To all YF, this is the time we all stick together as one group. Yes it is disappointing and frustrating but this is sport you have winners and you have losers. It hurts to lose I can tell you it is very painful. We are all hurting here in Perth and I know you are as well.
Ricki Herbert is the coach and will turn things around. He has the 100% backing of Terry and myself.
Sport is a cruel game and if you follow it long enough you will always end up hurting more than feeling the elation of winning but it is that elation that we all wait for and that�s what keeps us going. As a club we are remaining positive, yes we have not won a game but we are now focusing on Sydney. A win and things will change. We have the squad as we saw is the pre-season cup we just need the confidence to return which it will.
So the negativity stops now and we start the positive vibes for Sydney and 3 points. Come next Sunday we will have forgotten about the past and focus on the future.
I am proud to be associated with Wellington Phoenix FC and have watched this club evolve from nothing to where we are today. It is now for all of us to stay strong and remain positive.
C'mon the Nix
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fair enough, it's early days yet, to easy to critisize from our armchairs, gotta have faith, cmon the nix!!!!
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One positive for tonight Tony? Perth fans suck-4500? Your still cracking the 6k 
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Have to agree with Tony we need to continue to support the team no matter what. Next week will be a real test to see who the real Phoenix fans are. All I know is improvement is only 3 points away.
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Don't speak too soon brumbys.
Yeah. Bit worried about that now.
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We win a couple games and we're right back in it.
Had always thought that top 6 was a more realistic goal anyways.
Top 4 would be fantastic however!!
Nothing we can do but keep supporting,chant louder,and see what happens 
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Have to agree with Tony we need to continue to support�the team no matter what. Next week will be a real test to see who the real Phoenix fans are. All I know is improvement is only 3 points away.
Improvement is having a shot on target away...the negative comments here are a sign that we are here for the club, because they show we care. I've been venting my angst here for the last two hours, if we didn't care there wouldn't be this many people posting on a Sunday night...
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Sport is a cruel game and if you follow it long enough you will always end up hurting more than feeling the elation of winning but it is that elation that we all wait for and that�s what keeps us going. As a club we are remaining positive, yes we have not won a game but we are now focusing on Sydney. A win and things will change. We have the squad as we saw is the pre-season cup we just need the confidence to return which it will.
I've yet to see anything this season to be inspired by. To get inspired for games, I flick on to youtube to look at last season. Its not just the results, its the performances. Its hard to watch. THey barely pass to eachother, they create nothing going forward and we are bringing defenders on in the 86th minute when we're 1-0 down!
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Have to agree with Tony we need to continue to support the team no matter what. Next week will be a real test to see who the real Phoenix fans are. All I know is improvement is only 3 points away.
Improvement is having a shot on target away...the negative comments here are a sign that we are here for the club, because they show we care. I've been venting my angst here for the last two hours, if we didn't care there wouldn't be this many people posting on a Sunday night...
I agree, I am here because I love the club and I want everything to turn around from next week. I may be complaining about things but I'm putting my thoughts out there and I pray that any doubts I have will disappear with a win over Sydney.
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Kia Kaha!
Let's see the same spirit from the players and the coach!
Let's see the same spirit from the players and the coach!
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Well, I'm personally happy to hear that Ricki's job is safe for now, even though that remark about him having "our 100% backing" sounds suspiciously like one of those kiss-of-death statements.
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I've yet to see anything this season to be inspired by. To get inspired for games, I flick on to youtube to look at last season. Its not just the results, its the performances. Its hard to watch. THey barely pass to eachother, they create nothing going forward and we are bringing defenders on in the 86th minute when we're 1-0 down!
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give it a rest mate. played five drawn two lost three. its hardly cause to give up hope. sure the performances havent been great. but barring one game you can hardly doubt the players effort and passion. results will come. you want inspiration, support chelsea. you want to support the Phoenix, stay loyal. you think you can do a better job then RH, go along to training and say so to his face.
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Have to agree with Tony we need to continue to support the team no matter what. Next week will be a real test to see who the real Phoenix fans are. All I know is improvement is only 3 points away.
Improvement is having a shot on target away...the negative comments here are a sign that we are here for the club, because they show we care. I've been venting my angst here for the last two hours, if we didn't care there wouldn't be this many people posting on a Sunday night...
I agree, I am here because I love the club and I want everything to turn around from next week. I may be complaining about things but I'm putting my thoughts out there and I pray that any doubts I have will disappear with a win over Sydney.
I have no problem with people venting their frustration I can't see how people wouldn't be annoyed with the poor performances in recent weeks. In talking about real Phoenix fans I'm talking about those who are not going to show next week because we aren't winning or they don't like that Herbert is still in charge.
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I've yet to see anything this season to be inspired by. To get inspired for games, I flick on to youtube to look at last season. Its not just the results, its the performances. Its hard to watch. THey barely pass to eachother, they create nothing going forward and we are bringing defenders on in the 86th minute when we're 1-0 down!
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give it a rest mate. played five drawn two lost three. its hardly cause to give up hope. sure the performances havent been great. but barring one game you can hardly doubt the players effort and passion. results will come. you want inspiration, support chelsea. you want to support the Phoenix, stay loyal. you think you can do a better job then RH, go along to training and say so to his face.
Crikey, now I know why you're called 'the guvnor'!
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In terms of personnel, I honestly think we have one of the best squads in the league. It's just a matter of the team gelling together and finding a style of play that best suits us. It's been pretty disapointing so far, however this is because we all know that this team can do so much better! Have faith boys, Rickis a great coach and will turn it around. Go the Phoenix!
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Don't speak too soon brumbys.
We gotta enjoy it while we can
Plus i'm bringing a group of my soccer lads down next weekend, that might tip us into the 7k zone!!!
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I've yet to see anything this season to be inspired by. To get inspired for games, I flick on to youtube to look at last season. Its not just the results, its the performances. Its hard to watch. THey barely pass to eachother, they create nothing going forward and we are bringing defenders on in the 86th minute when we're 1-0 down!
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give it a rest mate. played five drawn two lost three. its hardly cause to give up hope. sure the performances havent been great. but barring one game you can hardly doubt the players effort and passion. results will come. you want inspiration, support chelsea. you want to support the Phoenix, stay loyal. you think you can do a better job then RH, go along to training and say so to his face.
'performances havent been great'. No, they've been dire. I didnt indicate my loyalty would waver at all, or that I think I can do a better job. I think someone else can do a better job based on what I've seen from RH this season, then again he was a messiah at the NZK.
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'performances havent been great'. No, they've been dire. I didnt indicate my loyalty would waver at all, or that I think I can do a better job. I think someone else can do a better job based on what I've seen from RH this season, then again he was a messiah at the NZK.
I understand your frustration, we are all feeling it, I just dont agree with how you express it. Its a long season I dont think its fair to write off the coach after 5 games. and i dont think the perfomances have been 'dire' either. we've been there or there abouts in terms of gettin at least a point in all but one of the games so far. RH has proved himself in other jurisdictions, NZK, allwhites, so give him a fair go. if we're still on the bottom in another 6 or 7 games ill be the first one championing his depature.
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Here's a thought: When will we get past being a "mainly kiwi" team. I mean seriously we need to get more aussies, asians, brazilians, americans in our team. The reason the warriors are kicking us is because their talent pool isn't limited to mostly kiwi's, they've got heaps of aussies in there, and some kiwis!
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Im proud of the fact our team is made up of kiwis...
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'performances havent been great'. No, they've been dire. I didnt indicate my loyalty would waver at all, or that I think I can do a better job. I think someone else can do a better job based on what I've seen from RH this season, then again he was a messiah at the NZK.
I understand your frustration, we are all feeling it, I just dont agree with how you express it. Its a long season I dont think its fair to write off the coach after 5 games. and i dont think the perfomances have been 'dire' either. we've been there or there abouts in terms of gettin at least a point in all but one of the games so far. RH has proved himself in other jurisdictions, NZK, allwhites, so give him a fair go. if we're still on the bottom in another 6 or 7 games ill be the first one championing his depature.
Sorry to be argumentative, but it really isn't a long season. I'd like an explanation as to why Siggy was bought on in the 86th min when we were 1-0 down. Apart from a niggle, I just can't get my head around it.
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Yeah struggling to stay positive and strong when Sydney are next week..
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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'performances havent been great'. No, they've been dire. I didnt indicate my loyalty would waver at all, or that I think I can do a better job. I think someone else can do a better job based on what I've seen from RH this season, then again he was a messiah at the NZK.
I understand your frustration, we are all feeling it, I just dont agree with how you express it. Its a long season I dont think its fair to write off the coach after 5 games. and i dont think the perfomances have been 'dire' either. we've been there or there abouts in terms of gettin at least a point in all but one of the games so far. RH has proved himself in other jurisdictions, NZK, allwhites, so give him a fair go. if we're still on the bottom in another 6 or 7 games ill be the first one championing his depature.
Sorry to be argumentative, but it really isn't a long season. I'd like an explanation as to why Siggy was bought on in the 86th min when we were 1-0 down. Apart from a niggle, I just can't get my head around it.
I know what you mean im struggling to comprehend the logic in that one aswell. I agree that Siggy should have been in the starting 11 in place of mulligan. But a few daft substitutions and poor results dont entail that we should sack the coach. Well not to me. Not yet.
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Im proud of the fact our team is made up of kiwis...
Really? Thats what the All Whites is for!!! Having guys like Smeltz and Bertos who would be snapped up at the other A-league clubs is great, but we need to get some of the aussie talent out here, some of the chinese and japense talent out here!
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I'll be even more positive Tony if I buy a Nix poncho this week and win the laptop at the game. My wife has given me strict instructions to buy the poncho and come home with her new laptop.
As for the team, I'll be there cheering of course, just tell the lads to start shooting from any position or distance, it might just work out!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
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Im proud of the fact our team is made up of kiwis...
Really? Thats what the All Whites is for!!! Having guys like Smeltz and Bertos who would be snapped up at the other A-league clubs is great, but we need to get some of the aussie talent out here, some of the chinese and japense talent out here!
We're a wellington team,having local kiwis playing for us is something im proud of. Im not saying make the entire team kiwis,i think we have a good balance right now.
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Rubbish,
We signed Australian talent, Hearfield, Kwasnik, McKain, Durante. We signed the kiwi's that other A-League sides wanted, bertos, Brown, Covs, etc. Signing Aus state league players when there are seven sides watching the Aus State leagues is unlikely to give us an advantage, the fact we can sign NZ players without using an import stuff is our one advantage.
Last year our two best players were locals, Moss and Smeltz (maybe even three with Lochhead), not many would have suggested Smeltz coming back from Halifax would be the player he was. There is no logical reason to have less kiwi's, Mulligan is patchy so far but most people are calling for his replacement to be another local player.
We signed Australian talent, Hearfield, Kwasnik, McKain, Durante. We signed the kiwi's that other A-League sides wanted, bertos, Brown, Covs, etc. Signing Aus state league players when there are seven sides watching the Aus State leagues is unlikely to give us an advantage, the fact we can sign NZ players without using an import stuff is our one advantage.
Last year our two best players were locals, Moss and Smeltz (maybe even three with Lochhead), not many would have suggested Smeltz coming back from Halifax would be the player he was. There is no logical reason to have less kiwi's, Mulligan is patchy so far but most people are calling for his replacement to be another local player.
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Though i guess being an arsenal fan,you dont really care or know what its like to have nd be proud of local talent in your team 
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'performances havent been great'. No, they've been dire. I didnt indicate my loyalty would waver at all, or that I think I can do a better job. I think someone else can do a better job based on what I've seen from RH this season, then again he was a messiah at the NZK.
I understand your frustration, we are all feeling it, I just dont agree with how you express it. Its a long season I dont think its fair to write off the coach after 5 games. and i dont think the perfomances have been 'dire' either. we've been there or there abouts in terms of gettin at least a point in all but one of the games so far. RH has proved himself in other jurisdictions, NZK, allwhites, so give him a fair go. if we're still on the bottom in another 6 or 7 games ill be the first one championing his depature.
Sorry to be argumentative, but it really isn't a long season. I'd like an explanation as to why Siggy was bought on in the 86th min when we were 1-0 down. Apart from a niggle, I just can't get my head around it.
I know what you mean im struggling to comprehend the logic in that one aswell. I agree that Siggy should have been in the starting 11 in place of mulligan. But a few daft substitutions and poor results dont entail that we should sack the coach. Well not to me. Not yet.
Yep. But the factors over which the coach DOES have control during the game have been marshalled poorly. two weeks running the use of substitutions has been ineffective, and reactive instead of proactive.
Ricki needs a better performance as well as the team. Give Ryan a call, as him what he'd do! Or just ask him how to cope with the pressure. I suppose being NZ's best paid sportsman probably helps Nelsen though.
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'performances havent been great'. No, they've been dire. I didnt indicate my loyalty would waver at all, or that I think I can do a better job. I think someone else can do a better job based on what I've seen from RH this season, then again he was a messiah at the NZK.
I understand your frustration, we are all feeling it, I just dont agree with how you express it. Its a long season I dont think its fair to write off the coach after 5 games. and i dont think the perfomances have been 'dire' either. we've been there or there abouts in terms of gettin at least a point in all but one of the games so far. RH has proved himself in other jurisdictions, NZK, allwhites, so give him a fair go. if we're still on the bottom in another 6 or 7 games ill be the first one championing his depature.
Sorry to be argumentative, but it really isn't a long season. I'd like an explanation as to why Siggy was bought on in the 86th min when we were 1-0 down. Apart from a niggle, I just can't get my head around it.
I know what you mean im struggling to comprehend the logic in that one aswell. I agree that Siggy should have been in the starting 11 in place of mulligan. But a few daft substitutions and poor results dont entail that we should sack the coach. Well not to me. Not yet.
Yep. But the factors over which the coach DOES have control during the game have been marshalled poorly. two weeks running the use of substitutions has been ineffective, and reactive instead of proactive.
Ricki needs a better performance as well as the team. Give Ryan a call, as him what he'd do! Or just ask him how to cope with the pressure. I suppose being NZ's best paid sportsman probably helps Nelsen though.
Good luck in calling Nelsen after the bashing he gave to Herbert during Olympics.
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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'performances havent been great'. No, they've been dire. I didnt indicate my loyalty would waver at all, or that I think I can do a better job. I think someone else can do a better job based on what I've seen from RH this season, then again he was a messiah at the NZK.
I understand your frustration, we are all feeling it, I just dont agree with how you express it. Its a long season I dont think its fair to write off the coach after 5 games. and i dont think the perfomances have been 'dire' either. we've been there or there abouts in terms of gettin at least a point in all but one of the games so far. RH has proved himself in other jurisdictions, NZK, allwhites, so give him a fair go. if we're still on the bottom in another 6 or 7 games ill be the first one championing his depature.
Sorry to be argumentative, but it really isn't a long season. I'd like an explanation as to why Siggy was bought on in the 86th min when we were 1-0 down. Apart from a niggle, I just can't get my head around it.
I know what you mean im struggling to comprehend the logic in that one aswell. I agree that Siggy should have been in the starting 11 in place of mulligan. But a few daft substitutions and poor results dont entail that we should sack the coach. Well not to me. Not yet.
Yep. But the factors over which the coach DOES have control during the game have been marshalled poorly. two weeks running the use of substitutions has been ineffective, and reactive instead of proactive.
Ricki needs a better performance as well as the team. Give Ryan a call, as him what he'd do! Or just ask him how to cope with the pressure. I suppose being NZ's best paid sportsman probably helps Nelsen though.
I completely agree with you. The fact that RH doesnt seem to be learning frm his mistakes is certainly a worrying sign. I was however simply making the point that as of now these are not grounds to sack him.
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Last year our two best players were locals, Moss and Smeltz (maybe even three with Lochhead), not many would have suggested Smeltz coming back from Halifax would be the player he was.�
Not maybe, I'd say definitely.
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'performances havent been great'. No, they've been dire. I didnt indicate my loyalty would waver at all, or that I think I can do a better job. I think someone else can do a better job based on what I've seen from RH this season, then again he was a messiah at the NZK.
I understand your frustration, we are all feeling it, I just dont agree with how you express it. Its a long season I dont think its fair to write off the coach after 5 games. and i dont think the perfomances have been 'dire' either. we've been there or there abouts in terms of gettin at least a point in all but one of the games so far. RH has proved himself in other jurisdictions, NZK, allwhites, so give him a fair go. if we're still on the bottom in another 6 or 7 games ill be the first one championing his depature.
Sorry to be argumentative, but it really isn't a long season. I'd like an explanation as to why Siggy was bought on in the 86th min when we were 1-0 down. Apart from a niggle, I just can't get my head around it.
I know what you mean im struggling to comprehend the logic in that one aswell. I agree that Siggy should have been in the starting 11 in place of mulligan. But a few daft substitutions and poor results dont entail that we should sack the coach. Well not to me. Not yet.
Yep. But the factors over which the coach DOES have control during the game have been marshalled poorly. two weeks running the use of substitutions has been ineffective, and reactive instead of proactive.
Ricki needs a better performance as well as the team. Give Ryan a call, as him what he'd do! Or just ask him how to cope with the pressure. I suppose being NZ's best paid sportsman probably helps Nelsen though.
I completely agree with you. The fact that RH doesnt seem to be learning frm his mistakes is certainly a worrying sign. I was however simply making the point that as of now these are not grounds to sack him.
I don't want him to be sacked. I want him to start winning games again. And I want to see some PASSION in the 'Nix. No-one minds when you see a united team hunting goals and tackles for 90 minutes, but can't get the results.
Phoenix til I die!
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Let's do what the Warriors did in the late 90's: bring in the Tapu witchdoctors...
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I know I am I'm sure I am I'm Phoenix til i die!
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I just wanna see us score again (preferably first)...
As Jim Jones' said on that fateful day, "I'm tired of it all."
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Haha you're watching that too then are you...
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