http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news-display/victory-and-wanderers-charged/82204
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
3 points. Ballsy. I expect a flurry of fury from those fans. Should be entertaining.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
The suspended punishment puts the onus right back on the fans and supporters groups to cut out the "anti-social behaiour" during the rest of the season. Masterstroke from Gallop.
Also they play each other again on the 14th January in Melbourne!
This is gonna get messy!
yays!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
watched the WSW v Nix game 3 times now - did I miss the flares or were the RBB good this week.
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No flares.
Boxy much disappoint.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
No flares.
Boxy much disappoint.
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
For those who are yet to see it...
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
The suspended punishment puts the onus right back on the fans and supporters groups to cut out the "anti-social behaiour" during the rest of the season. Masterstroke from Gallop.
Grumpy old bastard alert
I do like that the FFA condemned the ridiculous "it was them" statements that were released by both clubs after the incidents.
Is that Marley on your avatar Tegal and why is it on its side?
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
It shows up fine sometimes for me and sideways other times. No idea why.
Its a security guard doing a 'shhh' gesture in the feverzone.
It shows up fine sometimes for me and sideways other times. No idea why.
Its a security guard doing a 'shhh' gesture in the feverzone.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
funny, the WSW have co-ordinated chanting even when they are brawling.
Queenslander 3x a year.
Gallop has the experience of fighting fires when he was involved with league, this seems like a good response.
The suspended punishment puts the onus right back on the fans and supporters groups to cut out the "anti-social behaiour" during the rest of the season. Masterstroke from Gallop.
Agree with Smithy that we are about to get more lols from their complaints.
Their forum has gone nuclear mushroom cloud. It's the FFA/Victorian police/rival fans/ground security/someone else's fault but certainly not theirs.
Grumpy old bastard alert
The suspended punishment puts the onus right back on the fans and supporters groups to cut out the "anti-social behaiour" during the rest of the season. Masterstroke from Gallop.
Agree with Smithy that we are about to get more lols from their complaints.
Grumpy old bastard alert
The suspended punishment puts the onus right back on the fans and supporters groups to cut out the "anti-social behaiour" during the rest of the season. Masterstroke from Gallop.
Agree with Smithy that we are about to get more lols from their complaints.
The suspended punishment puts the onus right back on the fans and supporters groups to cut out the "anti-social behaiour" during the rest of the season. Masterstroke from Gallop.
Agree with Smithy that we are about to get more lols from their complaints.
A cynic would say this is FFA's way of appearing to be doing something about this while not really doing anything at all.
No cynicism required. that's exactly what they have done. mainly to placate both sets of fans. Next up, bucket full of water and dry bus ticket. If it were Nix fans we'd have been docked 10 points. I'm glad that our lot, especially the aussie based ones are more mature about things and don't drop to this level. Sure we still have a few idiots but they just get drunk and annoy, no fights etc from what I have seen.
The suspended punishment puts the onus right back on the fans and supporters groups to cut out the "anti-social behaiour" during the rest of the season. Masterstroke from Gallop.
Agree with Smithy that we are about to get more lols from their complaints.
If Gallop really wanted to hurt them, he'd have fined them and taken points straight away, with an additional bond for good behaviour. This way they seem to be taking stern action while they're not really, and next time something like this you bet your bottom dollar FFA will find a way out so as not to enforce it (unless it's really, really bad, but in that case this kind of punishment would probably be completely inappropriate).
Age old trick.
The suspended punishment puts the onus right back on the fans and supporters groups to cut out the "anti-social behaiour" during the rest of the season. Masterstroke from Gallop.
Agree with Smithy that we are about to get more lols from their complaints.
If Gallop really wanted to hurt them, he'd have fined them and taken points straight away, with an additional bond for good behaviour. This way they seem to be taking stern action while they're not really, and next time something like this you bet your bottom dollar FFA will find a way out so as not to enforce it (unless it's really, really bad, but in that case this kind of punishment would probably be completely inappropriate).
Age old trick.
Its an area they are going to have to be very careful in handling as i can see some buggars trying it to cause trouble while hiding behind another clubs colors..
This!
Two Words...
MELBOURNE STORM!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
Agree. Gallop is not an old boy in the football world and used to kicking ass in the NRL.
Grumpy old bastard alert
I'm with Patrick on this, I think Gallop has got this bang on. His experience in the NRL will be a real asset in how he deals with this.
I also think that he is unlikely to get as much pushback with this as he did say with the Salary Cap thing at the Storm. In that case, plenty of people wanted to blame the NRL instead of the Storm as they saw it as a manifestation of a ridiculous system (i'm thinking all those Gould pieces in the immediate aftermath) where here I think the entire game and media pack will be behind the FFA in wanting to cut this shit out.
www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com
http://www.westsydneyfootball.com/topic/5187-ffa-charge-mvfc-wsw-with-threat-of-points-deduction/
A surreal element is introduced by the fact that the FFA own Western Sydney Wanderers.
As one Western Sydney supporter points out:
"I think it should be a fine but as the FFA owns us they can't fine themselves and want to put out an strong message."
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
http://www.westsydneyfootball.com/topic/5187-ffa-charge-mvfc-wsw-with-threat-of-points-deduction/
A surreal element is introduced by the fact that the FFA own Western Sydney Wanderers.
As one Western Sydney supporter points out:
"I think it should be a fine but as the FFA owns us they can't fine themselves and want to put out an strong message."
Very true but you also need to keep in mind that while the FFA still technically own the Wandertards, meaning that any potential buyers and sponsors of the franchise will be watching this with very keen interest.
The reaction of the FFA does a couple of things here. Firstly it doesn't immediately harm the on field prospects of the club meaning that if the Wandertards miss out on ACL qualification it is not related to a deduction in points and secondly it still sends out a message to prospective new owners and the A-League as a whole that poor crowd behaviour is not going to be tolerated!
So, in my opinion, it isn't that they won't fine themselves because they can't but more that if they do that it have a massive impact on their ability to sell the franchise.
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
The reaction on various forums from many people is just bloody ridiculous,fortunately there are also many who seem to have had enough of the lunatic element. Maybe this is the shot across the bows that is needed to finally get something done about them.
I agree with Ballane on this. From a disciplinary point of view, a threat of points deduction can be a much more potent tool of maintaining peace than the actual points deduction (which would only escalate things probably, with the morons blaming the other club and so on).
After the previous CEO (Ben whatshisname) who was of AFL background, I was a bit worried if Gallop would be any better. So far I am quietly impressed. He does not seem to take any nonsense when it comes to dealing with the mad and the bad.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
I agree with Ballane on this. From a disciplinary point of view, a threat of points deduction can be a much more potent tool of maintaining peace than the actual points deduction (which would only escalate things probably, with the morons blaming the other club and so on).
After the previous CEO (Ben whatshisname) who was of AFL background, I was a bit worried if Gallop would be any better. So far I am quietly impressed. He does not seem to take any nonsense when it comes to dealing with the mad and the bad.
Grumpy old bastard alert
The thing is with all these solutions is....will the looney element whom get off on this sort of moronic behaviour take any notice or will it be business as usual?
That's where the RBB need to stop being so full of themselves and start weeding those clowns out from within their own group.
They know who they are
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Haha once again the Herald Sun is weighing in with some epic LOLS!
The use of the term "Cheer Squad", which is the name given to "active" AFL supporters gives you an idea of how seriously to take this article.
My favourite paragraph:
"Approximately 100 Heart supporters moved to the northern end of the ground and started to bait the opposition. This tactic was successful. For a few minutes it was chaotic as the crowd was becoming very hostile towards each other."
These few sentences to me sum up the Herald Sun and their Football coverage. To me and probably most people on this forum, that would read that a set of fans moved to the opposite side of the ground and began chanting at the opposition although I suspect the Herald Sun are trying to make something out of nothing. For me they need to define what they perceive to be "Hostile" before I actually believe that anything serious occured at that fixture.
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
That's one brave man or a lunatic
That's one brave man or a lunatic
It certainly is not "brave". People have died from that sort of thing. I always wonder what possesses people to do this. Idiots.
Grumpy old bastard alert