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Tards in town v Melb Sun 30th 4.30

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No idea.  Something to with the character stream after the filename.
 
It's hardly Smith's fault Carlos has the biggest cleavage in the league.  A man has needs.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:
No idea.� Something to with the character stream after the filename.
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It's hardly Smith's fault Carlos has the biggest cleavage in the league.� A man has needs.
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It's a re-enactment of Friday night's scoreline between the Raw and the Cakes!

Here's a transcript of the conversation:

Chris Smith wrote:
Hey Carlos, did you watch the game on friday night between Brisbane and Adelaide?
Carlos Hernandez wrote:
No I didn't. What happened?
[Quote=Chris Smith] Here, let me show you...


C-Diddy2011-10-31 11:06:25

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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As mentioned by another comment-I reckon we have played better in the last two games that we ever have. Don't have the 'name' players but some of the football has been outstanding. Regardless of how good your players are,you still need a little bit of luck- something we don't have at the moment.It is not like we have a team of no hopers.What we do lack is discipline. If we had great cover for every position then Ricki would be able to 'drop' the persistent infringers.These guys should have their pay docked if they get suspended.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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sthn.jeff wrote:
Usually I reside in Aisle 23, but ended up in 26 due to a few friends coming along, as you say Junior, it feels like Siberia along there and at half time beat a retreat to a less "vocally challenged area".
 
Not dissing those in then areas at all. Their support is just as valid and important as anyones but it is, imo, much more fun to remind the referee of his uncertain parentage and solitary sexual practices as necessary from time to time! 
 
Glad to read this as one of those who likes to belt out less than complimentary chants to other teams, players and especially referees...thought maybe I was turning into a HOOLIGAN

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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Late on here, but just a few thoughts (probably all covered elsewhere but meh).
Really liked Smith in the first half. Hope we sign him permanently despite the fact he's an import.
Annoying to watch about 15-20 long balls to Greenacre, and him winning 0% of them. Less of it than usual, but can we please scrap that tactic completely until we get some height up front.
Glad that we gave Sanchez the extra few weeks to prove himself, he looks good.
SigmUnd was very good until that brain fart.
Brown lost some crucial ball in very bad positions.
Ward needs to learn how to pass.
Still looking forward to Friday's game.
 
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hlmphil wrote:
Annoying to watch about 15-20 long balls to Greenacre, and him winning 0% of them. Less of it than usual, but can we please scrap that tactic completely until we get some height up front.
 
Some one else mentioned this, but I actually thought he won more than his share in the air yesterday and held up the ball really well when played into his feet 
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sthn.jeff wrote:

hlmphil wrote:

Annoying to watch about 15-20 long balls to Greenacre, and him winning 0% of them. Less of it than usual, but can we please scrap that tactic completely until we get some height up front.

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Some one else mentioned this, but I actually thought he won more than his share in the air yesterday and held up the ball really well when played into his feet�


He did well under the high ball, he won a fair few but then couldn't release a pass to another one of our players.

Without Ifill, our main tactic needs to be to exploit the wings, and the whip in a cross to the middle. The reason this didn't work all the time yesterday was that Bertos had a shocker, either losing the ball before he could make a cross, or the cross itself being rubbish. The next problem was, whenever Lochy or Sanchez made a decent cross, there wern't enough players in the box waiting for the header. This was where D-Mac excelled for us, he was tall and strong enough to win the ball and get a shot on target.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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sthn.jeff wrote:
hlmphil wrote:
Annoying to watch about 15-20 long balls to Greenacre, and him winning 0% of them. Less of it than usual, but can we please scrap that tactic completely until we get some height up front.
 
Some one else mentioned this, but I actually thought he won more than his share in the air yesterday and held up the ball really well when played into his feet 
Really? I was watching live, and don't remember him winning any. Would be interested to watch a replay. Totally agree that he did well when played to his feet though.
P.S. On the highlights here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThtnxGhpGI4 he gets completely skittled before the Daniel incident.
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Are they really saying Sammy Sanchez in that clip?

Or has my hearing completely gone?
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el grapadura wrote:
Are they really saying Sammy Sanchez in that clip?

Or has my hearing completely gone?


Definately called him Sammy!



"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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My opinion of Thompson's "penalty" has not changed. Was leaning forward and went down very easy when he realised he wasn't going to win the ball.

Also, Princess Leijer cleaning up Greenacre like that was nothing short of a disgrace!


"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Hard News wrote:
Marquee. Guest. Killen. Scam. Any combination of them.

My pick!

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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ForteanTimes wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
Steve-O wrote:


What I also want to know is why we applaud the likes of Siggy from the field when he's just made a reckless decision and got himself sent off, effectively costing us the game?


This. I understood why we clapped them in the last game, because neither red card was deserved. However today, it was a clear red card, and in no way something we should be applauding.
 
 
Agreed but he was cleary gutted. He is always completely comitted and did some great stuff in the first half.
 
Siggy gives his best every friggin match and therefore he can be excused the odd moment of crazyness.
 

That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Lets excuse Muscat for his one moment of craziness as well. Hell lets excuse every red card ever given because the player played committed all game and it was one moment of craziness which is forgivable. As others have said, he was on a yellow ALREADY. It wasn't one moment, it was just a plain dumb footballer.

Read the score board. That cost us the game. Not forgiveable

Grumpy old bastard alert

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StopOut wrote:
Siggy has been in great form so far. He was my hands-down MoM until he had that brain snap. I'd much rather we coughed up the second goal, lost the match and had him there next week.
Second dumbest...

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Big call to claim that cost us the game.  We have no idea how the game would have turned out there.  Archie could have scored anyway and then momentum taken them to five.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Jeff Vader wrote:

ForteanTimes wrote:

patrick478 wrote:
Steve-O wrote:

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<br sab="334">This. I understood why we clapped them in the last game, because neither red card was deserved. However today, it was a clear red card, and in no way something we should be applauding.

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Agreed but he was cleary gutted. He is always completely comitted and did some great stuff in the first half.
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Siggy gives his best every friggin match and therefore he can be excused the odd moment of crazyness.
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That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Lets excuse Muscat for his one moment of craziness as well. Hell lets excuse every red card ever given because the player played committed all game and it was one moment of craziness which is forgivable. As others have said, he was on a yellow ALREADY. It wasn't one moment, it was just a plain dumb footballer.Read the score board. That cost us the game. Not forgiveable


Unfortunately this. We would have been able to walk away with at least a point otherwise.

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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Junior82 wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Marquee. Guest. Killen. Scam. Any combination of them.


My pick!


+100

Anyone else means Ricki would need to change his preferred tactic

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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Hard News wrote:
Big call to claim that cost us the game.  We have no idea how the game would have turned out there.  Archie could have scored anyway and then momentum taken them to five.
The penalty was scored. It counts on the board. Had the penalty not been given who knows what would have happened but in terms of absolutes that we know happened, that cost us the game.We could have won had we converted. In terms of absolutes, we didn't and didn't. See how it works?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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goldienz wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:


That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Lets excuse Muscat for his one moment of craziness as well. Hell lets excuse every red card ever given because the player played committed all game and it was one moment of craziness which is forgivable. As others have said, he was on a yellow ALREADY. It wasn't one moment, it was just a plain dumb footballer.Read the score board. That cost us the game. Not forgiveable


Unfortunately this. We would have been able to walk away with at least a point otherwise.


To add to that, considering how thin our squad is, we are now even more in the poo. You think he would learn from when he popped Adrian Leijer and couldn't get back in the team and probably cost him game time at the WC but I guess not. Two things you'll never call SigmUnd is smart and disciplined.
Jeff Vader2011-10-31 16:18:00

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Jeff Vader wrote:

goldienz wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

�[QUOTE]That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Lets excuse Muscat for his one moment of craziness as well. Hell lets excuse every red card ever given because the player played committed all game and it was one moment of craziness which is forgivable. As others have said, he was on a yellow ALREADY. It wasn't one moment, it was just a plain dumb footballer.Read the score board. That cost us the game. Not forgiveable


Unfortunately this. We would have been able to walk away with at least a point otherwise.
To add to that, considering how thin our squad is, we are now even more in the poo. You think he would learn from when he popped Adrian Leijer and couldn't get back in the team and probably cost him game time at the WC but I guess not. Two things you'll never call SigmUnd is smart and disciplined.


We beat the Tards 1 - 0 for the period of the match when we had 10 men so not sure I follow your theory that we "lost" due to going down to 10...C-Diddy2011-10-31 16:20:51

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Not true, we only had 10 when they scored the penalty
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You know what I mean!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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 yeah but it does not suit the discussion so I dont see!
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OK then...

I BLAME BEN SigmUnd!!!

Is that better?

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Needs more caps and twilight-esque angst

Allegedly

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Not sure why we're all taking this one so badly. It's not like Malbin are our RRRRRRivals!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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C-Diddy wrote:
Not sure why we're all taking this one so badly. It's not like Malbin are our RRRRRRivals!
Because we could've, should've and would've won had we scored more than them
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giddyup wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:
Not sure why we're all taking this one so badly. It's not like Malbin are our RRRRRRivals!
Because we could've, should've and would've won had we scored more than them




Wow! You've just managed to sum up the game of football in one sentence!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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giddyup wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:
Not sure why we're all taking this one so badly. It's not like Malbin are our RRRRRRivals!
Because we could've, should've and would've won had Griffiths started ahead of SigmUnd
Fixed for Jeff.

Fuck this stupid game

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As much as commentators say it the daniel goal was a goal.� The rule is that the gk must have two hands on the ball, it doesnt matter if they have one hand in ful control, it has to be both.�


You are incorrect.

A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball:
� while the ball is between his hands or between his hand and any surface
(e.g. ground, own body)http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf

I wish it was a goal too but I can't argue with the laws of the game.
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William wrote:


As much as commentators say it the daniel goal was a goal.� The rule is that the gk must have two hands on the ball, it doesnt matter if they have one hand in ful control, it has to be both.�


You are incorrect.

A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball:
� while the ball is between his hands or between his hand and any surface
(e.g. ground, own body)http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf

I wish it was a goal too but I can't argue with the laws of the game.


Hey, stop quoting from the rules of the game.
It's..it's inconvenient.



"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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theprof wrote:
^ this, we all moan about not having a decent strike force, but if the players we had actually made more of the chances they create then we'd be happy. Bown needs to step up, he has fleeting moments and then goes missing for 80 minutes. Dani did well to get to the header.
 
But that's precisely the reason we do need at least one more striker? Because those that are there on the end of chances continually show they are incapable of taking most of their chances.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Jeff Vader wrote:

That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Lets excuse Muscat for his one moment of craziness as well. Hell lets excuse every red card ever given because the player played committed all game and it was one moment of craziness which is forgivable. As others have said, he was on a yellow ALREADY. It wasn't one moment, it was just a plain dumb footballer.

Read the score board. That cost us the game. Not forgiveable


I place more blame on Brown and Smith. Brown lost possession, and he jogged back to try win it back, While Smith was caught ball watching. Those mistakes put Siggy  in a 2-1 situation
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Jeff has a history of Siggy bashing IIRC.

Fuck this stupid game

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I'll confess I am not a SigmUnd fan. No problem with admitting that. He is a workmanlike CB who is not fast and regularly gets beaten in a footrace and turn, he is horrible on the ball when needs to make a decision whom to pass to (you can almost see the hamster running on the wheel in his mind) and he has frequent discipline brain lapses. But I'm not allowed to hate on him. You guys have your favourites and players you don't like and I don't bag you guys for the Phoenix players you guys don't rate (Brown gets mentioned a lot - Bertos seems to be the flavour of this week)

My general issue is that people want to forgive him for so much and overlook so many of his short comings because he plays hard. In fairness to the players, we have no idea who plays committed and its not really fair for any of us to call into question a players committment. I guess if I was one of the Phoenix players and the level with which I played at or was committed was questioned, I would be pretty pissed off.

That said, he has brain lapses ALOT but because he plays hard, we should forgive him. Its funny how other players make brain lapses, we don't forgive them because they do not have the outward appearance of playing with such perceived committment. We will blame Brown for that penalty because he didn't run back hard but because SigmUnd plays hard and thought he was back at Sumner playing rugby, thats forgivable. See how it works? If SigmUnd wasn't so 'committed' would we forgive him? If you say yes well then all your arguments go out the window for bandwagonning a player. If you say no then thats just hypocrasy but then I guess blaming Brown has just proved that.

Unfortunately, he just does not learn. I wonder if he was at any other club in the league, we would be so blind to this and if other coaches would be so lenient. We unfortunately have no one else and when we did (McKain) SigmUnd lost his place.

The facts remain. We lost by one goal. That one goal to go ahead was a penalty. That penalty was conceeded by SigmUnd. All the shoulda/coulda/woulda does not change that fact regardless how you want to argue it.
Jeff Vader2011-11-01 01:30:46

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Jeff Vader wrote:
The facts remain. We lost by one goal. That one goal to go ahead was a penalty. That penalty was conceeded by SigmUnd. All the shoulda/coulda/woulda does not change that fact regardless how you want to argue it.
That was a result of Brown and Smith f**king up.
 
You could also blame individual players for not slotting chances. Brown again, greenie.
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