Tim Payne

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almost 12 years ago

Yes it is. I completely agree with that sentiment. The otherside of it is that you could potentially turn into a Rory Fallon type player and bounce around everywhere/anywhere getting a gig or come back to a place where you would probably have a solid gig for 10 years.

He's only bouncing around now as he's the wrong side of 30. Don't forget Plymouth paid £300,000 for him, a club record at the time. I don't ever see the Nix splashing that kind of cash. He only left as the club was f***ed fincially by the ownership that came in following a buyout after he arrived.

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almost 12 years ago

If we are not looking at Tim I give up

Normo's coming home

almost 12 years ago

It's one thing looking at him, but if he's not interested (most likely IMO) you'll never know if we even contacted him.

Fruglo on 15.01.2013 wrote:

Fuck this stupid game

almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

Jeff, have you seen Payne play a full season with a professional club? No? Then I put him in the same boat as any other youngster that comes back from England. Most fall by the wayside.

a.haak

almost 12 years ago

valeo wrote:

Jeff, have you seen Payne play a full season with a professional club? No? Then I put him in the same boat as any other youngster that comes back from England. Most fall by the wayside.

I would hope a starting All White wouldn't fall into that category but Chris James springs to mind. He is on his way home for the South Africa game, so hopefully Ernie is back in the country and can have a good look at him.

almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

Pretty much this ^^^ Valeo. The 'others' like Milne, Rowe, and Lindsay have never do been consistent squad members and Payne has had a few starts as well. Different kettle of fish entirely

Grumpy old bastard alert

almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

Luis Garcia wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Right. So by the same token, Tim Payne, a far better footballer than Cameron Lindsay will ever be, will have the same thing happen to him? Unlikely.

Could probably say the same about Alex Gorrin..

Payne has more AW caps.

EDIT: late to the punch.

almost 12 years ago

TopLeft07 wrote:

It's one thing looking at him, but if he's not interested (most likely IMO) you'll never know if we even contacted him.

fair point. I don't think there will be a long list chasing him though. On the other point I saw him at the Olympics and was very impressed. Unflashy but knows where to make a pass

Normo's coming home

almost 12 years ago

james dean wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:

It's one thing looking at him, but if he's not interested (most likely IMO) you'll never know if we even contacted him.

fair point. I don't think there will be a long list chasing him though. On the other point I saw him at the Olympics and was very impressed. Unflashy but knows where to make a pass

Also good against Japan I thought - the kid distributes the ball well.

Would be surprising if he couldn't find a Football League club if they saw some of these videos.

Must recommmend him to Charlton Athletic, the club of my mother's family in England.

They were surprisingly easy to contact a few years ago and I had a scout emailing me asking if i knew of any decent players in NZ.

They were embarrassed at missing out on Ryan Nelsen I think - he trialed at the Valley but they didn't offer him anything, so he went on to Blackburn.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

almost 12 years ago

Offically released http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/retained-list-1555667.aspx

almost 12 years ago

Listen to Wynton's World of Football on Livesport tomorrow between 9 - 10 - Tim recorded an interview with us, according to him he's not heard from anyone at the Phoenix but does have some options.

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almost 12 years ago

PROAK wrote:

Listen to Wynton's World of Football on Livesport tomorrow between 9 - 10 - Tim recorded an interview with us, according to him he's not heard from anyone at the Phoenix but does have some options.

TFC? Zwolle?

almost 12 years ago

Toronto would be good but no immediate offer after trial, Zwolle would be Ole connection which he doesn't have. Closer to reality might be Waitakere, wairarapa or Aussie state leagues. Phoenix already have a few young midfielders - rufer, ridenton, gorrin. Remember he only ever played youth football at Blackburn.

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almost 12 years ago

Though he didn't mention names I got the impression he was referring to the UK.

Peoples Republik of Aucklandia

almost 12 years ago

Hope we can sign him but if not hope he stays in Europe to a league like the Dutch or something a little smaller

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almost 12 years ago

PROAK wrote:

Listen to Wynton's World of Football on Livesport tomorrow between 9 - 10 - Tim recorded an interview with us, according to him he's not heard from anyone at the Phoenix but does have some options.

This is extremely disappointing if there is the actual case (and not calling him a liar)

Come on Phoenix, why are you sitting on your hands? JD was right - if we are not going after a player like this whom is an NZ player, then we might as well throw the towel in. He would be a decent fit in the HAL having seen him play internationally and fit into a midfield that would create a lot of competition and (something we have not had before) depth.

Grumpy old bastard alert

almost 12 years ago

james dean wrote:

If we are not looking at Tim I give up

Time to give up then :(

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almost 12 years ago

Not talking to someone if different to not looking at them.

almost 12 years ago

The stuff article said the club are "not interested" in Payne. Not really clear how far their consideration of him got.

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

I know we have already signed Alex but could we still be interested despite him having no contact? Ernie is on holiday? Just curious, do we assume that we are in negotiations with all of our targets? Stuff said it is understood the club is not intersted...do we trust stuff?

almost 12 years ago

Payne will land on his feet somewhere…if he's good enough. Not his fault English youth system is a dead end. No doubt Howieson will go the same way eventually.

almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

2ndBest wrote:

Not talking to someone if different to not looking at them.

Hold on there, I don't want JD wriggling out of his promise to give up on a semantic technicality.

I would argue that not talking is not looking therefore JD should give up :)

almost 12 years ago

james dean wrote:

If we are not looking at Tim I give up

Why?

Founder

almost 12 years ago

Tyler wrote:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10057663/Phoenix-not-interested-in-sidelined-Tim-Payne

This Sam Worthington is infuriating and not a very good journalist - how do we know whether he's not just making stuff up when there are no direct quotes or sources cited? Using weasley terms like "it is understood" is crap.

Most of the article Worthington writes as if he's quoting Merrick - but he's not - so where does he get all these opinions on Payne and why the Phoenix don't want to sign him? Also opinions on Smeltz etc. but no sources mentioned.

"While Payne is a promising young player, Phoenix coach Ernie Merrick is seeking a No 10 who is ready to step in immediately and fill the considerable boots of the talented but unpopular Carlos Hernandez.

...But in Matthew Ridenton, Tyler Boyd and Alex Rufer, Merrick feels he already has enough young Kiwi talent in midfield and winger roles...

....

The Phoenix also weren't interested in All Whites striker Shane Smeltz, who signed with Sydney FC yesterday....

...Given the club's injury-riddled 2013-14 season, they were not willing to take a risk on Smeltz, 32, whose time at Perth Glory was blighted by a series of injuries."

Says who? A source at the club, Merrick, a bloke down the pub, Worthington's imagination?

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

almost 12 years ago

Was not the "Phoenix not interest in Payne" a quote from this forum. Must be a true Faxt if taken from here. Just the same as many in the DoomPost.

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almost 12 years ago

"The Phoenix also weren't interested in signing Shane Smeltz"

I'm going to guess he didn't actually ask anybody. He just saw him sign for Sydney and assumed that meant we weren't interested.

Allegedly

almost 12 years ago

Tegal wrote:

"The Phoenix also weren't interested in signing Shane Smeltz"

I'm going to guess he didn't actually ask anybody. He just saw him sign for Sydney and assumed that meant we weren't interested.

Or he just does not want to live in Wellington.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

almost 12 years ago

Tim was one of 16 players released by Blackburn at the end of the season - the knee-jerk decisions of poultry magnates shouldn't tarnish his reputation.....I am surprised Toronto didn't work out but perhaps the MLS still offers some hope.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27443271

almost 12 years ago

http://www.radiolivesport.co.nz/Wynton-World-Of-FootballTim-Payne/tabid/454/articleID/18487/Default.aspx

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almost 12 years ago

Strange decision for the Nix not to pick up Tim Payne.

He would be a natural fit, and probably pretty cheap.

Probably just as good as Lia or Gorrin, and he will still improve with regular game time.

almost 12 years ago

Bevan wrote:

Probably just as good as Lia or Gorrin, and he will still improve with regular game time.

Probably?... based on?

E + R + O

almost 12 years ago

Bevan wrote:

Strange decision for the Nix not to pick up Tim Payne.

He would be a natural fit, and probably pretty cheap.

Probably just as good as Lia or Gorrin, and he will still improve with regular game time.

How much better than Ridenton, Rufer?

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over 11 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Quick question, where is Payne atm?

Still looks like he is in Auckland (his tweets say he is at least). With teams going back for pre-season now, you would have thought he would have headed back for trials or to take up any offer he had.

over 11 years ago

Gonna play ASB prob

over 11 years ago

I hope not... if a young 21yr old full NZ international (and starter) can't get a gig or atleast a trial then there is a serious problem.

Either we have seriously over estimated his ability, or ... actually thats the only answer I actually have.

over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

I've seen enough from the various All Whites games to say that I'd definitely want him at the 'Nix. The problem though is can he play the style Ernie wants? He doesn't have Riera's skill set, (at least I don't think he does?) but I'd be happy with him as an understudy to Gorrin and a back up for DM in a different style. He'd be stronger than Ridenton.

See Rufer, Hicks and Ridenton as understudys to WeeMac. Though I guess I've seen more of Ridenton and Hicks than Payne.

The Phoenix gets its best results with a player named Tim in the mids.

Can he get into the MLS?

over 11 years ago

Its kinda odd this. He trialled for Toronto and I guess that smells of Nellie hooking a brother up but is he really another Cameron Lyndsay?

Grumpy old bastard alert

over 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Its kinda odd this. He trialled for Toronto and I guess that smells of Nellie hooking a brother up but is he really another Cameron Lyndsay?

He's had more experience than Lyndsay. A more established player IMO. Suprised he's out of contract. I think he would suit a Nelsen team better than a Merrick one- though he might add more variation to his game with Merrick.

over 11 years ago

I don't think he is either but he is still in NZ at a time where you would think he would be pushing hard to find a club somewhere and be in a part of the world where he can trial. Its kinda hard to do that when you are in currently in NZ (although in a e-age, there is email etc)

Grumpy old bastard alert

over 11 years ago

He certainly looks alot better than lindsay but his recent AW performances showed a huge drop in class from him

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