Feel sorry for the chaps who said they'd bet $100 on a Phoenix win.
Goes to show bettings not worth it.
didnt want to mention it earlier....but I backed Adelade
@$1.60 only had $40 on it...wish I had of put more now
[QUOTE=Kiwi Jambo] ......We so
desperately need a big ugly hard bastard at the
back.......
We don't want Gerry Brownlee..
we have one cleberson and even better he kisses refs
Yeah, but we need one who can actually play
What's Tau Henare like with a football?
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BEN SIGMUND IF YOUR READING THIS PLEASE SIGN WITH THE
PHOENIX!
Yes! great player, did anyone else think of him? (cant believe i didnt)
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there's only one person to blame for us having sh*t defense and
thats Ricki! We had a golden opportunity to grab Danny Hay but
Ricki and his seemingly f**ked up ideas had decided against that,
only to regret it - "I'd like to revisit that option" - Ultra-poor
performance from a team that could with some decent coaching go on
to make it big, poor selections i.e. No Moss and bringing Coveny on
late, and poor tactics only means one thing A LOSS!
C'mon boys! show them your not a bunch of easy beats!
C'mon boys! show them your not a bunch of easy beats!
Danny Hay would not be a good option for the team, he is
not a team player. he only thinks of himself. Never
rated him, the best thing the Phoenix have done so far is not
sign him.
Sorry, but Danny Hay's an injury prone donkey who bailed on
the Knights when it all got too hard. Last player we
need.
I agree
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that was a sh*t game all round for phoenix,bar shane smeltz he
played awesome..there was no structure just boot the ball upfield
and let them attack us again and again...worst performance from the
boys yet we usually are a little unlucky or our defence sh*ts it
self but adelaide were the only team that shouldve won that
game..very dissapointed,hope its a one off
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there's only one person to blame for us having sh*t defense and
thats Ricki! We had a golden opportunity to grab Danny Hay but
Ricki and his seemingly f**ked up ideas had decided against that,
only to regret it - "I'd like to revisit that option" - Ultra-poor
performance from a team that could with some decent coaching go on
to make it big, poor selections i.e. No Moss and bringing Coveny on
late in game (why? the mans 102 years old!), and poor tactics only
means one thing A LOSS!
C'mon boys! show them your not a bunch of easy beats!
C'mon boys! show them your not a bunch of easy beats!
You're just repeating what was said in the article earlier today/yesterday. I doubt you even knew who Danny Hay was before that article.
DOUBT ALL YOU WANT, i've been following Danny Hay since the Kingz and hes always impressed.
Well youve been watching something else to the rest of us.
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Shane Smeltz had a good game
But the rest well lets start at the back. Big mistake plaing Patson ahead of Mossy whose played well considering the lack of defence. I'm a fan of Lockhead but tonight neither him or Christie pushed up like they have done in previous games. There's no pace in the back four, how many times have we been beaten by a simple through ball!!
Lia is average. The midfield hasn't worked together or fallen back when appropriate. And when ever we are going forward we are always facing the wrong way and playing it back then a wild ball over the top. Aloisi is very over rated he's slow and lacks skill.
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But the rest well lets start at the back. Big mistake plaing Patson ahead of Mossy whose played well considering the lack of defence. I'm a fan of Lockhead but tonight neither him or Christie pushed up like they have done in previous games. There's no pace in the back four, how many times have we been beaten by a simple through ball!!
Lia is average. The midfield hasn't worked together or fallen back when appropriate. And when ever we are going forward we are always facing the wrong way and playing it back then a wild ball over the top. Aloisi is very over rated he's slow and lacks skill.
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You were making sense until the Aloisi comment then you lost it totally
Nah i agree with him Aloisi hasn't shown anything special i'd
much rather have someone like Johnson in the heart of the midfield
Aloisi does look too slow but it's up to Ricki whether he bites the
bullet and drops his captain or not.
As for the game, well, the first 3 minutes were
alright...
As someone said to me yesterday players like Daniel, Felipe,
Elrich and Smeltz must be so frustrated at their defence who have
given them zero support so far this season. Not a clean sheet yet
and an average of two goals conceded per game is very poor. Ricki
must sign a quality centre back or perhaps even right back because
Christie is going back to his usual self and O'Dor doesn't cut
it i'm afraid.
Next week, i think we will nick a draw in Perth, maybe even a
smash and grab win if we're lucky, but the defence will have to
step up big time cause Perth are scoring goals in recent weeks so
they won't be lousy up front.
Still no matter what, PHOENIX TILL I DIE!!
Agree, I've been disappointed with Aloisi all year. Glad that Ricki finally took him off. If someone is your highest earner, and he is outside Elrich, and your leader, and he is, you expect more from him. His distribution has been poor and his lack of pace is being exposed.
But again, defending begins from the front and if the likes of Felipe, Daniel and Elrich can't be bothered to turn on their heels and track back what hope does our defence have?
It's time they all got a size 10 up their arse and got some desperation into their play. We are now playing cup football every week if we want to make the top 4 or barring that just winning games by being more desperate, more hungry than other sides.
I've got to question Rikci's tactics away from home. Playing Felipe, Daniel and Elrich is asking for trouble. Where's swamping the midfield and hitting on the counter? I know he was hindered by a new centreback pairing but FFS - we brought this on ourselves.
It's just like watching Spurs ....
we all know how the Spurs coach ended up
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there's only one person to blame for us having sh*t defense and
thats Ricki! We had a golden opportunity to grab Danny Hay but
Ricki and his seemingly f**ked up ideas had decided against that,
only to regret it - "I'd like to revisit that option" - Ultra-poor
performance from a team that could with some decent coaching go on
to make it big, poor selections i.e. No Moss and bringing Coveny on
late in game (why? the mans 102 years old!), and poor tactics only
means one thing A LOSS!
C'mon boys! show them your not a bunch of easy beats!
C'mon boys! show them your not a bunch of easy beats!
You're just repeating what was said in the article earlier today/yesterday. I doubt you even knew who Danny Hay was before that article.
DOUBT ALL YOU WANT, i've been following Danny Hay since the Kingz and hes always impressed.
Danny Hay was well past his best when he came to the Kingz and
before that he wasnt much better
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BEN SIGMUND IF YOUR READING THIS PLEASE SIGN WITH THE
PHOENIX!
That man deserves a DB. Ive been saying Sigmunds name since Aucklands game against Man Ura, where he impressed me again,.
Wolfben2007-10-28 21:33:46
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[QUOTE=Kiwi Jambo] ......We so
desperately need a big ugly hard bastard at the
back.......
We don't want Gerry Brownlee..
we have one cleberson and even better he kisses refs
Yeah, but we need one who can actually play
What's Tau Henare like with a football?
Get Mallard at least he has some fight in him.
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there's only one person to blame for us having sh*t defense and
thats Ricki! We had a golden opportunity to grab Danny Hay but
Ricki and his seemingly f**ked up ideas had decided against that,
only to regret it - "I'd like to revisit that option" - Ultra-poor
performance from a team that could with some decent coaching go on
to make it big, poor selections i.e. No Moss and bringing Coveny on
late in game (why? the mans 102 years old!), and poor tactics only
means one thing A LOSS!
C'mon boys! show them your not a bunch of easy beats!
C'mon boys! show them your not a bunch of easy beats!
You're just repeating what was said in the article earlier today/yesterday. I doubt you even knew who Danny Hay was before that article.
DOUBT ALL YOU WANT, i've been following Danny Hay since the Kingz and hes always impressed.
Well youve been watching something else to the rest of us.
Is that so? so your opinion counts for EVERYONE who's ever watched Danny Hay now?
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Shane Smeltz had a good game
But the rest well lets start at the back. Big mistake plaing Patson ahead of Mossy whose played well considering the lack of defence. I'm a fan of Lockhead but tonight neither him or Christie pushed up like they have done in previous games. There's no pace in the back four, how many times have we been beaten by a simple through ball!!
Lia is average. The midfield hasn't worked together or fallen back when appropriate. And when ever we are going forward we are always facing the wrong way and playing it back then a wild ball over the top. Aloisi is very over rated he's slow and lacks skill.
<snip the rest>
But the rest well lets start at the back. Big mistake plaing Patson ahead of Mossy whose played well considering the lack of defence. I'm a fan of Lockhead but tonight neither him or Christie pushed up like they have done in previous games. There's no pace in the back four, how many times have we been beaten by a simple through ball!!
Lia is average. The midfield hasn't worked together or fallen back when appropriate. And when ever we are going forward we are always facing the wrong way and playing it back then a wild ball over the top. Aloisi is very over rated he's slow and lacks skill.
<snip the rest>
You were making sense until the Aloisi comment then you lost it totally
Nah i agree with him Aloisi hasn't shown anything special i'd
much rather have someone like Johnson in the heart of the midfield
Aloisi does look too slow but it's up to Ricki whether he bites the
bullet and drops his captain or not.
As for the game, well, the first 3 minutes were
alright...
As someone said to me yesterday players like Daniel, Felipe,
Elrich and Smeltz must be so frustrated at their defence who have
given them zero support so far this season. Not a clean sheet yet
and an average of two goals conceded per game is very poor. Ricki
must sign a quality centre back or perhaps even right back because
Christie is going back to his usual self and O'Dor doesn't cut
it i'm afraid.
Next week, i think we will nick a draw in Perth, maybe even a
smash and grab win if we're lucky, but the defence will have to
step up big time cause Perth are scoring goals in recent weeks so
they won't be lousy up front.
Still no matter what, PHOENIX TILL I DIE!!
Agree, I've been disappointed with Aloisi all year. Glad that Ricki finally took him off. If someone is your highest earner, and he is outside Elrich, and your leader, and he is, you expect more from him. His distribution has been poor and his lack of pace is being exposed.
But again, defending begins from the front and if the likes of Felipe, Daniel and Elrich can't be bothered to turn on their heels and track back what hope does our defence have?
It's time they all got a size 10 up their arse and got some desperation into their play. We are now playing cup football every week if we want to make the top 4 or barring that just winning games by being more desperate, more hungry than other sides.
I've got to question Rikci's tactics away from home. Playing Felipe, Daniel and Elrich is asking for trouble. Where's swamping the midfield and hitting on the counter? I know he was hindered by a new centreback pairing but FFS - we brought this on ourselves.
It's just like watching Spurs ....
Aloisi is allright, just had a mear today, possibly due to
homecoming and emotions riding etc. But your right about the lack
of hunger, we need to want to win more than the other team.
Benching a few players maybe the right sort of size 10's they
need.
I say tackle him in the face.
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Yeah, Ziggy would be a great signing.
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Always saw Mallard as more of a midfield player, or a
striker maybe 
Auckland Jag2007-10-28 21:34:46
Auckland Jag2007-10-28 21:34:46
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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aloisi's been by passed - it's not entirely his fault.
he's being over crowded in a narrow midfield five and has
spent most of the season playing alongside another holding
midfielder. i have heaps of other observations about what is
affecting hisgame, but in short he's not being helped by the
general midfield confusion and having to play a little deeper than
usual because of a less than adequate defence.
earlier in the season he was covering good yards and he had
passing options.
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DOUBT ALL YOU WANT, i've been following Danny Hay since the Kingz and hes always impressed.
It's not so much his ability - it's his atitude. He
thinks he's bigger than the team - and tries to distance himself
when things aren't going well.
Ask anyone that has played with him for any stretch of time
and they all have no respect for him. He is cancerous.
Cnut2007-10-28 21:36:09
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there's only one person to blame for us having sh*t defense and
thats Ricki! We had a golden opportunity to grab Danny Hay but
Ricki and his seemingly f**ked up ideas had decided against that,
only to regret it - "I'd like to revisit that option" - Ultra-poor
performance from a team that could with some decent coaching go on
to make it big, poor selections i.e. No Moss and bringing Coveny on
late in game (why? the mans 102 years old!), and poor tactics only
means one thing A LOSS!
C'mon boys! show them your not a bunch of easy beats!
C'mon boys! show them your not a bunch of easy beats!
You're just repeating what was said in the article earlier today/yesterday. I doubt you even knew who Danny Hay was before that article.
DOUBT ALL YOU WANT, i've been following Danny Hay since the Kingz and hes always impressed.
Well youve been watching something else to the rest of us.
Is that so? so your opinion counts for EVERYONE who's ever watched Danny Hay now?
No, but ask the majority, Danny Hay has not been that impressive for a NZ based side. Someones already pointed that out before me
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so if thats the case, why has he been playing for the Whites for 9
years and captained them? If he isnt a team player, why would the
coach give him captaincy? Danny_Biggie2007-10-28 21:37:08
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DOUBT ALL YOU WANT, i've been following Danny Hay since the Kingz and hes always impressed.
It's not so much his ability - it's his atitude. He
thinks he's bigger than the team - and tries to distance himself
when things aren't going well.
Ask anyone that has played with him for any stretch of time
and they all have no respect for him. He is cancerous.
Agree 100%
Three for me, and two for them.
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I am going to focus on the Smeltz. class, again. lochead solid. elrich handy at times. a few decent corners from daniel. not much else!
lets make sure we earn our right to moan and berate the team
by sticking with them and getting behind them on nov 17.
As for Garry's complete rubbish ...
The ffa gave wellington the licence on hoping we would
only finish last by ten points and avg 4,000 crowds. we are
f#@king miles ahead of their wildest
dreams. 4-1 or not.
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Is that so? so your opinion counts for EVERYONE who's ever
watched Danny Hay now?
Dude, it's all good defending a player, but you are the only
one defending him or his ability. We are better off without him -
even if he is better in terms of his ability than the likes of
Old
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DOUBT ALL YOU WANT, i've been following Danny Hay since the Kingz and hes always impressed.
It's not so much his ability - it's his atitude. He
thinks he's bigger than the team - and tries to distance himself
when things aren't going well.
Ask anyone that has played with him for any stretch of time
and they all have no respect for him. He is cancerous.
poses the question really doesn't it...
should we select teams based purely on ability?
i would suggest that too many teams in this country have in
the past been selected for reasons other than ability. quite
often your best players are utter pr1cks.
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You mean the All Whites I assume.
How are we supposed to know? Ask Ricki, he picks the team. All the reports coming out of teams is that hes disruptive.
How are we supposed to know? Ask Ricki, he picks the team. All the reports coming out of teams is that hes disruptive.
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BEN SIGMUND sounds like a fair option ;)
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changing the subject, what about CHE BUNCE, for central def?
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Always saw Mallard as more of a midfield player, or a striker maybe
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Yeah, Ziggy would be a great signing.
Sigmund is a hard-working passionate player that puts his body
on the line, maybe guilty of over-committing at times but wouldnt
you rather that than some of the defending weve seen from our backs
this year?
Old out - Sigmund In
Clebo back to brazil, an experienced 26-30 year old centre
back in.
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WE bet perth 4-1. We not the only team to be given a drubbing +
adelaide imo are the best team in the league.
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Definetly Ben Sigmund, though he'd be a huge loss for ACFC
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changing the subject, what about CHE BUNCE, for central def?
What about no?
Three for me, and two for them.
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I am going to focus on the Smeltz. class, again. lochead solid. elrich handy at times. a few decent corners from daniel. not much else!
lets make sure we earn our right to moan and berate the team
by sticking with them and getting behind them on nov 17.
As for Garry's complete rubbish ...
The ffa gave wellington the licence on hoping we would
only finish last by ten points and avg 4,000 crowds. we are
f#@king miles ahead of their wildest
dreams. 4-1 or not.
Of course we are, I never said the crowds were bad, its now
second biggest game in town to the canes.
As for finishing last, another month like the last and thats
on the cards.
Aand if it come to us or an aussie franchise in two years, why
wouldnt they screw us??
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Che had issues with Ricki during that visit to South America so I
would be surprised if he was considered. And, in my opinion, he is
too slow to foot in the league. I would say that we would need to
look outside of NZ if we were to sign another defender - unless we
got Sigmund, but he is unproven at this level, and what we need now
is a seasoned player to partner Dodd.
Although, I though O'Dor actually played OK tonight
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WE bet perth 4-1. We not the only team to be given a drubbing +
adelaide imo are the best team in the league.
If we play like we have recently and Perth play like they have recently, we'll be on the end of a wipping.
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changing the subject, what about CHE BUNCE, for central def?
What about no?
Why not? if hes good enough for the Whites he sure as hell is good enough for Wellington...
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WE bet perth 4-1. We not the only team to be given a drubbing +
adelaide imo are the best team in the league.
Yeah, give them credit, Adelaide are a fine team and in really
good form. Pantelis, Dodd and Burns have ripped a few teams
up this year, including Melbourne. Maybe they didn't let the
Nix play rather than the Nix being rubbish.
Selhurst Park, 25 January 1995
What else could he have done?
What else could he have done?
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WE bet perth 4-1. We not the only team to be given a drubbing +
adelaide imo are the best team in the league.
Yeah, give them credit, Adelaide are a fine team and in really
good form. Pantelis, Dodd and Burns have ripped a few teams
up this year, including Melbourne. Maybe they didn't let the
Nix play rather than the Nix being rubbish.
umm no they played like sh*t
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He's not good enough for the AW's neither is Campbell but who's
going on about him being in there?
Three for me, and two for them.
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BEN SIGMUND IF YOUR READING THIS PLEASE SIGN WITH THE
PHOENIX!
That man deserves a DB. Ive been saying Sigmunds name since Aucklands game against Man Ura, where he impressed me again,.
Sigmund can't sign with the Phoenix. He's played for two sides in a calander year being July to June.
How Dean Gordon got away with it last year, I don't know.
DrQuack322007-10-28 21:46:37
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changing the subject, what about CHE BUNCE, for central def?
What about no?
Why not? if hes good enough for the Whites he sure as hell is good enough for Wellington...
Its the ALL Whites. anyway im stopping replying to your posts as they are just too stupid
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BEN SIGMUND IF YOUR READING THIS PLEASE SIGN WITH THE
PHOENIX!
That man deserves a DB. Ive been saying Sigmunds name since Aucklands game against Man Ura, where he impressed me again,.
Sigmund can't sign with the Phoenix. He's played for two sides in a calander year.
How Dean Gordon got away with it last year, I don't know.
Bummer for the Nix, positive for ACFC. I get to see him play either way
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