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Stay strong,stay positive

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ballane wrote:
Dougie Rydal wrote:
If this doesn't sort itself out soon, there will no incentive for Smeltz to stay, plenty of other title challenging teams would like him on their books...

He says he likes the Wellington lifestyle but he has family in Aussie and the thought of another misfiring season might be enough to make him leave
The thought of that happening is 
 
 relationship angst
 
 
*Hard News tagline*


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You have to laugh at the people questioning loyalty and people's support. People dont say Sack Ricki because they want a laugh, thinks its good fun or want Mark Elrick as coach. They say it because they care. They want the team to perform to the best of their ability, and if they dont see Ricki as part of that it doesnt make them anymore disloyal that your average Joe Bloggs supporting the Nix.

For me, those performances are undefendable. Most dont seem to try, others couldnt pass to a player in the same colours as them and others want a joke round with their mates from Perth after the game.
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Tony P wrote:

To all YF, this is the time we all stick together as one group. Yes it is disappointing and frustrating but this is sport you have winners and you have losers. It hurts to lose I can tell you it is very painful. We are all hurting here in Perth and I know you are as well.

 

Ricki Herbert is the coach and will turn things around.  He has the 100% backing of Terry and myself.

 

Sport is a cruel game and if you follow it long enough you will always end up hurting more than feeling the elation of winning but it is that elation that we all wait for and that�s what keeps us going. As a club we are remaining positive, yes we have not won a game but we are now focusing on Sydney. A win and things will change. We have the squad as we saw is the pre-season cup we just need the confidence to return which it will. 

 

So the negativity stops now and we start the positive vibes for Sydney and 3 points. Come next Sunday we will have forgotten about the past and focus on the future.

 

I am proud to be associated with Wellington Phoenix FC and have watched this club evolve from nothing to where we are today.  It is now for all of us to stay strong and remain positive.

 

C'mon the Nix



You're having a laugh - this smacks of amateur dramatics at their finest.

The team needs to step up - end of story. Moss and Durante seem to be the only ones who give a sh*t about playing for the 'Nix.

Get a Mulligan on a f**king plane back to Port Vale.
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Jag wrote:
sh*t, Dai. Half a dozen good years. You're lucky!
 
Tend to agree, support a club like Swansea, Hull (sorry Tigers) or the mighty Partick Thistle and you'll begin to appreciate what disappointment is all about and appreciate the good times when you get them.
 
As for the Nix being as embarrasing as the Knights? Don't think so!
 
what's a hundred and four years to a true fan?
 
 
 
 
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Garry wrote:
 
With the amount of money in Aussie chasing A-League franchises they will take our license without a second thought.
 
36 games 5 wins (3 against Perth) we now must wake up to the fact that this is at least as embarassing as the Knights/Kings fiasco we all derided.
 
Take our license away for having a bad run?! Each season someone is going to have a bad run - are you suggesting they will lose their license each time?
 
And....
5 games without a win is the same or worse as 5 wins in 36 games? That does not add up at all. Teams get a bad run in all leagues over the world all the time. It happens. It's not fun. But get over it.
 
I get the feeling that I'm surrounded by people used to cheering on Man Utd. Normal teams have rough patches. It's called football. Take away the big super-corporation clubs and it's a regular reality. Stick in and wait for the good stuff. Welcome to lower league football.
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Daikiwi wrote:
Geez, it always amuses me to listen to Kiwis whinge on when things get tough. It's the old All Black syndrome - where they win easily most of the time, and expect to win every game. When they get beaten, Kiwis go crying to Mum that's it's not fair, boo hoo hoo. Get over it. Kiwis have absolutely no pain threshold when it comes to sport, unlike just about everywhere else in the world, where you gain a sense of perspective through experiencing the ups and downs of the real game. It's character building and allows you to appreciate the good times even more.
Try supporting Swansea. We've had maybe half a dozen good years in the fifty odd I've been supporting them. And there is never any question about supporting them. You turn up and support, because it is in your blood, it is your tribe. It's a given. Harden up, or go and support the rugby.
 
 Too fkn right. I echo the whole thing from the Brighton camp.
 
PS Yes - the same Brighton that spent 75-odd minutes playing against 9 men. We lost 1-0. I listened to the game on delayed audio. It finished a couple of hours before the Nix kicked off against Perth. I didn't have a great football weekend.
SiNZ2008-09-22 21:20:09
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Hey Hey, Calm down calm down!

 

Come on team, Lets all take a breath. We were all a bit fired up about yesterdays result especially but lets take a step back and look at the bigger picture.

Summers coming and where would you rather be than at the Cake Tiin shouting for the boys. Just remember that not too long ago we didn�t have our beloved Nix but now we do. Results arn't always going to go our way and at times we are going to have bad patches. Keep the faith! We will come good. There�s a lot of pressure on the lads and it doesn�t help if we get stuck in.

I am privileged enough to also be an Everton fan so im used to the ups and downs ( mostly downs to be fair) but seriously team....Its all just a bit of fun for us so lets just roll with it and have the best time we can.

 

Come on You Nix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 


 
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SiNZ wrote:
Garry wrote:
 
With the amount of money in Aussie chasing A-League franchises they will take our license without a second thought.
 
36 games 5 wins (3 against Perth) we now must wake up to the fact that this is at least as embarassing as the Knights/Kings fiasco we all derided.
 
Take our license away for having a bad run?! Each season someone is going to have a bad run - are you suggesting they will lose their license each time?
 
And....
5 games without a win is the same or worse as 5 wins in 36 games? That does not add up at all. Teams get a bad run in all leagues over the world all the time. It happens. It's not fun. But get over it.
 
I get the feeling that I'm surrounded by people used to cheering on Man Utd. Normal teams have rough patches. It's called football. Take away the big super-corporation clubs and it's a regular reality. Stick in and wait for the good stuff. Welcome to lower league football.
 
Yeah I admit to supporting Man United, have since I could walk so I am lucky enough to have supported a winning team who play wonderful football. But this is different for me. The Phoenix are a home-grown team I get to watch at the stadium every other week, and I will support whoevers playing and whoevers coaching. That first win is going to taste very sweet!
 
But I am really worried about the liscense thing. I confess to having absolutely no knowledge on how solid it is, but with the history of NZ football teams in Oz comps... Makes me wonder. Wellington is different (and much better) from the Auckland teams but is it different enough...? 
 
As long as they're playing in Wellington I'll go and watch them though, and hopefully thats for a very, very long time yet.
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Well think about it this way, has Perth's license ever been in danger of been taken? Ofcourse they are an Australian team which apparently is an advantage but still.

I think the whole season won't be as bad as this. I've calmed down a bit now after being very pissed off before and I think we just gotta hope that lessons are learnt. All I want to see is that the same mistakes don't get made match after bloody match.
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The thing that really worries me is crowd numbers at the ROF.
 
Last years last game at the ROF drew in close to 14,000.....despite a good PSC the crowds have been poor right from game one this season. Don't laugh at Perths 4000, wait and see what happens next Sunday at the Sydney game.
 
If I remember correctly Tony P said last year that break even point was about 8000 at each home game.....well folks the club is LOSING money every week. Falling income means less money for quality players means a continual spiral downwards. We have all seen this cycle in UK football.
 
Terry is rich but he is not stupid....he won't keep backing a financial dog.So get down to every game , get your friends and family there as well. If we don't support the Phoenix in good numbers there won't be a pro team to support.
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Memo to the team: To quote Bil Hicks - "PLAY FROM YOUR f**kING HEART!!!"
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Too many players look like hey're just going through the motions at the moment. Leaving the coaching arguments to one side, I think that's what's pissing most of the fans off. Losing after giving it 100% hurts, but losing to a better side is no disgrace. Waltzing off after spending 90 minutes looking like you don't give a sh*t and losing to teams like Perth is hard to stomach. It's all good for Tony P to come on here and post that the fans should all pull together and stay behind the team, maybe he should be taking the players to one side and putting a rocket up  their arses instead.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I agree with Big Dunc, lets not get to carried away, when things aren't going well that's exactly the time when we're needed most, we need to get out there and cheer for the Nix, if we don't how can we expect anyone else to?


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Daikiwi wrote:
Geez, it always amuses me to listen to Kiwis whinge on when things get tough. It's the old All Black syndrome - where they win easily most of the time, and expect to win every game. When they get beaten, Kiwis go crying to Mum that's it's not fair, boo hoo hoo. Get over it. Kiwis have absolutely no pain threshold when it comes to sport, unlike just about everywhere else in the world, where you gain a sense of perspective through experiencing the ups and downs of the real game. It's character building and allows you to appreciate the good times even more.
Try supporting Swansea. We've had maybe half a dozen good years in the fifty odd I've been supporting them. And there is never any question about supporting them. You turn up and support, because it is in your blood, it is your tribe. It's a given. Harden up, or go and support the rugby.
 
Agree. Makes me laugh. I think there are a few to many All Black/Man Utd/Chelsea supporters on this forum.
 
Take a deep breath, this is why its called the beautifal game. What is possibly more beautifal than going to watch a team that is losing, playing cr*p and still supporting them, the coach and the entire the club. I think iwhen you find yourself talking more about the positives than you do about the negatives then you can proudly call yourself a supporter. Sure you can still call yourself a supporter if you focus on the negaitive but proudly?
 
I don't buy into those comments either that 'its because i care' i rubbish my team. Again, sure you can rubbish your team if you want but If your not part of the solution your part of the problem. And rubbishing them is not a solution.
 
2-1 Nix this weekend
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zinidane wrote:
The thing that really worries me is crowd numbers at the ROF.
 
Last years last game at the ROF drew in close to 14,000.....despite a good PSC the crowds have been poor right from game one this season. Don't laugh at Perths 4000, wait and see what happens next Sunday at the Sydney game.
 
If I remember correctly Tony P said last year that break even point was about 8000 at each home game.....well folks the club is LOSING money every week. Falling income means less money for quality players means a continual spiral downwards. We have all seen this cycle in UK football.
 
Terry is rich but he is not stupid....he won't keep backing a financial dog.So get down to every game , get your friends and family there as well. If we don't support the Phoenix in good numbers there won't be a pro team to support.
 
 
As said before on here, you're preaching to the faithfull who go anyway. It's Joe Average that you need to go out and talk to. He's getting a buzz from a winning Lions team with a certain shield. Not much we can do on here. Encourage others and hope the team start winning.
The Warriors were just as crap at the start of the year and had a dream run in the second half. Look at them now! A few wins may just be the tonic.
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nzcopley wrote:
Daikiwi wrote:
Geez, it always amuses me to listen to Kiwis whinge on when things get tough. It's the old All Black syndrome - where they win easily most of the time, and expect to win every game. When they get beaten, Kiwis go crying to Mum that's it's not fair, boo hoo hoo. Get over it. Kiwis have absolutely no pain threshold when it comes to sport, unlike just about everywhere else in the world, where you gain a sense of perspective through experiencing the ups and downs of the real game. It's character building and allows you to appreciate the good times even more.
Try supporting Swansea. We've had maybe half a dozen good years in the fifty odd I've been supporting them. And there is never any question about supporting them. You turn up and support, because it is in your blood, it is your tribe. It's a given. Harden up, or go and support the rugby.

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Agree. Makes me laugh. I think there are a few to many All Black/Man Utd/Chelsea�supporters on this forum.

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Take a deep breath, this is why its called the�beautifal game. What is possibly more beautifal than going to watch a team that is losing, playing cr*p and still supporting them, the coach and the entire the club. I think iwhen you find yourself talking more about the positives than you do about the negatives then you can proudly call yourself a supporter. Sure you can�still call yourself a supporter if you focus on the negaitive but proudly?

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I don't buy into those comments either that 'its because i care' i�rubbish my team. Again, sure you can rubbish your team if you want but If your not part of the solution your part of the problem. And rubbishing them is not a solution.

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2-1 Nix this weekend


What an absolute load of bollocks.

If you and some of the other so called 'real' supporters had bothered to read what a lot of people are saying you'd realise the problem isn't in the fact we're bottom of the league or that we haven't won a game yet, but it's the performances on the field which are absolute dog's-bollocks, and it's hard to see how they can improve given what we have at our disposal. So we can't say that the players seem to be lacking heart (and some of them skill, too), that the coach is making mind-boggling selections and in-game decisions, and that we lost on the weekend to an absolute disaster of a team? We can't say that? What can we say? Yeah, fark, yeah, we'll smash Sydney next week, eh, bro? FFS.

I really hope that we can turn things around because I love this club and I want it to stay here for a long time, but performances like this are eroding away the hard earned credibility we earned last season, and that's not good for the club and football in this country. We as club and football supporters in this country have the right to express our opinions and concerns, even if they do seem negative. But we didn't bring this negativity about ourselves, the team's performances on the field have made us think about the way things are.
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It is a chicken and egg situation, the stadium says this is not our main revenue stream so we put all the games on the most awkward time (Sunday nights) to suit Aus TV. The hard core fans will (mostly) turn up but the occaisonal fans, families and football as Friday night / Saturday pre-beer leisure activity fans will not. Thats why there were 14k last season and 6k this season the number of hard core fans hasn't really changed.
If you make it as difficult as possible for the uncommitted they will not go, this is not rocket science! personnally I have a job so going out on a Sunday is something I do in spite of the obstacles not as a chosen liesure activity!
We ara peeple!!!
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el grapadura wrote:
nzcopley wrote:
Daikiwi wrote:
Geez, it always amuses me to listen to Kiwis whinge on when things get tough. It's the old All Black syndrome - where they win easily most of the time, and expect to win every game. When they get beaten, Kiwis go crying to Mum that's it's not fair, boo hoo hoo. Get over it. Kiwis have absolutely no pain threshold when it comes to sport, unlike just about everywhere else in the world, where you gain a sense of perspective through experiencing the ups and downs of the real game. It's character building and allows you to appreciate the good times even more.
Try supporting Swansea. We've had maybe half a dozen good years in the fifty odd I've been supporting them. And there is never any question about supporting them. You turn up and support, because it is in your blood, it is your tribe. It's a given. Harden up, or go and support the rugby.

 

Agree. Makes me laugh. I think there are a few to many All Black/Man Utd/Chelsea supporters on this forum.

 

Take a deep breath, this is why its called the beautifal game. What is possibly more beautifal than going to watch a team that is losing, playing cr*p and still supporting them, the coach and the entire the club. I think iwhen you find yourself talking more about the positives than you do about the negatives then you can proudly call yourself a supporter. Sure you can still call yourself a supporter if you focus on the negaitive but proudly?

 

I don't buy into those comments either that 'its because i care' i rubbish my team. Again, sure you can rubbish your team if you want but If your not part of the solution your part of the problem. And rubbishing them is not a solution.

 

2-1 Nix this weekend


What an absolute load of bollocks.

If you and some of the other so called 'real' supporters had bothered to read what a lot of people are saying you'd realise the problem isn't in the fact we're bottom of the league or that we haven't won a game yet, but it's the performances on the field which are absolute dog's-bollocks, and it's hard to see how they can improve given what we have at our disposal. So we can't say that the players seem to be lacking heart (and some of them skill, too), that the coach is making mind-boggling selections and in-game decisions, and that we lost on the weekend to an absolute disaster of a team? We can't say that? What can we say? Yeah, fark, yeah, we'll smash Sydney next week, eh, bro? FFS.

I really hope that we can turn things around because I love this club and I want it to stay here for a long time, but performances like this are eroding away the hard earned credibility we earned last season, and that's not good for the club and football in this country. We as club and football supporters in this country have the right to express our opinions and concerns, even if they do seem negative. But we didn't bring this negativity about ourselves, the team's performances on the field have made us think about the way things are.
 
Wooo hold the horses EG
 
I think you are one of those that needs to talke that breath ni mentioned and read the post again.
 
Firstly at no point did i say i was a real supporter and that you or others were not. Also i did not suggest that i thought everyone else was worried that we are bottom and skip over the performances. In fact i didn't mention anything about why people may or may not be happy to date.
 
In line with the forum heading (Stay strong, stay positive) i have a merely tried to give a different perspective on things. That being that despite how anyone may be feeling for what ever reason that thats just the beautifal game at work.
 
I did not and would never tell/suggest to anyone that they can not post or verbalise their feelings or thoughts (however negative and counterproductive i personally think they are) and have not done so in my post - In fact i have i mentioned that you can rubbish your team if you want.
 
Persoanlly from experience positivity has mofre success of breading positivity.
 
So, mate, i think it is you that pulls ones head in and read the posts. Alternatlvely stick to watching the AB's
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Absolutley 
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Hard News wrote:
Less angst please.
 
Jeez, I hope so. I don't want be heading into the BB to find the Troops hanging themselves with their Retro Rickis or weeping into their beer.
 
C'mon guys, gimme something to look forward to on my next trip down there.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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nzcopley wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
nzcopley wrote:
Daikiwi wrote:
Geez, it always amuses me to listen to Kiwis whinge on when things get tough. It's the old All Black syndrome - where they win easily most of the time, and expect to win every game. When they get beaten, Kiwis go crying to Mum that's it's not fair, boo hoo hoo. Get over it. Kiwis have absolutely no pain threshold when it comes to sport, unlike just about everywhere else in the world, where you gain a sense of perspective through experiencing the ups and downs of the real game. It's character building and allows you to appreciate the good times even more.
Try supporting Swansea. We've had maybe half a dozen good years in the fifty odd I've been supporting them. And there is never any question about supporting them. You turn up and support, because it is in your blood, it is your tribe. It's a given. Harden up, or go and support the rugby.

�

Agree. Makes me laugh. I think there are a few to many All Black/Man Utd/Chelsea�supporters on this forum.

�

Take a deep breath, this is why its called the�beautifal game. What is possibly more beautifal than going to watch a team that is losing, playing cr*p and still supporting them, the coach and the entire the club. I think iwhen you find yourself talking more about the positives than you do about the negatives then you can proudly call yourself a supporter. Sure you can�still call yourself a supporter if you focus on the negaitive but proudly?

�

I don't buy into those comments either that 'its because i care' i�rubbish my team. Again, sure you can rubbish your team if you want but If your not part of the solution your part of the problem. And rubbishing them is not a solution.

�

2-1 Nix this weekend
What an absolute load of bollocks. If you and some of the other so called 'real' supporters had bothered to read what a lot of people are saying you'd realise the problem isn't in the fact we're bottom of the league or that we haven't won a game yet, but it's the performances on the field which are absolute dog's-bollocks, and it's hard to see how they can improve given what we have at our disposal. So we can't say that the players seem to be lacking heart (and some of them skill, too), that the coach is making mind-boggling selections and in-game decisions, and that we lost on the weekend to an absolute disaster of a team? We can't say that? What can we say? Yeah, fark, yeah, we'll smash Sydney next week, eh, bro? FFS. I really hope that we can turn things around because I love this club and I want it to stay here for a long time, but performances like this are eroding away the hard earned credibility we earned last season, and that's not good for the club and football in this country. We as club and football supporters in this country have the right to express our opinions and concerns, even if they do seem negative. But we didn't bring this negativity about ourselves, the team's performances on the field have made us think about the way things are.

�

Wooo hold the horses EG

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I think�you are one of those that needs to talke that breath ni mentioned and�read the post again.

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Firstly at no point did i say i was a real supporter and that you or others were not. Also i did not suggest that i thought everyone else was worried that we are bottom and skip over the performances. In fact i didn't mention anything about why people may or may not be happy to date.

�

In line with the forum heading (Stay strong, stay positive) i have a merely tried to give a different perspective on things. That being that despite how anyone may be feeling for what ever reason�that thats just the beautifal game at work.

�

I did not and would never tell/suggest�to�anyone that they can not post or verbalise their feelings or thoughts (however negative and counterproductive i personally think they are) and have not done so in my post - In fact i have i mentioned that you can rubbish your team if you want.

�

Persoanlly from experience positivity has mofre success of breading positivity.

�

So, mate, i think it is you that pulls ones head in and read the posts. Alternatlvely stick to watching the AB's


And what positives, exactly, are you focusing on? Other than sl*gging off supporters who are voicing their concerns? Anything constructive other than go back to watching ABs? And that to someone for whom the mere mention of rugby brings up bit of vomit in the mouth...focus on whatever you want to, just don't try to 'explain' football to me, I know perfectly well how it works.

This is my last word on this, so don't worry News.
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Wolfben wrote:
You have to laugh at the people questioning loyalty and people's support. People dont say Sack Ricki because they want a laugh, thinks its good fun or want Mark Elrick as coach. They say it because they care. They want the team to perform to the best of their ability, and if they dont see Ricki as part of that it doesnt make them anymore disloyal that your average Joe Bloggs supporting the Nix.

For me, those performances are undefendable. Most dont seem to try, others couldnt pass to a player in the same colours as them and others want a joke round with their mates from Perth after the game.
 
Totally agree with what you've been saying all along.
Nothing to do with loyalty.
We speak the truth for the sake of the Nix, not for any individual.
1 nil down, 5 to go and Ricki subs a back for a back, o.m.g. wake up people!!!!!
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All is well! Positivity is restored. I've just had a text from Bill. He was a bit dispirited after Sunday's game but he says ...
 
"I love football again".
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 
20/5/20

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el grapadura wrote:
nzcopley wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
nzcopley wrote:
Daikiwi wrote:
Geez, it always amuses me to listen to Kiwis whinge on when things get tough. It's the old All Black syndrome - where they win easily most of the time, and expect to win every game. When they get beaten, Kiwis go crying to Mum that's it's not fair, boo hoo hoo. Get over it. Kiwis have absolutely no pain threshold when it comes to sport, unlike just about everywhere else in the world, where you gain a sense of perspective through experiencing the ups and downs of the real game. It's character building and allows you to appreciate the good times even more.
Try supporting Swansea. We've had maybe half a dozen good years in the fifty odd I've been supporting them. And there is never any question about supporting them. You turn up and support, because it is in your blood, it is your tribe. It's a given. Harden up, or go and support the rugby.

 

Agree. Makes me laugh. I think there are a few to many All Black/Man Utd/Chelsea supporters on this forum.

 

Take a deep breath, this is why its called the beautifal game. What is possibly more beautifal than going to watch a team that is losing, playing cr*p and still supporting them, the coach and the entire the club. I think iwhen you find yourself talking more about the positives than you do about the negatives then you can proudly call yourself a supporter. Sure you can still call yourself a supporter if you focus on the negaitive but proudly?

 

I don't buy into those comments either that 'its because i care' i rubbish my team. Again, sure you can rubbish your team if you want but If your not part of the solution your part of the problem. And rubbishing them is not a solution.

 

2-1 Nix this weekend
What an absolute load of bollocks. If you and some of the other so called 'real' supporters had bothered to read what a lot of people are saying you'd realise the problem isn't in the fact we're bottom of the league or that we haven't won a game yet, but it's the performances on the field which are absolute dog's-bollocks, and it's hard to see how they can improve given what we have at our disposal. So we can't say that the players seem to be lacking heart (and some of them skill, too), that the coach is making mind-boggling selections and in-game decisions, and that we lost on the weekend to an absolute disaster of a team? We can't say that? What can we say? Yeah, fark, yeah, we'll smash Sydney next week, eh, bro? FFS. I really hope that we can turn things around because I love this club and I want it to stay here for a long time, but performances like this are eroding away the hard earned credibility we earned last season, and that's not good for the club and football in this country. We as club and football supporters in this country have the right to express our opinions and concerns, even if they do seem negative. But we didn't bring this negativity about ourselves, the team's performances on the field have made us think about the way things are.

 

Wooo hold the horses EG

 

I think you are one of those that needs to talke that breath ni mentioned and read the post again.

 

Firstly at no point did i say i was a real supporter and that you or others were not. Also i did not suggest that i thought everyone else was worried that we are bottom and skip over the performances. In fact i didn't mention anything about why people may or may not be happy to date.

 

In line with the forum heading (Stay strong, stay positive) i have a merely tried to give a different perspective on things. That being that despite how anyone may be feeling for what ever reason that thats just the beautifal game at work.

 

I did not and would never tell/suggest to anyone that they can not post or verbalise their feelings or thoughts (however negative and counterproductive i personally think they are) and have not done so in my post - In fact i have i mentioned that you can rubbish your team if you want.

 

Persoanlly from experience positivity has mofre success of breading positivity.

 

So, mate, i think it is you that pulls ones head in and read the posts. Alternatlvely stick to watching the AB's


And what positives, exactly, are you focusing on? Other than sl*gging off supporters who are voicing their concerns? Anything constructive other than go back to watching ABs? And that to someone for whom the mere mention of rugby brings up bit of vomit in the mouth...focus on whatever you want to, just don't try to 'explain' football to me, I know perfectly well how it works.

This is my last word on this, so don't worry News.
 
"Thats my last word on this" is the most productive thing you have said in this topic. Good work, keep it up. And read the post again please
 
No more from me either HN. If someone as knowledgable of football as EG appears to be doesn't get the post then we are all scre*ed
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auskiwi wrote:
Wolfben wrote:
You have to laugh at the people questioning loyalty and people's support. People dont say Sack Ricki because they want a laugh, thinks its good fun or want Mark Elrick as coach. They say it because they care. They want the team to perform to the best of their ability, and if they dont see Ricki as part of that it doesnt make them anymore disloyal that your average Joe Bloggs supporting the Nix.

For me, those performances are undefendable. Most dont seem to try, others couldnt pass to a player in the same colours as them and others want a joke round with their mates from Perth after the game.
 
Totally agree with what you've been saying all along.
Nothing to do with loyalty.
We speak the truth for the sake of the Nix, not for any individual.
1 nil down, 5 to go and Ricki subs a back for a back, o.m.g. wake up people!!!!!
 
Lol you realise that with only being able to name 4 subs,that siggy was the only sub  available

Allegedly

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Tegal wrote:
auskiwi wrote:
Wolfben wrote:
You have to laugh at the people questioning loyalty and people's support. People dont say Sack Ricki because they want a laugh, thinks its good fun or want Mark Elrick as coach. They say it because they care. They want the team to perform to the best of their ability, and if they dont see Ricki as part of that it doesnt make them anymore disloyal that your average Joe Bloggs supporting the Nix. For me, those performances are undefendable. Most dont seem to try, others couldnt pass to a player in the same colours as them and others want a joke round with their mates from Perth after the game.


Totally agree with what you've been saying all along.

Nothing to do with loyalty.

We speak the truth for the sake of the Nix, not for any individual.

1 nil down, 5 to go and Ricki subs a back for a back, o.m.g. wake up people!!!!!


Lol you realise that with only being able to name 4 subs,that siggy was the only sub available


Agreed, In your opinion should Ricky of played Paston at the back then? Sigmund was the only sub that we could use!!
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Hard News wrote:
Less angst please.
Farken hell HN, the YF Forums are my outlet for the angst that builds up inside. If I can't let it all out here I may well implode.
 
A lot of people are posting about their experience supporting a team like Swansea, Patrick Thistle or Everton has taught them to ride out the harsh patches and then make the most of the euphoria that comes with success and how we need to do just this.
But the reality is that no one would ever consider bumbing off the likes Luton, Wrexham or Colchester just because they have a bad season (They are the wooden spooners of last season's English Leagues 1, 2 and the Championship), but The Story of the Knights (and potentially the Phoenix) is completely different. They are young, historyless and aren't really of benefit to the FFA if they're losing and not appealing to the public. That's why it's important to get this season turned right around and fast. It's not only this season that the results and the support depend on, it's the potential future of our aleague license.
 
Now I love having a local pro team and I am not going to take it for granted, so I turn up at the RoF for every game and to everything I can to get behind the team, which involves trying to convince people week in week out to come along and do what they can to keep the Nix going.
I'm pretty sure nearly every poster on here does the same, but there is always a little bit more we can do. However, as Rossy Aloisi said it's up to the team to put their own boot up their arse and start performing how they should. A bit of serious thought on Ricki's behalf could do us a world of good as well, but I'm still right behind him.
 
Sorry this post has bounced around a lot, but I think I've gotten everything off my chest.
You know we belong together...

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Im more than happy to stay stron and positive if still more than a little bit frustrated but i think it works both ways. 1) On the field the players need some heart or at least to show some heart 2) the club off the field needs to get more proactive, the clubs presence has all but disappeared in the city and they need to get it back.Try some intiatives to get crowds along and things of that nature.
Im keen to support the Nix till the day i die but only if the Nix as an entire organisation look like they value our support

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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Oska wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Less angst please.
Farken hell HN, the YF Forums are my outlet for the angst that builds up inside. If I can't let it all out here I may well implode.
 
A lot of people are posting about their experience supporting a team like Swansea, Patrick Thistle or Everton has taught them to ride out the harsh patches and then make the most of the euphoria that comes with success and how we need to do just this.
But the reality is that no one would ever consider bumbing off the likes Luton, Wrexham or Colchester just because they have a bad season (They are the wooden spooners of last season's English Leagues 1, 2 and the Championship), but The Story of the Knights (and potentially the Phoenix) is completely different. They are young, historyless and aren't really of benefit to the FFA if they're losing and not appealing to the public. That's why it's important to get this season turned right around and fast. It's not only this season that the results and the support depend on, it's the potential future of our aleague license.
 
Now I love having a local pro team and I am not going to take it for granted, so I turn up at the RoF for every game and to everything I can to get behind the team, which involves trying to convince people week in week out to come along and do what they can to keep the Nix going.
I'm pretty sure nearly every poster on here does the same, but there is always a little bit more we can do. However, as Rossy Aloisi said it's up to the team to put their own boot up their arse and start performing how they should. A bit of serious thought on Ricki's behalf could do us a world of good as well, but I'm still right behind him.
 
Sorry this post has bounced around a lot, but I think I've gotten everything off my chest.
 
You farken leave Collie out of this!
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Why do people keep bringing up the A-League license?
 
Did the Knightz lose their license because they had two seasons of shockingly bad results? No. They lost it because they were financially crippled and, I think, had reached a point where player wages were at risk.
 
The A-League do not take your license away for losing a few games. To stay in the league, the Nix have to stay healthy financially. Normally it takes several seasons of failure to challenge that viability. I don't believe that the Nix have been set-up so fragile that we need worry about our A-League license just yet. Stop being so hysterical.
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At work yesterday I passed a guy who said" welcome to shield country". I replied "Im more worried about the Phoenix at the moment", he replied "oh ive given up on them".I replied. "you cant enjoy the good times if you dont endure the bad".I'll be there Sunday with my mates
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tonyg wrote:
At work yesterday I passed a guy who said" welcome to shield country". I replied "Im more worried about the Phoenix at the moment", he replied "oh ive given up on them".I replied. "you cant enjoy the good times if you dont endure the bad".I'll be there Sunday with my mates
 
Exactly the kind of support we need for the club if we want to succeed. If we have more loyal fans like you its a great sign for the club.
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spam wrote:
I think the team needs an 80's style training / bonding montage ..

it always seems to be the turning point in the movies.. shortly after the inspirational speech which we've just had, and the rock bottom moment (losing to Perth? - I think that's warranted)

Any ideas for songs for the montage scene? HAS to be 80's.
 
 
 
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football_mum wrote:
spam wrote:
I think the team needs an 80's style training / bonding montage .. it always seems to be the turning point in the movies.. shortly after the inspirational speech which we've just had, and the rock bottom moment (losing to Perth? - I think that's warranted)Any ideas for songs for the montage scene? HAS to be 80's.

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Thanks Mum!!

Susan Hoffman was my favourite Bananarama girl.

If they can't training to this with their Retro Ricki shirts on, then they stop believing in getting their football mojo back again.

BTW Mum, congrats on your 1,000th post.AllWhitebelievr2008-09-24 00:42:15
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spam wrote:
I think the team needs an 80's style training / bonding montage .. it always seems to be the turning point in the movies.. shortly after the inspirational speech which we've just had, and the rock bottom moment (losing to Perth? - I think that's warranted)Any ideas for songs for the montage scene? HAS to be 80's.

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Eye of the Tiger
Theme from Rocky
One Visionwolfman2008-09-24 00:31:54


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Terry's clearly had enough and is "on to it".
 
 
The thing that struck a cord with me in Terry's comments was his reaffirmation of his long term commitment to the Phoenix and the reason for his commitment - his passion for Wellington.
 
I think we have major issues to deal with in the Phoenix setup and I have every confidence that Terry, a very experienced and competent businessman, will do so.
 
This city is so much richer for having the Phoenix and we are all fortunate to be able to watch a professional football - albeit a painful experience at the moment.
 
I will be down at the RoF on Sunday to hoepfully support the lads in the first steps towards recovery.
 
Must confess though I will also be at the Stadium Saturday night - I need a win fix.
 
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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According to Dompost , Terry S is having a meeting with the players  (ie. minus coaching staff) today to try and find out whether there are things behind the scenes that are producing the poor performances. He also mentioned he had a guest player and one other player in mind if required.
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And we're into the player conjecture again too... 

E + R + O

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Yeeeees. Another 400 page "Who are we signing" thread coming up. Yeehah!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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