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Tim Brown Supporters Club

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bwtcf wrote:
Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
 
No it isn't

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Sorry, 5 minutes is up. I can't argue anymore.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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Tegal wrote:
I sense a banstick being wielded
 
If you banstick nothing happens, you might as well not bother.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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hahahaha.
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Jag wrote:
bwtcf wrote:
Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
 
No it isn't
 
Yes it is
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Jag wrote:
bwtcf wrote:
Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
 
No it isn't
 
Yes it is!

I'm slightly disappointed!

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Ooo iii wrote:
NewCastleGuy wrote:
He cant tackle, or when he does its a stupid yellow card. like fatboynotsoslim said. it took him 50 minutes before he did anything. if he was good he would be controlling the midfield and dominating the space around him. Hes not doing so Lia has to do his work for him.


Totally agree. Thing is with Brown as soon as he passes the ball he disappears. I think I've ever only once seen him get a ball back after giving it, and he only ever gives 5 yard passes so it's not hard to get it back. It frustrates the fu*k out of me when he doesn't show for the ball but stands and watches and waits for someone else to give an option. Any player that passes the ball and then heads straight for the box is always going to give himself a chance to score.
 
No it doesn't.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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capes wrote:
Jag wrote:
bwtcf wrote:
Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
 
No it isn't
 
Yes it is!
I said it first!
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Kudos. Kudos. Kudos.

Kudos all round.

Well played Gentlemen.
 
I think we've made our point.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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sthn.jeff wrote:
capes wrote:
Jag wrote:
bwtcf wrote:
Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
 
No it isn't
 
Yes it is!
I said it first!
No you didn't.

I'm slightly disappointed!

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bwtcf wrote:
Sorry, 5 minutes is up. I can't argue anymore.
 
That was never 5 minutes

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I WISH TO MAKE A COMPLAINT!
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Junior82 wrote:
Ooo iii wrote:
NewCastleGuy wrote:
He cant tackle, or when he does its a stupid yellow card. like fatboynotsoslim said. it took him 50 minutes before he did anything. if he was good he would be controlling the midfield and dominating the space around him. Hes not doing so Lia has to do his work for him.
Totally agree. Thing is with Brown as soon as he passes the ball he disappears. I think I've ever only once seen him get a ball back after giving it, and he only ever gives 5 yard passes so it's not hard to get it back. It frustrates the fu*k out of me when he doesn't show for the ball but stands and watches and waits for someone else to give an option. Any player that passes the ball and then heads straight for the box is always going to give himself a chance to score.


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No it doesn't.

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brilliant, someone who agrees with me
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I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
 
If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
bwtcf2012-01-19 12:58:31

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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NewCastleGuy wrote:
Junior82 wrote:
Ooo iii wrote:
NewCastleGuy wrote:
He cant tackle, or when he does its a stupid yellow card. like fatboynotsoslim said. it took him 50 minutes before he did anything. if he was good he would be controlling the midfield and dominating the space around him. Hes not doing so Lia has to do his work for him.
Totally agree. Thing is with Brown as soon as he passes the ball he disappears. I think I've ever only once seen him get a ball back after giving it, and he only ever gives 5 yard passes so it's not hard to get it back. It frustrates the fu*k out of me when he doesn't show for the ball but stands and watches and waits for someone else to give an option. Any player that passes the ball and then heads straight for the box is always going to give himself a chance to score.


 

No it doesn't.

 

 


brilliant, someone who agrees with me
 
 
No he doesn't
 
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Junior82 wrote:
I WISH TO MAKE A COMPLAINT!
 
 
 
This Parrot I bought this morning.......
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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
to be honest, we dont want you to argue because our statements are right and you have no valid point about why tim brown is good.
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Junior82 wrote:
I WISH TO MAKE A COMPLAINT!
 
 
You wanna complain? Look at these shoes. I've only had them 3 weeks and they're worn right through

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Junior82 wrote:
I WISH TO MAKE A COMPLAINT!
 
 
I wish to complain about this thread what I joined not half an hour ago from this very forum.
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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sthn.jeff wrote:
Junior82 wrote:
I WISH TO MAKE A COMPLAINT!
 
 
 
This Parrot I bought this morning.......
 
Oh no, now we're got a whole cross-sketch thing happening!

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I Bloody Think Lovely.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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NewCastleGuy wrote:
to be honest, we dont want you to argue because our statements are right and you have no valid point about why tim brown is good.
 
 
You have been given plenty of reasons.... you simply choose not to see. You don't like him, thats fair enough, but you have given no real argument to back up your statement that he is no good
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Jag wrote:
sthn.jeff wrote:
Junior82 wrote:
I WISH TO MAKE A COMPLAINT!
 
 
 
This Parrot I bought this morning.......
 
Oh no, now we're got a whole cross-sketch thing happening!
 
Beaautiful Plumage the Norwegian blue
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i could say the same thing about you guys
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sthn.jeff wrote:
NewCastleGuy wrote:
to be honest, we dont want you to argue because our statements are right and you have no valid point about why tim brown is good.
 
 
You have been given plenty of reasons.... you simply choose not to see. You don't like him, thats fair enough, but you have given no real argument to back up your statement that he is no good
  Or that Clapham is better and Brown would struggle in the Premiership. He is just a windup mechant looking for kicks and we are giving it to him.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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NewCastleGuy wrote:
i could say the same thing about you guys
 
Which forum did you get banned from before you came here?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Great kicks though. The Python was fantastic.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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Jeff Vader wrote:
sthn.jeff wrote:
NewCastleGuy wrote:
to be honest, we dont want you to argue because our statements are right and you have no valid point about why tim brown is good.
 
 
You have been given plenty of reasons.... you simply choose not to see. You don't like him, thats fair enough, but you have given no real argument to back up your statement that he is no good
  Or that Clapham is better and Brown would struggle in the Premiership. He is just a windup mechant looking for kicks and we are giving it to him.
 
WE KNOW!!! 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jeff Vader wrote:
Or that Clapham is better and Brown would struggle in the Premiership. He is just a windup mechant looking for kicks and we are giving it to him.
 
Stop being so negative Jeff. Say something, anything, positive for a change.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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about 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We have a similar problem this season as we did last season when we played McAllister and Greenacre at the same time as Brown, now with Sanchez and Greenacre

From Sept 2010
Bullion wrote:
Critical_Lemon wrote:
What do you see as the problems being? A problem I see that would be solved, is that Brown has the trust in Muscat to get forward more when he is playing alongside him.
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Oh, Brown has no problem getting forward currently. I see it that Brown is getting to far forward, and does not offer himself as an option to defense or to Lia. Its fine if we want to play long balls; Greenacre, McAllister and Brown all up front to contest the long ball and the scraps.

Previous posts on this, but in more detail:
Bullion on 442 wrote:
Piney, you have hit the nail on the head when you say:

Jason Pine wrote:

Muscat shielded his back four from opposition forays, while anchoring midfield and allowing Tim Brown (and to a lesser extent Vince Lia) to bomb forward.



Watching the game against CCM on the weekend, Brown is still bombing forward only leaving Lia in the midfield which makes it so hard for us to play out from the back. Hence lots of long balls and CCM able to pressure Lia and our CBs. At times when our defence had possession, Brown, Greenacre and Macallister were all within about 10m of each other.

Maybe Ricki set it up this way, having Brown, Greenie and Macallister up front would allow us to better compete for possession with all the long balls played forward. Seemed a bit Egil Olsen'ish.

We have an interesting game coming up against Brisbane. Greenacre will have a big role to play as we may need to match Brisbane in midfield to compete for possession. It will be also interesting to see how we deal with Brisbane's full backs pushing so far forward with Brisbane's inside forwards looking to cut in occupying our full backs and creating space for overlapping Brisbane fullbacks. Though with the threat of Ifill on the wings the fullbacks may not push as forward as they did against Sydney. Very interesting tactical game, I am just nervous at our ball retention and options in midfield (which we may bypass like against CCM anyway).


[quote=tablemanners]I thought the commentary team flattered us by complimenting our direct approach. While I want results first and foremost the style of football Ricki's team's play is pretty average. What sums it up for me is this (and watch in next time we play).

We when kick off watch Brown take the ball and pass it to Lochhead. Then watch how he does not offer a return option but just turns his back and heads up field to wait for scraps behind long balls pumped to the front men. This sums up Ricki's style - it relies on having a defence and a front line 50 meteres apart with very fit non ball playing midfielders to break up the opposition play.

Brown for me typifies everything that has held NZ football back in the last 20 years. As much as I like the guy (he really is a great spokesman and not an arrogant player at all) I think watching the Nix is not what I want the youngers trying to copy.

What do you guys think??
Bullion2012-01-19 13:10:05
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bwtcf wrote:
[QUOTE=Jeff Vader]Or that Clapham is better and Brown would struggle in the Premiership. He is just a windup mechant looking for kicks and we are giving it to him.
Stop being so negative Jeff. Say something, anything, positive for a change.


I prescribe a dose of Monty python STATTegal2012-01-19 13:11:22

Allegedly

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Anyway, about Timmie.  I have this theory that is all mine, what I wrote...
 
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Nonsense, Mother. People explode every day.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Also the phoenix need to get rid of Paston and Warner because they're mingin. Imray and Basalaj are far better keepers
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Junior82 wrote:
Anyway, about Timmie.  I have this theory that is all mine, what I wrote...
 
 
 
Timmy is thin at one end, much much thicker in the middle and then thin again at the far end...

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Another from the archives, this time from Aug 2010

Bullion wrote:
StopOut wrote:
It's not surprising Brown and Lia were a little bit anonymous since so much of our game plan seemed to involve the defence booting the ball way over the top of them.

Must have been the game plan as I was watching Brown and when Durante and SigmUnd had possession Brown would just jog forward and at times Macallister, Greenacre and Brown where all within about 10metres of each other as a front 3 with long balls played into this area.

Brown hardly ever made moves looking for the ball, again evident when play was switched and Lia would be making the runs to offer himself to wide players and Brown would stay central, even though he would have been a lot closer to the play than Lia.

Must have been how Ricki wanted it. Definitely resulted in long balls as Lia was the only option to pass to in central midfield.
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NewCastleGuy wrote:
Also the phoenix need to get rid of Paston and Warner because they're mingin. Imray and Basalaj are far better keepers
 
You still here? Could you go and talk about football somewhere else, it's Monty Python in here

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Monty who?


Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.


Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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no?
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