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Sky Commentary Team

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about 12 years ago

I've never been asked to do TV and I'm not sure I'd want to. Firstly, tonya may well be right; I might not be any good at it. It's way different from radio (I'd imagine) and for what it's worth, I think Andrew does a good job - way better than I could for sure.

But the major reason it doesn't really appeal is that I'd have to leave the radio commentary box and therefore not work with Chotey and McHardy any more. Those guys are a bloody joy to call games with and our bosses allow us to bring passion and colour to our commentaries that we perhaps wouldn't be able to on other mediums. I know we are not everyone's cup of tea and that's fine ... but we are dedicated to delivering what our bosses want from us - excitement, enjoyment, vivid colour and a dose of parochialism. 

I simply love doing the radio commentaries and I feel very lucky to be able to do what I do and hope to continue for some time yet. God bless the Phoenix for the opportunities they have given me.

Cheers, Piney

I remember you playing for that quality Nelson Suburbs side in the 1990's under Colin Tua with Bartram Suri, Steve Tasker, Riki Van Steeden etc. You guys certainly played some very entertaining football and were capable of beating any national league side on your day.
Happy memories! I enjoy your work!

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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about 12 years ago

If Piney had been 10 years younger I'd have got him a trial somewhere but alas he was getting towards the end of his career. A very useful player too.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 12 years ago

Piney circle jerk complete.

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about 12 years ago
threatD wrote:

Piney circle jerk complete.






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about 12 years ago

How bad is the commentary tonight...


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 12 years ago

I"m not usually a fan, but tonight was the worst I've ever heard, in any sport, by anyone. Amazing. Were they both pissed?

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about 12 years ago

It was just an awful conversation about the A-League between Dewhurt and Harry for 90 minutes.. gah

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about 12 years ago

Why were they even talking about the A league playoff picture and Melbourne Heart during an international match between Japan and NZ?


Allegedly

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about 12 years ago

Dewhurst treats a football commentary like 90 minutes of dead air on his talk back show that he needs to fill up.  He does nothing to add to what the pictures are showing

Normo's coming home

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about 12 years ago
james dean wrote:
Dewhurst treats a football commentary like 90 minutes of dead air on his talk back show that he needs to fill up.  He does nothing to add to what the pictures are showing
200% this

Dewhurst reads this site. Dewhurst, can you practice the art of 'shut the fuck up?'

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:

Why were they even talking about the A league playoff picture and Melbourne Heart during an international match between Japan and NZ?

This.

Im sure this whole thing is part of Sky's ploy to ruin the hope of anyone actually wanting to watch football, so that they can justify not having to pay for rights to broadcast it.
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about 12 years ago

Just let us know what is happening on the field and i'll be happy.

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about 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
james dean wrote:
Dewhurst treats a football commentary like 90 minutes of dead air on his talk back show that he needs to fill up.  He does nothing to add to what the pictures are showing
200% this


Dewhurst reads this site. Dewhurst, can you practice the art of 'shut the fuck up?'

 

This is unlike you Jeff. Abusive and not really well thought through.

Dewhurst has to carry the television call. So he can't just shut up.

I agree with James Dean though, it does sound a bit like Dewy is covering the graveyard shift on talkback. There's not a lot of energy to it, and he often gets sidetracked rather than calling the game.

I am far from any kind of expert, but I think the general plan is that one guy JUST calls the game - who has the ball, who he is passing to, what runs are being made, who the tackler is, etc etc - and the other guy jumps in with bits of colour. 

The trouble I have with the commentary is the fact that nobody does that job. That, and they both sound like they'd rather be in bed.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 12 years ago

When it comes to Dewhurst, that's my usual MO - abusive and thoughtless. I really can not stand him for commentary.

Dewhurst does a fantastic job at Breakers games so this is not a 'he's just a fucking wanker' post. He does have skills for certain jobs. The Breakers is one, football commentary on TV is not.

 

Largely what you wrote, I agree with. He calls it like its a radio show and no one can see the action yet, we can! Some times, the pics speak for themselves. He is also poorly researched and makes numerous errors. I just think if he is going to be as monotone as Fred, then less is certainly better and shutting up is a far better option cause then its not just this 90min monotonous drone or as you say 'rather be in bed'

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
james dean wrote:
Dewhurst treats a football commentary like 90 minutes of dead air on his talk back show that he needs to fill up.  He does nothing to add to what the pictures are showing
200% this


Dewhurst reads this site. Dewhurst, can you practice the art of 'shut the fuck up?'

 


This is unlike you Jeff. Abusive and not really well thought through.


Dewhurst has to carry the television call. So he can't just shut up.


I agree with James Dean though, it does sound a bit like Dewy is covering the graveyard shift on talkback. There's not a lot of energy to it, and he often gets sidetracked rather than calling the game.


I am far from any kind of expert, but I think the general plan is that one guy JUST calls the game - who has the ball, who he is passing to, what runs are being made, who the tackler is, etc etc - and the other guy jumps in with bits of colour. 


The trouble I have with the commentary is the fact that nobody does that job. That, and they both sound like they'd rather be in bed.



I'm surprised someone at SKY doesn't sit these guys down and critique their performance.
They only have to listen to the commentary tandems on the EPL weekly highlights to hear how it should be done. 
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about 12 years ago · edited about 12 years ago · History
Jeff Vader wrote:

When it comes to Dewhurst, that's my usual MO - abusive and thoughtless. I really can not stand him for commentary.

Dewhurst does a fantastic job at Breakers games so this is not a 'he's just a fucking wanker' post. He does have skills for certain jobs. The Breakers is one, football commentary on TV is not.

 

Largely what you wrote, I agree with. He calls it like its a radio show and no one can see the action yet, we can! Some times, the pics speak for themselves. He is also poorly researched and makes numerous errors. I just think if he is going to be as monotone as Fred, then less is certainly better and shutting up is a far better option cause then its not just this 90min monotonous drone or as you say 'rather be in bed'


Jeff, I think you might have the wrong Andrew when it comes to the Breakers, thats Andrew Mulligan of The Crowd Goes Wild fame. I haven't watched them in a while so that could have changed.

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about 12 years ago

Ahhhhh did not know that, thanks for clearing that up News.

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about 12 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Dewhurst does (or did) do the stadium announcements at Breakers games.
The very same.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Dewhurst does (or did) do the stadium announcements at Breakers games.
The very same.

A cheerleader really. Starts imaginative chants like "lets go breakers lets go" 
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about 12 years ago

See? Ideally suited for the role.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 12 years ago
scribbler wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
james dean wrote:
Dewhurst treats a football commentary like 90 minutes of dead air on his talk back show that he needs to fill up.  He does nothing to add to what the pictures are showing
200% this


Dewhurst reads this site. Dewhurst, can you practice the art of 'shut the fuck up?'

 


This is unlike you Jeff. Abusive and not really well thought through.


Dewhurst has to carry the television call. So he can't just shut up.


I agree with James Dean though, it does sound a bit like Dewy is covering the graveyard shift on talkback. There's not a lot of energy to it, and he often gets sidetracked rather than calling the game.


I am far from any kind of expert, but I think the general plan is that one guy JUST calls the game - who has the ball, who he is passing to, what runs are being made, who the tackler is, etc etc - and the other guy jumps in with bits of colour. 


The trouble I have with the commentary is the fact that nobody does that job. That, and they both sound like they'd rather be in bed.



I'm surprised someone at SKY doesn't sit these guys down and critique their performance.
They only have to listen to the commentary tandems on the EPL weekly highlights to hear how it should be done. 

I think New Zealand sports commentary is general is very poor. You only have to look at the likes of Justin Marshall and Scotty Stevenson to realize that. I saw the NZ Maori vs USA rugby game last year and the American commentary was ten times better than what we have here. The problem is a lot of former All Blacks or former sports people get these roles and not the best communicators. 
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about 12 years ago
Luis Garcia wrote:
Justin Marshall and Scotty Stevenson
*shudder as a foul wind passes through the forum*
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about 12 years ago

carmo kid and ian smith?

with sideline comments from Murray Mexted?

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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about 12 years ago

Commentators - do they have any training or education? Do they know what they are trying to do?

Football commentary we get now is full of people talking over the game on the screen, rather than adding to the experience of it.

I really really wish Sky would give us a 'crowd noise' only option

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about 12 years ago

That's a bloody good idea. 

With rugby I noticed last week that they had a "referee noise only" type option. 


Allegedly

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about 12 years ago

I say move forward with the alternative commentary approach...


People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 12 years ago

Fred de Jong and Grant Fox could be twins, both are bad monotone boring commentatots.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 12 years ago

Dewhurst also does a lot of tennis commentary too. Although I dont watch enough tennis to know if he is actually good or not compared to others. His long pauses of saying nothing for extended periods of time seem to work alright though 

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about 12 years ago

Epic fail at tennis too. He is consistant, I will give him that.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

Dewhurst: a softball commentator these days.  What next?  Hopstotch?

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almost 12 years ago

Dewhurst: a softball commentator these days.  What next?  Hopstotch?



Get the 12th Man to do it, would be a barrel of laughs!

Maybe Andrew is turning into Sky's very own Eddie McGuire, keen as to do anything...

(see "The Final Dig?" by the 12th Man for more info on Mr McGuire and sports commentary, good and bad, in general)
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

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almost 12 years ago

Dewy also does the tennis and some rowing. He's everywhere. Like shit in a field.



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almost 12 years ago

Dewhurst and De Jong were at the Nix aftermatch function today. Nobody seemed even remotely interested in talking to Dewhurst.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 12 years ago

Stealing a living


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almost 12 years ago

I'm sure he's a nice guy but the commentary is just horrendous. Even the most exciting games sound dull with him at the mic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 12 years ago

De Jong is as exciting a commentator as he was a footballer. Dewhurst should stick to voice overs for Radio ads. These two are part of the problem with the whole package

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almost 12 years ago
Marto wrote:

Dewhurst: a softball commentator these days.  What next?  Hopstotch?



Get the 12th Man to do it, would be a barrel of laughs!

Maybe Andrew is turning into Sky's very own Eddie McGuire, keen as to do anything...

(see "The Final Dig?" by the 12th Man for more info on Mr McGuire and sports commentary, good and bad, in general)

I have all of Billy Birminghams 12th Man. He is brilliant.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 12 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:
Marto wrote:

Dewhurst: a softball commentator these days.  What next?  Hopstotch?



Get the 12th Man to do it, would be a barrel of laughs!

Maybe Andrew is turning into Sky's very own Eddie McGuire, keen as to do anything...

(see "The Final Dig?" by the 12th Man for more info on Mr McGuire and sports commentary, good and bad, in general)


I have all of Billy Birminghams 12th Man. He is brilliant.



I've got my Welsh and English mates on to him, the absolutely love the way he takes the piss out of us (NZ) at each and everything.  The way Dewhurst is operating the Sky Rugby commentatiors better watch out... thinking of you in particular Ian Smith  ;-)
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

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