Queenslander 3x a year.
would like to see elrich introduced at some point, and would be interested to see browny start in place of ferrante. nightz, no one minds you havin an opinion, but when it is an absurd opinion, you are going to be attacked. Moss playin quality. As said above, if Paston is number 1, he would be starting. Go on the nix, first home win!
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ffs nightz when will u give it up? time and time again u prove your footballing ignorance while the rest of us who watch and judge the phoenix know your claims have about as much substance as saying derby are gonna win the EPL.
dude, the thing is, if a striker gets a one on one chance against the keeper, he really should score...the defenders try their darnest to prevent that from happening for that reason. If the defenders mess up and a 1 on 1 occurs, yes sometimes the keeper should save but otherwise it's pretty fricken difficult to stop the majority going in. A conceded goal usually occurs with some error by a defender/midfielder/ even forward. That is not the keeper's fault. If the keeper fails to make a routine save, then that is bad...but so far (touch wood) Moss has made some damn good saves (i seen 'em) and not made any major mistakes...ipso facto, leave him be! I mean, Lochhead's mistake against Sydney was worse than anything Moss has done this season, but you're not suggesting we scrap him
maybe it's just a wind up? anyone else think it's a wind up?
maybe it's just a wind up? anyone else think it's a wind up?
possibly, if it is he should be shown the ban stick

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
I dont care if you dont agree with me. The sats speak for themselves, if you cant understand them go see blanket man, I'm sure he can make sense out of them. Just dont shot the messenger.
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whats your team pick Liverpoolfan?
you seem to know a lot - do you work in TV?
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u think i think derby will win??? now i really think your doing a wind up. sarcasm, i.e. what your saying about moss is about as stupid as believing that Derby will win the EPL
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now u've proved you havent watched the phoenix, and why u base so much opinion on stats. He played 10 minutes last game, made solid touches, helped in a goal..
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On what exactly are you basing this assertion?
whats your team pick Liverpoolfan?
Moss
Christie Dodd O'dor Lockheadnow u've proved you havent watched the phoenix, and why u base so much opinion on stats. He played 10 minutes last game, made solid touches, helped in a goal..
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Of that side though, Smeltz and Lochhead are almost certain to go, but other than that ?
I mean, if Mully and/or Oughton are available he might decide Plodder is better of staying here as he has depth there. Lochhead is close to a cert as we don't have many other options for left back unless Ivan plays there (and he hasn't since Kingz days with Wynton and Shane in charge).
If Lochhead goes I suspect Daniel will play Left back as he is experienced there and we've got lots of options to cover Smeltz if/when he goes.
Pretty sure he'll take only one of Moss or Paston, and maybe Banners.
Nightz, Have you ever watched the Nix play? It's not looking
good for a positive answer on that question... azyr052007-09-27
21:46:26
I cant think of any player I would drop yet from the lineup, they have generally been improving and that includes Ferrante and Moss
On the keepers, I get nervous when Moss goes for crosses, and nervous when Paston is one on one. Dont ask for specifics, just my impressions.
Wellington Phoenix squad: 1.Mark PASTON (gk), 2.Jeremy CHRISTIE, 3.Tony LOCHHEAD, 4.CLEBERSON, 5.Karl DODD, 6.Tim BROWN, 7.Ross ALOISI (captain), 8.Vaughan COVENY, 9.Shane SMELTZ, 10.Michael FERRANTE, 11.DANIEL, 12.Richard JOHNSON, 13.Steven OLD, 14.Steven O�DOR, 15.George PALADINI, 20.Glen MOSS (gk), 21.Felipe CAMPOS, 22.Royce BROWNLIE. *three to be omitted
In: Cleberson (promoted), Royce Brownlie (promoted), Tim
Brown (return to fitness)
Out: Nil
Others Unavailable: Vince Lia (thigh � 1 week), Ahmad Elrich (new to squad)
The stat proves that Ante Covic plays behind the worst set of defenders in the league as the opposition can get off 30 shots on target, nothing more.
DrQuack322007-09-28 06:50:44
Moss
Christie Dodd O'dor Lockhead*note: this is not a stab at you azyr05, just a handy example so advanced apologies and no offense intended*
Why do people persist with doing these lay outs and having people out of position? Richard Johnson is a holding midfielder, a ball winner, in the similar mold of Aloisi but time and time again, people list him on a right half or insist that he and Brown should be switched. They are completely different styled footballers. Brown is a distributer in the mold of Ferrante, not like Johnson who is a grunt man (which sparks another argument about people that don't understand football and think Johnson should be swapped for Brown, very irritating). Felipe is an attacking midfielder but people insist on listing him as a striker along side Smeltz.... Why???
A realistic assessment is that Ricki has stated possibly an extra striker and looking at the 18 I can deduce something similar like liverpoolfan1 did above. (Note there is some devils advocacy below but it just gives food for though and what Ricki might be thinking.)
In a 4-4-2 formation,:
*the back 5 will stay the same. Aloisi and Johnson will be your ball winners, Smeltz will play up front. Thus you need 2 ball players and another striker. Now while Daniel and Felipe are ball playing midfielders, their style is more ball-at-feet run at the opposition rather than the passing game (Felipe runs more so than Daniel). I'm not suggesting that Daniel or Felipe be dropped but does their style of football fit in with a 4-4-2 formation with 2 ball winning midfielders? You would then have no distributers in the team or midfield which would lead to be the ball being run not passed from the midfield. Is this Rickis style of football?? Elrich, Ferrante, and Brown are passing midfielders and I would suggest that the reason that Ferrante has held his spot in the starting line up is because A: he is fit and available and B: he is an opposite style of footballer to Daniel and Felipe and thus gives balance to the playing XI. He brings the distribution skills in the form of a passing game that maybe the others aren't as strong at. (see the ball that Ferrante laid off that led to Daniels penalty against Sydney)
*If you drop Johnson and play your two Brazilians and either Ferrante of Brown in the middle 4 alongside Aloisi, then you have one less ball winner (which has been the Phoenix's strength this year, possession in the middle of the pitch) Risking the loss of possession and dominance through the middle of the pitch would allow teams to run down the middle, because they haven't gotten past Lockhead or Christie out wide thus far. Do you allow teams to run directly at Dodd and O'Dor? They have played very well, but they have played well behind Aloisi and Johnson who have won possession and dominated the middle of the park not allowing oppositions to run at the back 2 through the middle. Leaving in Ferrante/Brown for Johnson does give you an added ball player from the middle of the park but at what cost to possession?
*Who do you play off Smeltz? Smeltz is a back to goal striker and holds the ball up for someone to run off him so you have to pick a striker that has a strength in running off a partner all day. Vaughan Coveny? Brownlie runs at the defense ala Felipe, haven't seen enough of George to be objective sorry
I don't have an answer or propose one but if Ricki picks the people for the formation, there might be a surprise. Food for thought above, I welcome objective criticism.
I'm sure I saw Kris Bouckenooghe playing at left back last year for a game and played well.
Maybe Paston has been practicing his Fantastic Four Reed Richards impersonation and has rubber arms that can stretch to save any ball? Maybe he has wings like Angle from X-Men 3 and can fly to get the ones from the top corner?
Yeah I know its a bit Hollywood, make believe. But so is nightz assertions....
DrQuack322007-09-28 07:03:20
Nightz, Have you ever watched the Nix play? It's not looking
good for a positive answer on that question...
Silly
question. I'll be silly and answer it. Yes. A dog with a bone :)
