assistant referee in the groin, after a decision did not go his way. No further action was taken by Uncle Frank and the spineless dicks at the FFA.

Joel Griffiths continued existence in this Universe serves to prove the fact that there is no justice in the world.

Griffiths will be punched in the balls by many people in the future, so that they may have an opportunity to get off scot free, whilst at the same time yelling "like that, bitch?" in his face.

Joel Griffiths currently resides in Dickheadville, Scumtown. He breathes coal dust on a daily basis, which has clearly already addled his feeble brain and his possession of a Squadron scarf only continues to serve as proof, that he is a dickhead.




Oh thats gold....was it written by you News?


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No, I found the link and quote on the Sydney forum, but it's nice to see I'm not alone.

My bet is with the mention of a Squadron scarf it was probably a Mariners fan.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:
This won't last long, but quality work from someone.  Read the last few paragraphs.

Wikipedia wrote:
Joel Griffiths (born August 21, 1979) is an Australian football (soccer) player. A right sided attacking midfielder, he currently plays for Newcastle United Jets in his native Australia. He made this transfer on July 31st 2006 for an undisclosed fee after a brief spell in England with Leeds United, having signed from Swiss club Neuchatel Xamax on January 17, 2006. He only managed two substitute appearances for Leeds, it is rumored that he did not have a good relationship with the manager at Leeds.[citation needed]

His previous clubs were Sydney United, Parramatta Power and Newcastle United in the now defunct NSL. He represented Australia at the FIFA World Youth Championship in Nigeria in 1999. Griffiths made his debut for the full national team on October 9, 2005 against Jamaica, scoring a goal before celebrating by hopping up and down like a Kangaroo. This was Australia's final warm up match before their World Cup qualifier playoff match against Uruguay. Many suggest that Joel would have played in this famous match had it not been for his falling out with the Leeds manager, which cost him match time.[citation needed] This also impacted on his chances of playing in the 2006 FIFA World Cup, which Australia qualified for after beating Uruguay on penalties.[citation needed]

His twin brother Adam also plays for the Newcastle Jets.

In a recent derby against the Central Coast Mariners, this oxygen thieving piece of sh*t proved what a low life scummer he really is by punching an assistant referee in the groin, after a decision did not go his way. No further action was taken by Uncle Frank and the spineless dicks at the FFA.

Joel Griffiths continued existence in this Universe serves to prove the fact that there is no justice in the world.

Griffiths will be punched in the balls by many people in the future, so that they may have an opportunity to get off scot free, whilst at the same time yelling "like that, bitch?" in his face.

Joel Griffiths currently resides in Dickheadville, Scumtown. He breathes coal dust on a daily basis, which has clearly already addled his feeble brain and his possession of a Squadron scarf only continues to serve as proof, that he is a dickhead.
 
why am I being blamed for this?????????

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Outstanding.....my hatred for the Jets is growing with every post....and my hatred for Joel is rapidly catching yours News!
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Wikipedia wrote:
... No further action was taken by Uncle Frank and the spineless dicks at the FFA.
 
 
why am I being blamed for this?????????


You're not the uncle, more the drunk sweary grandfather with borderline dementia.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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I dont agree that this Griffiths incident has been dealt with by the ref on the field and therefore is not able to be further actioned.

By that argument you could say that the elbow by Aloisi has already been dealt with on the field, the ref saw nothing wrong with it, play went on and thats the end of the matter

The recording of the game at this level is to catch incidents that the ref did not see enough of at the time to make a correct decision on. We are not talking about offsides or balls out but violence that brings the game into disrepute

I believe a complaint should be made urgently by CCM team officials and acted upon. No way can this be overhepatitis2007-10-09 19:13:28
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its not like he elbowed him in the head- it was just a friendly tap in the guts to remind him not to climb all over him on corners like Qland were doing. Book the Korean for diving

Founder

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Yeah Griffith should be looking at a 1 year ban minimum and possibly a life time ban, a player got a one year ban at the fifa u-20 world cup for removing a card from the referees hand.
FFA will look like a joke if they let him get away with it.
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"Playing position Striker and linesman puncher"

hahahaha

a.haak

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brilliant!

and the more people who rark this up and poke the proverbial at the FFA the more they'll be forced to face reality - i.e that the rest of the world thinks whacking a linesman in the nuts is worth more than 1/4 of a match ban!!
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Anybody know the email address to use to contact the FFA?loyalgunner2007-10-09 20:36:30
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C-Diddy wrote:
Maybe we need Professional Referees to officiate in our League like the in the EPL?


Why? Wouldn't Griffiths have punched the lino in the knackers if he'd known he got paid for waving his flag around
Auckland Jag2007-10-09 20:49:52

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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DrQuack called it right:
The FFA confirmed Griffiths had been booked for "dissent by action" for the incident in the fourth minute of the spiteful top-of-the-table clash, tying their hands and ensuring he could not be hauled before a tribunal. If he had been red-carded, or even if no action had been taken by the referee, Griffiths could have faced a lengthy suspension. A red card would have opened the way for the FFA to refer the matter to its disciplinary tribunal to determine a suitable penalty, while no card at all would have allowed Griffiths to be cited.
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cheers for the FFA addy SiNZ, sent them an email, took the concerned parent angle, which is part of how i do feel about this

i reckon the FFA could find a way to take action if they thought there was enough public pressure to make it worth their while to do so

come to think of it, i realise Hyundai have no qualms about being associated with Aussies but wouldn't it be a bit 'commercially' sensitive to be publicy associated with a crew of beauracrats who turn a blind eye to the heinous crime of bollock-punching????
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Have sent them an email officially complaining and asking for it to be investigated, will be interested to see what, if anything, comes back
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I just want to say one thing. If Ross gets supended and Griffith doesn't, I'm going to wreck the place here!

G.

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holeinone wrote:
i agree its bad,if you strike an official it should be a red card,if the ref does not give the card it should be cited after game
 
I thought striking an official was an automatic life ban/ Ask Ken Dugdale. Don't tell me the Aussies are going down the same track as their League counterparts/ You know the story, Aussie players can do anything but Kiwi players get 3-5 weeks.
 
Same old Aussies, always cheating?? I was hoping the A-League would rise above that type of bullsh*t! Aloisi gets done for the elbow, Griffiths should get the life ban. it'll happen - Yeah Right!
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Lonegunmen wrote:
I thought striking an official was an automatic life ban/ Ask Ken Dugdale.......


..and while you're banned for life, you go on to become Coach of the National Team.

Actually it's not an automatic life ban. There was a Portugese player, Joao Pinto, who gave the ref a dig in the ribs in the 2002 World Cup and I think he only got 6 months.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/wc/story?id=217215&lang=en

Agree with your post tho', LG.
Auckland Jag2007-10-09 21:42:00

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Auckland Jag wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
I thought striking an official was an automatic life ban/ Ask Ken Dugdale.......


..and while you're banned for life, you go on to become Coach of the National Team.

Actually it's not an automatic life ban. There was a Portugese player, Joao Pinto, who gave the ref a dig in the ribs in the 2002 World Cup (think it was the last WC) and I think he only got 6 months.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/wc/story?id=217215&lang=en

Agree with your post tho', LN.
 
And de Canio shoved one over completely and only got about 6 months too didn't he?
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And what was Keane's sentencing for kicking that fan in the face?

Sorry to disagree with you guys, but a life ban for what Griffiths did is ridiculous. He deserves to be punished, but definitely not banned for life.
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We've talked all the way round to repeating ourselves now. Di Canio was banned for 11 games and fined 10k GBP. FFA guidelines state violence towards a match official is 1 year to life.
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And what was Keane's sentencing for kicking that fan in the face?

Sorry to disagree with you guys, but a life ban for what Griffiths did is ridiculous. He deserves to be punished, but definitely not banned for life.



cantona??? in the chest??
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Cantona, not Keane. Fined 20k and banned for 9 months.
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SiNZ wrote:
We've talked all the way round to repeating ourselves now. Di Canio was banned for 11 games and fined 10k GBP. FFA guidelines state violence towards a match official is 1 year to life.



that usually means it's close to chucking out time, someone get a round in - quick
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There just needs to be a rewrite that says "yellows involving an incident with an official may be subject to review".  This would not be too far out of line with the FIFA policy and leaves the ref in charge of the game in relation to normal in play yellows.
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Cantona got  slammed for his Kung Fu kick.
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