The Troy Hearfield Thread

The Troy Hearfield Thread

Has he been the biggest improver in our season and has he been the catalyst for our improved form?  He seem to create goals and chances and is confident on the ball but game wise he still seems to be a little inconsistent.

People treat him slightly better then how they treat Paston on here tbh. He does look good however and is one of our quicker players so I think he will develop alright.wellyphoenixfan2009-01-06 00:19:17

comeon man I didn't see mayze in your Paston thread!

yeh the jury is still out on Hearfield I think. Has periods of killing attacks and good chances, but has managed to get involved in a couple of handy goals, and assisted a few as well.

omg wellyphoenix,get over it. No one here has even come close to calling paston crap. And why you decided to post it in a thread about hearfield,is that thread hijacking thing again.

One thing I have noticed is how well he has played against Newcastle in the last two games is it 1 goal and 3 assists?

I dont think he communicates very well with the rest of the midfield

Hearfield reminds me of the work experience kid - he's keen but green. Full of enthusiasm in his running, but almost nothing he does actually comes off. Apart from that very nice curled cross for the first goal of course.

He's OK, but he shouldn't be starting ahead of Daniel.

Doesn't have any X-factor, just another useful player.

But he is very quick and thats something we lack alot of.

I have to be honest, he has improved a lot. At first I thought he wasn't worth a place in the squad, but now I have to take that back, and rightfully so.

Yes I don't know why Kwasnik is not playing well really he should be an easy choice for Ricki but for some reason this season he is just not playing well.

NO NO NO!!
I am so f**king sick of this daniel fad.
Daniel doesnt deserve a start .
If you say he does then you were watching a different game bevan.
Hearfeild definately deserves a start over daniel.

Sorry to bring up daniel on this thread.
Back to troyStefan2009-01-06 01:05:00

Kwasnik had his chance and failed.

All aboard the daniel band wagon!

Can we keep this on Hearfield?  This isn't about Hearfield v Daniel

Yeah sorry.
The daniel thing just pisses me off alot.

I dont know how troy will do next season.
I get the feeling that he will do better and not be so inconsistant.

He is young and even though its so cliche, he may just be working out his position in a game situation.. It cant be easy in the a-league because it varies every week.

I hope that made some sence

No I think that is right, it's a big step up when you realise that you will be playing every week and you are relied upon to deliver every week.  The fact that we have a midfielder who is able to score goals is important.  We've never really had anyone playing in midfield who has been able to score.  It takes a lot of pressure of Smeltz and makes us more of an attacking threat

Actual age?

Yes, he has been a little inconsistent, though has improved greatly, BUT: As one of our youth players(he's turned 21 end of October HB), he's actually made a difference. Especially in the last two matches: made a couple of goals, scored one, and pressured the Queensland defense into scoring an (admittedly soft) own goal. If next year we get another youth player who can play like he has this season (I think he'll be too old then right?), I would be very happy.

b. October 31st 1987.
So age 21

Personally I think he has a long was to go, he may have had a good second half on Sunday, but his first half was horrible, his first touch was poor and he gave a lot of possession away.

He needs to learn to read the place better and anticipate his team mates, also work on his first touch. I also thought his challenging for headers was very ordinary, he looks only a fraction shorter than Smeltz but he needs to get more physical even if it means giving away a few free kicks like Smeltz does.

He may well become a very important player for the Phoenix, but in my opinion he isn't there just yet.

Fitz

He has got better as the season has progressed but to me he is a solid squad player. I would hope we would recruit someone more dynamic for next season. OK he has got a few crosses in and got 2 goals but he's an attacking midfielder....thats his job. Too often he has died with the ball...been dispossesed or made a run and become isolated. We need someone with more vision, someone who can feed his fellow attackers and then make runs to draw away defenders.

He loses the ball way too often at this level but has shown he has the potential. Seems to be way ahead of our other young players (nameless). His cross for Leo's goal was the best moment from him IMO. His other efforts have been hit and hope which came off (as a sub when he set one up and also scored).
I don't think he should be a starter for the team but with Fred gone it's between him and Kwasnik. I'd go for Kwasnik for his experience and he doesn't give the ball away. Kwasnik isn't a livewire as such but you can't afford to hand the opposition the ball.

Where the hell is Mayzee?

I think Ricki has one eye on the future with Hearfield - like some have said he needs gametime to improve his game and he is doing so.  With Smeltz leaving next season if we look at a worst case scenario we may have to rely on the likes of Hearfield and Bertos to play as forwards, by starting Hearfield off early he gets a chance to prove he's worth a non-youth spot in the team.

I think there's something to Hearfield. Like Zinidane said, he's busy, and always tries to get himself involved, can defend and track back, and I like that in a player, especially young one.
His weaknesses lie in limited technical ability - his first touch and running with the ball need a lot of work if he's gonna be a permanent fixture in the A-league - and I don't think he's as quick as some people here are suggesting he is. He's certainly been run down by pedestrian centre-backs on a few occasions. The other problem he has is that he's been tried and played in at least 3 different positions this season, and personally I think it's difficult for young players to adjust to their role in the team at the best of times, let alone if you go from right back to forward to wide midfielder and then winger. It's hard, but I've seen enough to think he's worth keeping and persisting with.

And for a quick hijack: Hearfield over Daniel/Kwasnik any day.

Still learning his trade at this level. Positives are good attitude and work ethic and does get into forward positions. Weaknesses are gives away possession far too easily, not aware of where team mates are (to be fair sometimes our midfield hide and do not show for ball) and moves generally die when he gets possession.

One of difficulties with a Hearfield is he needs and will benefit from experience playing at this level and he has the talent to improve, but generally his performances have not been that effective.

I think he's definately a long term prospect fpr the Nix, he does seem to lack a bit of ball control - loses it way too often for my liking - especially when he's done a lot of the hard work. Has pace, but doesn't seem to have the presence on the ball to make his pace count.

I feel hearfield has great technical ability..and having gone through the AIS and AUS youth sides under some good coaches (Steve O'Connor)..he attacks with pace and likes to take on players..i feel he needs to get a little more selfish in the box, take that last player on and have a shot..instead of laying it off..he has shown to be able to set up some nice crosses and score also..i think when he goes on some runs, he doesnt have the support up front with him..the midfield dont support the strikers enough..phoenix defend way to deep, which also affects the attack, with a huge hole in the middle of the park between attack and defence..

That's quite true actually.

Well, other than the bit about Hearfield's great technical ability...

Royal2009-01-06 16:16:56

Hearfield has heaps of potential, awesome pace but just lacks that bit of finess to make it all work. I admire his never give up even if it doesnt work atitude. I am glad he is getting game time and hopefully next season will come into his own and live up to that potential.

it doesnt come off his shin mate..ive watched it in slow motion to prove someone else wrong..u seem him open up nicely to place to ball in..his crosses all year have been good..alot better then others such as lochhead (the worst crosser in the a-league)

I almost wanted to push the report button for that quote.

Karl Dodd can't even pass a f**king football and you call Lockhead the worse crosser in the league? Pull your tongue out of Troys' asshole will ya....

Hearfield goes missing for 90% of the game then pops up with an assist every couple of games when he finally decides to try and take on his man. Much like Smeltz, really. (though Smeltz scores obviously) valeo2009-01-07 02:18:28

Lochhead is..watch his crosses..every time they are just floated in..very annoying..he needs to whip the ball in hard and low..