Wellington Phoenix Men

vs Heart (Let Your Angst Out Here)

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't think we're playing badly, but against this Heart side we really should be up. Half of the last 45 minutes spent watching Melbourne pass back to their keeper - they've got no idea. With a bit more ball we should create the chances need to score. Any less than three points would be disappointing.

Oh, and Peter Green has been arse.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Great away support tho,  hope the team lift it for them
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tegal wrote:
auskiwi wrote:
alt+6+4 wrote:
We're a little gunshy at the moment. We have had some chances to score, but haven't been able to take advantage. Heart showing that they aren't anything spectacular just yet. Surely not another 0-0

Could quite see this being a 0-0.


Result. Another road point.
Only one point against these bozos would be a failure.
Theyre quite a good side on paper.
 
I wouldve preferred to play them in the opening rounds when they hadnt played as a team before and were sh*te.
 
Theyre still not flash but theyve improved slightly since round 1.
They are sh*te.
Ok for an away draw against a good side but we really should be taking all the points here.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
2 up front please (yes, i know we are away)
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Scottishbhoy wrote:
wolfman wrote:
mjp2 wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
mjp2 wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
How can he be offside when it came off the heart player?

cannot gain advantage from being in an offside position when the ball is played by one of your own team
 

it doesn't matter if it touches an opposition player on the way thru, if you are in an offside position when your player plays it and gain advantage from that
Big difference between deflection and played at.That was not offside and obviously the lino thought it got passed to Ward by a Phoenix player, when it wasn't the case.

go read the fifa rule book
it is solely

 a) are you in an offside position when your team mate plays it and

b) did you gain advantage

he was and he did

end of

deflection or played at has nothing to do with it

 

 

 

A) He wasn't offside when the ball was played, because he was on the ball.
f


Can't be offside when the ball comes off an opposition player.
 
You can if you were already offside when your player made the original pass. This is mjp2's point. What he's missing is that the same Nix player passed and received the ball. Therefore he was not offside when the original pass was made.


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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Good to hear the fever still in good voice
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
wolfman wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
wolfman wrote:
mjp2 wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
mjp2 wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
How can he be offside when it came off the heart player?

cannot gain advantage from being in an offside position when the ball is played by one of your own team
 

it doesn't matter if it touches an opposition player on the way thru, if you are in an offside position when your player plays it and gain advantage from that
Big difference between deflection and played at.That was not offside and obviously the lino thought it got passed to Ward by a Phoenix player, when it wasn't the case.

go read the fifa rule book
it is solely

 a) are you in an offside position when your team mate plays it and

b) did you gain advantage

he was and he did

end of

deflection or played at has nothing to do with it

 

 

 

A) He wasn't offside when the ball was played, because he was on the ball.
f


Can't be offside when the ball comes off an opposition player.
 
You can if you were already offside when your player made the original pass. This is mjp2's point. What he's missing is that the same Nix player passed and received the ball. Therefore he was not offside when the original pass was made.
lol - that would be correct, i did miss that
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Here is a stream in case iraqgoals is down for anyone else

http://www.justin.tv/nelliek9#/w/399695280
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Falling over the ball..rubbish.  Bertos off Daniel on plse

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Dammit
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
f#&k  just what we didnt need
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sh*t. They have one good chance and bam. Come on Nix!
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
too slow siggy
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
how the f**k did we concede to this lot? all they've done is play f**king back passes the whole game
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
mjp2 wrote:

go read the fifa rule book
it is solely
 a) are you in an offside position when your team mate plays it and
b) did you gain advantage
he was and he did
end of
deflection or played at has nothing to do with it


You're a bit of a f**king idiot aren't you. I've got it right here and it still says you are wrong.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_11_offside_en_47383.pdf

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
dont we want to win games away.  You have to wonder dont you
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Still plenty of time 1-3 to us !

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hopefully conceding springs us into life..
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If we cant beat teams like this how do we expect to make it to the final series
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Bring on Coveny
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hearfield greenie eh. No faith in DMac haha


  raynes2010-09-19 18:19:22
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
oh you have got to be joking ricki
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Troy on for Greenie.

Wonder where Troy will play
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Scottishbhoy wrote:
wolfman wrote:
mjp2 wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
mjp2 wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
How can he be offside when it came off the heart player?

cannot gain advantage from being in an offside position when the ball is played by one of your own team
 

it doesn't matter if it touches an opposition player on the way thru, if you are in an offside position when your player plays it and gain advantage from that
Big difference between deflection and played at.That was not offside and obviously the lino thought it got passed to Ward by a Phoenix player, when it wasn't the case.

go read the fifa rule book
it is solely

 a) are you in an offside position when your team mate plays it and

b) did you gain advantage

he was and he did

end of

deflection or played at has nothing to do with it

 

 

 

A) He wasn't offside when he played the ball, because was on the ball.

 

End of


Can't be offside when the ball comes off an opposition player.
You actually can be if you were in an offside position when the ball was played by your player,and gain an advantage i.e ball played through deflects off opposition player and still goes to you,you would be offside.
 
so mjp2 is right,but it clearly doesnt apply in this instance. I suspect he hasnt seen the incident...

Allegedly

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I've been wanting Ifill up front for awhile.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
goal down...we got to the infamous 4-6-0
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Um, weird sub, to say the very least.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think I've found a team to hate more than Sydney.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bring on someone who can score, only striker that has looked liked scoring is away with the olyroos
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
charliec wrote:
If we cant beat teams like this how do we expect to make it to the final series

Jees they haven't exactly beaten us yet still 35 plus mins left !

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bring on big mac
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
This could be embarrassing,  ill be embarrassed for the team if we dont win,  a draw would be poor a loss would be humiliating
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
They're getting joy getting around us
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Sigmund doesn't stay with aloisi literally minutes after he scored in the same situation... it's ridiculous
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ifill has performed much better when he's up front, he's a finisher. And he's looked average on the ball creating chances himself.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kiwi Jambo wrote:
charliec wrote:
If we cant beat teams like this how do we expect to make it to the final series

Jees they haven't exactly beaten us yet still 35 plus mins left !

Its the way we are playing, sh*te
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Where the f**k is the midfield?

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
charliec wrote:
bring on someone who can score, only striker that has looked liked scoring is away with the olyroos
 
Um..we dont have strikers...midfielders and people  masquerading as strikers

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Anyone overly inspired with that substitution ?

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Heart miss a sitter
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