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Ticket prices 09/10

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Ticket prices 09/10
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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Thoughts on ticket prices for next season.
 
I think the market will be more sensitive than usual to ticket prices for the next year or two - people worried about their jobs, asset values down, costs every increasing etc etc. In this environment the club will need to think very carefully about ticket prices.
 
Next season there will be 27 games with, presumably, the Nix having 13 at home compared to 11 this year so season tickets would, you expect, go up by 18% (2 more games) before any inflationary adjustment is made. I think an 18% increase will be a bit of struggle for some / many let alone any additional inflationary increase.
 
If we are to target families - which I think is  the right strategy - we should look at extending the coverage of the family season and match day tickets. We have 3 classes of concession ticket - child, student and pensioner - all the same price. I suggest they are all rolled in to 1 i.e we have one concession ticket that can cover a child, student or pensioner. I would like to see the family ticket cover 2 adults and 2 "concessions" e.g. 2 adults and 2 children or students or pensioners. I think this would encourage more parents to buy a season family pass as they could take their kids or parents. I think it would also encourage a few students to persuade the old man to buy a family season ticket.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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Whitby boy wrote:
Thoughts on ticket prices for next season.
 
I think the market will be more sensitive than usual to ticket prices for the next year or two - people worried about their jobs, asset values down, costs every increasing etc etc. In this environment the club will need to think very carefully about ticket prices.
 
Next season there will be 27 games with, presumably, the Nix having 13 at home compared to 11 this year so season tickets would, you expect, go up by 18% (2 more games) before any inflationary adjustment is made. I think an 18% increase will be a bit of struggle for some / many let alone any additional inflationary increase.
 
If we are to target families - which I think is  the right strategy - we should look at extending the coverage of the family season and match day tickets. We have 3 classes of concession ticket - child, student and pensioner - all the same price. I suggest they are all rolled in to 1 i.e we have one concession ticket that can cover a child, student or pensioner. I would like to see the family ticket cover 2 adults and 2 "concessions" e.g. 2 adults and 2 children or students or pensioners. I think this would encourage more parents to buy a season family pass as they could take their kids or parents. I think it would also encourage a few students to persuade the old man to buy a family season ticket.


I really don't care what they charge,(within reason), as long as the sort out that bloody fiasco that is ticketek. I honestly think the price for season tickets has been reasonable, so expect around the same next season.

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I'll pay almost anything to go see all 13 games, even more if we manage to get in the top four!
would be ok with $250ish.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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It's not you guys that are the challenge - it's the discretionary punter we want to attract that we need to think about.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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I know a few people that have been to a game or two near the end of this season and now swear they're going to get season tickets next year.  They mostly work in IT like me as well, so (within reason) price won't be that much of an issue.
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I doubt the game price will increase per game, so the average - non season ticket holding - punter can still rock up for $25 and see the game! just has more choice now and more games to go to.....

Queenslander 3x a year.

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invariably nothing ever gets cheaper so an increase is a given..hopefully not too much that it puts occassional game atenders off. I an happy to any increase for my season ticket but hope that they sort bloody Ticketek out for the continual fiasco of actually getting tickets to the fans

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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Paying $30 per adult was one of the rasons a lot of people stayed away, and of course so many damn Sunday games. Why at the stadium you have to pay a $3 booking fee? You're at the damn place and can sit virtualy anywhere you choose.
 
Sorry but I thought th prices for non season ticket holders were a rip for what you got. If you want to encourage more people try $20 in the current economic climate. ($20 Includes $3 booking fee)
 
If I pay $220 again for my season ticket I would be happy. xtra games, up to $250.
 
Ps: And remember, we season ticket holders were going to get niled extra for playoff games. Really there should be an incentive to encourage season ticket purchases such as a free playoff home ticket (But pay if we made the final with first chance on buying tickets)
Lonegunmen2009-01-26 17:36:36
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The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Niled extra for playoff games?
 
Assuming you mean, we were going to have to pay for playoff tickets, I can't see the problem. As season ticket holders, I would expect to have priority on buying my own seats before public sale. I wouldn't expect free tickets. If we make the playoffs, we are only guaranteed one home game. Why would we expect the club to give away tickets for that?
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Booking fees are a real rip off and money making at its worst

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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Season memberships are relatively cheap compared to the Hurricanes season passes btw
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Hurricane passes have just gone on sale "from" $220 for the Super 14, NPC and preferential purchasing of any internationals.

People who show up at the ground are not booking anything, they are at the ground, therefore they should not have to pay a booking fee at the ground. CON is a better word for it. If you booked your tickets away from the ground such as in Upper Hutt or Lower Hutt, then I could understand the fee.

Remember we are trying to grab the fair weather fans and curious fans. The hard core regulars dont need to be targeted, chances are they will show. But we are meant to be trying to attracted the undecided punters and to be honest, $30 for 90 minutes when a 2 hour movie is $17  and car parking if there is a fee is probably gonna cost you a tenner at most. No, the stadium along with the Phoenix and Ticketec really need to review their situation and drop the prices. Parking, Food, Drinks and Booking fees and tickets. Not every fan is in high paid jobs. We want to attract as many as we can.
Lonegunmen2009-01-26 22:05:43
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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The cost of a season ticket for the Hurricanes/Lions in the same area I sit in is $414 for the 09 season and is for 12 or 13 games.  I think the Phoenix season ticket is excellent value.  I love the fact I can sit down undercover, use toilets where the floors aren't covered in piss, get hot chips in under five minutes and be in the middle of the city and close to everything.  The atmosphere inside the ground is great and most importantly....its football, in Wellington and has given me something to do for 11 soon to be 13 or 14 weekends of the year.  I love it, and I thank everyone who has made it possible because I no longer have to try and give a sh*t about rugby!

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Lonegunmen wrote:

Hurricane passes have just gone on sale "from" $220 for the Super 14, NPC and preferential purchasing of any internationals.


People who show up�at the ground�are not booking anything, they are at the ground, therefore they should not have to pay a booking fee at the ground. CON is a better word for it. If you booked your tickets away from the ground such as in Upper Hutt or Lower Hutt, then I could understand the fee.


Remember we are trying to grab the fair weather fans and curious fans. The hard core regulars dont need to be targeted, chances are they will show. But we are meant to be trying to attracted the undecided punters and to be honest, $30 for 90 minutes when a 2 hour movie is $17� and car parking if there is a fee is probably gonna cost you a tenner at most. No, the stadium along with the Phoenix and Ticketec really need to review their situation and drop the prices. Parking, Food, Drinks�and Booking fees and tickets. Not every fan is in high paid jobs. We want to attract as many as we can.


LG, I was paying way more than that for a Hurricanes/Lions season pass when I was living in Wellington, and that was around 5 years ago.

The Nix have to deal with somebody to sort out the ticketing, if it's not Ticketek it'll be somebody else. They all charge booking fees. The Nix, I would imagine, also have no control over the price of parking, food and drink at the Stadium. So, while I agree with the sentiments you're expressing, I don't believe that there is very much that the Welligton Phoenix can do in those areas.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I agree that season ticket prices are very reasonable - my suggestion, to increase the number of season ticket holders, is to extend the definition of family (in family season ticket) to 2 adults and 2 "concessions" (child, student or pensioner).

My crystal ball tells me that the adult season ticket price for 09/10 will be $250 ($225 this season) for 12 home games (11 this season) and we will play 1 home game in Christchurh. I wouldn't mind 1 home game out of 13 away from Wellington - I think you would get a great crowd in ChCh for a one-off game and the extra revenue would be useful in what I suspect will be a financially challenging year.
 
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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Lonegunmen wrote:

Hurricane passes have just gone on sale "from" $220 for the Super 14, NPC and preferential purchasing of any internationals.

A workmate just renewed his season pass for the rugby it was something like $600
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Personally, i think that the season tickets are at quite a reasonable price and even a small price raise would not put me off buying my season tickets.
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Whitby boy wrote:
and we will play 1 home game in Christchurh. I wouldn't mind 1 home game out of 13 away from Wellington - I think you would get a great crowd in ChCh for a one-off game and the extra revenue would be useful in what I suspect will be a financially challenging year. 
 
I don't really want to start this argument again, but that would piss me off.
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how much have adult / student / child season passes been this season??

got some younger cousins who I took to one game (Melbourne win) and are now keen for the whole season haha.


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playwithFire wrote:
how much have adult / student / child season passes been this season??got some younger cousins who I took to one game (Melbourne win) and are now keen for the whole season haha.


Going with Silver prices

Adult: $225
Concession: $135
Child: $110

Family: $520 (2 adults + 2 children)
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Whitby boy wrote:

I agree that season ticket prices are very reasonable - my suggestion, to increase the number of season ticket holders, is to extend the definition of family (in family season ticket) to 2 adults and 2 "concessions" (child, student or pensioner).

My crystal ball tells me that the adult season ticket price for 09/10 will be $250 ($225 this season) for 12 home games (11 this season) and we will play 1 home game in Christchurh. I wouldn't mind 1 home game out of 13 away from Wellington - I think you would get a great crowd in ChCh for a one-off game and the extra revenue would be useful in what I suspect will be a financially challenging year.
 
 
i would, i would mind very much
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wingback4eva wrote:
Whitby boy wrote:
and we will play 1 home game in Christchurh. I wouldn't mind 1 home game out of 13 away from Wellington - I think you would get a great crowd in ChCh for a one-off game and the extra revenue would be useful in what I suspect will be a financially challenging year. 
 
I don't really want to start this argument again, but that would piss me off.


same, WELLINGTON phoenix, sorry to all those christchurchers
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yomcat wrote:
playwithFire wrote:
how much have adult / student / child season passes been this season??got some younger cousins who I took to one game (Melbourne win) and are now keen for the whole season haha.


Going with Silver prices

Adult: $225
Concession: $135
Child: $110

Family: $520 (2 adults + 2 children)


That's good because I told them the kids price was about 100. hopefully it wont increase by too much and hopefully that will be another extra 4 or 5 regulars. Just gotta sort out some of those nasty nightshifts at work...


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Torne wrote:
wingback4eva wrote:
Whitby boy wrote:
and we will play 1 home game in Christchurh. I wouldn't mind 1 home game out of 13 away from Wellington - I think you would get a great crowd in ChCh for a one-off game and the extra revenue would be useful in what I suspect will be a financially challenging year. 
 
I don't really want to start this argument again, but that would piss me off.


same, WELLINGTON phoenix, sorry to all those christchurchers


I do think that we should be putting pre season games down there because there has been a bit of interest coming from chch. they have had decent crowds down there and If NZ were to have a 2nd A-League club then I think that would be the area to do it.

Auck have had their chance now. Don't see it has a short term reality but could be potential
playwithFire2009-01-27 10:48:46


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playwithFire wrote:

I do think that we should be putting pre season games down there because there has been a bit of interest coming from chch. they have had decent crowds down there and If NZ were to have a 2nd A-League club then I think that would be the area to do it.

Auck have had their chance now. Don't see it has a short term reality but could be potential
 
So the WELLINGTON Phoenix should play games anywhere there is a bit of interest then? I don't live in Wellington or Christchurch and I don't think they should playing outside Wellington.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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playwithFire wrote:
Torne wrote:
wingback4eva wrote:
Whitby boy wrote:
and we will play 1 home game in Christchurh. I wouldn't mind 1 home game out of 13 away from Wellington - I think you would get a great crowd in ChCh for a one-off game and the extra revenue would be useful in what I suspect will be a financially challenging year. 
 
I don't really want to start this argument again, but that would piss me off.


same, WELLINGTON phoenix, sorry to all those christchurchers


I do think that we should be putting pre season games down there because there has been a bit of interest coming from chch. they have had decent crowds down there and If NZ were to have a 2nd A-League club then I think that would be the area to do it.

Auck have had their chance now. Don't see it has a short term reality but could be potential


There is a big football following down in christchurch so i beleive that a 2nd A-League team would work well down there
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Jag wrote:
playwithFire wrote:

I do think that we should be putting pre season games down there because there has been a bit of interest coming from chch. they have had decent crowds down there and If NZ were to have a 2nd A-League club then I think that would be the area to do it.

Auck have had their chance now. Don't see it has a short term reality but could be potential
 
So the WELLINGTON Phoenix should play games anywhere there is a bit of interest then? I don't live in Wellington or Christchurch and I don't think they should playing outside Wellington.


No - I mean they should continue playing preseason games down there as they have so far because It helps build football support in that region and also gives the phoenix more national fans which is a good thing for the club. The more supporters, the stronger the club.

I don't want any home games played down there or anything like that - the ROF is definitely home of the Phoenix, but I think the more off season games the team can play around the country, the more support and interest the club can attract.


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Torne wrote:
playwithFire wrote:
Torne wrote:
wingback4eva wrote:
Whitby boy wrote:
and we will play 1 home game in Christchurh. I wouldn't mind 1 home game out of 13 away from Wellington - I think you would get a great crowd in ChCh for a one-off game and the extra revenue would be useful in what I suspect will be a financially challenging year. 
 
I don't really want to start this argument again, but that would piss me off.


same, WELLINGTON phoenix, sorry to all those christchurchers


I do think that we should be putting pre season games down there because there has been a bit of interest coming from chch. they have had decent crowds down there and If NZ were to have a 2nd A-League club then I think that would be the area to do it.

Auck have had their chance now. Don't see it has a short term reality but could be potential


There is a big football following down in christchurch so i beleive that a 2nd A-League team would work well down there


It would work quite well IMO. The stadium down there is quite nice and the sporting set up down there is quite positive. hopefully that would follow onto football.
Of course this would be a long term thing


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playwithFire wrote:
Jag wrote:
playwithFire wrote:

I do think that we should be putting pre season games down there because there has been a bit of interest coming from chch. they have had decent crowds down there and If NZ were to have a 2nd A-League club then I think that would be the area to do it.

Auck have had their chance now. Don't see it has a short term reality but could be potential
 
So the WELLINGTON Phoenix should play games anywhere there is a bit of interest then? I don't live in Wellington or Christchurch and I don't think they should playing outside Wellington.


No - I mean they should continue playing preseason games down there as they have so far because It helps build football support in that region and also gives the phoenix more national fans which is a good thing for the club. The more supporters, the stronger the club.

I don't want any home games played down there or anything like that - the ROF is definitely home of the Phoenix, but I think the more off season games the team can play around the country, the more support and interest the club can attract.


I'm totally fine with some off-season games being played around the country
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The more marketing the club can do the better IMO. we need to make ourselves known.
And the easy solution would be playing more games.


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Ah. My apologies PWF, I've no problem with the pre-season stuff.
 
As a matter of fact, I've been campaigning for a Nix pre-season game in Pukekohe for quite some time.
Jag2009-01-27 11:15:02

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
Ah. My apologies PWF, I've no problem with the pre-season stuff.
 
As a matter of fact, I've been campaigning for a Nix pre-season game in Pukekohe for quite some time.


haha and yeah rumours are spreading about a game in Eketahuna too


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yomcat wrote:
http://www.itsyourmembership.co.nz/pricing-packages

$210 up. For crappy seats and no AB games.
 
Thanks Yomcat. I think the WRFU have taken notice of the dropping attendences. When the stadium first openned there was a massive waiting list for season tickets  for rugby games there. Now there isn't. We should learn from their experience and our season attendence drop this last season.
 
As i said, I am ok with my ST going up to $250 but then I will be trying to attend every game.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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wingback4eva wrote:
Whitby boy wrote:
and we will play 1 home game in Christchurh. I wouldn't mind 1 home game out of 13 away from Wellington - I think you would get a great crowd in ChCh for a one-off game and the extra revenue would be useful in what I suspect will be a financially challenging year. 
 
I don't really want to start this argument again, but that would piss me off.
 
Absolutely. Keep the Wellington in the Nix and the Nix in Wellington. All home games in either the Pre-Season Cup, Regular Season or Playoffs should be played in Wellington.
 
Only pre-season friendlies can be permitted to go on the road.
 
I can't believe someone is raising it again this season. Did we learn nothing from last year's fuss?
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Torne wrote:
There is a big football following down in christchurch so i beleive that a 2nd A-League team would work well down there
 
Before the Bin Hammam fuss, I would have agreed with you. Now I think it will be a very long time before NZ can consider a second A-League team a possibility.
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Lonegunmen wrote:
yomcat wrote:
http://www.itsyourmembership.co.nz/pricing-packages

$210 up. For crappy seats and no AB games.
 
Thanks Yomcat. I think the WRFU have taken notice of the dropping attendences. When the stadium first openned there was a massive waiting list for season tickets  for rugby games there. Now there isn't. We should learn from their experience and our season attendence drop this last season.
 
As i said, I am ok with my ST going up to $250 but then I will be trying to attend every game.
 
$414 for a Silver covered seat ($288 uncovered) for 12 or 13 games compared to say $250 for 13 Nix games - I think $250 is very reasonable and realistic in today's environment.
 
As an aside it wouldn't surprise me if rugby crowds are even worse this year than last year - I suspect, by comparison, the Nix average of 7,200 (I think that's the number Tony mentioned on the radio interview) won't look too bad.
 
Whitby boy2009-01-27 20:16:18
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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SiNZ wrote:
wingback4eva wrote:
Whitby boy wrote:
and we will play 1 home game in Christchurh. I wouldn't mind 1 home game out of 13 away from Wellington - I think you would get a great crowd in ChCh for a one-off game and the extra revenue would be useful in what I suspect will be a financially challenging year. 
 
I don't really want to start this argument again, but that would piss me off.
 
Absolutely. Keep the Wellington in the Nix and the Nix in Wellington. All home games in either the Pre-Season Cup, Regular Season or Playoffs should be played in Wellington.
 
Only pre-season friendlies can be permitted to go on the road.
 
I can't believe someone is raising it again this season. Did we learn nothing from last year's fuss?
 
I'm not an advocate of playing regular season games away - far from it, I believe passionately that league games should be played at the RoF. Happy however for pre-season friendly and pre-season cup games to be played away.
 
However - personally, given the tough times, I would have no issue sacrificing a home game if it meant an extra $100k for the club (a big one-off crowd in ChCh) and that was the club's decision. 
 
Maybe the compromise is a pre-season cup game in ChCh - would still get a bigger crowd than a friendly - because the game matters, albeit much less than a league game, and would be against another A-league side - not a local invitation side. That way the club gets extra revenue and we don't loose RoF advantage for a league game.
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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An extra 100K? That assumes Christchurch would get 10,000 more than Wellington would. Is that really likely? 10,000 more?
Edit: And that's without the Phoenix's own travel costs.SiNZ2009-01-27 20:46:45
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