Wellington Phoenix Men

vs Heart (Let Your Angst Out Here)

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
disappointing lack lustre effort....strange selections....complete lack of energy....great opportunity to entrench themselves in the top 2 or 3 squandered...appears to be no pace or passion just a bunch of journeymen going through the motions
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
mjp2 wrote:
great game wednesday
and then this??!!

You are right,  they played well enough to win on Wednesday,  2 points lost that day and another 3 lost today
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
charliec wrote:
wolfman wrote:
If we can't win this game away, I can't see where we're going to win one.

I agree, shocking, embarrasing result.  Fancy losing to those muppets
 
Can you not see that they are quite a good team? Losing to Melbourne Heart 2-1 away is hardly embarrasing.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ricki must f**king shred these guys after the game. Worst Nix performance in a long time. 80 mins of utter tripe.
Maybe they guys should shred Ricki.
They were a rabble with no direction
Sorry but that was crap, no change in the second hare, just more crap
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight
 
Bertos was a real leader in our fightback.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Colvinator wrote:
charliec wrote:
wolfman wrote:
If we can't win this game away, I can't see where we're going to win one.

I agree, shocking, embarrasing result.  Fancy losing to those muppets
 
Can you not see that they are quite a good team? Losing to Melbourne Heart 2-1 away is hardly embarrasing.
Yes it is.
Heart were crap.
Raise your standards and expectations for the Nix
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
charliec wrote:
Kiwi Jambo wrote:
charliec wrote:
Kiwi Jambo wrote:
C'mon four min we can still take a point!!


f&*k the point,  we dont deserve it.  We have given away 5 points this week.  The team should be embarrassed,  I am for them

So you wouldn't take a point ?
weird!


Stupid comment,,  id take it, but we dont deserve it and as the result says didnt get it.  Poor week,  terrible result and poor team

yeah it was a stupid comment and I'm not really sure why you made it ?
Anyway its all academic now were were truly humped by the new kids on the block ,back to the drawing board !!

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Colvinator wrote:
charliec wrote:
wolfman wrote:
If we can't win this game away, I can't see where we're going to win one.

I agree, shocking, embarrasing result.  Fancy losing to those muppets
 
Can you not see that they are quite a good team? Losing to Melbourne Heart 2-1 away is hardly embarrasing.

We should be getting the results tho,  I feel like we have thrown away 5 points this week,  we threw the points away (at home) to Gold Coast,  our boys need to wake up before the game
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight


in the last 10mins..... he must have been havin a toss over miss Lolhead in the other 80...
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i think we can see why melb let ward go
some fantastic stuff, but he turns the ball over a fair bit, at least twice tonight in very dangerous situations and cost a goal
 
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I sick of this 1 up front sht espically with ifill. we go one goal down so riki takes greenace off and puts another midfielder on and then chucks ifill up front. Great tactics there.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight
 
Not sure what game you were watching but he was slow, his crosses were poor and he made the wrong choices again and again when trying to beat players, he cut outside when he should have cut inside and vice versa.
 
He has not played well since the Australia game, he needs a break to get his head right.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
whooooooo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight


in the last 10mins..... he must have been havin a toss over miss Lolhead in the other 80...



no idea what you are on about so f**k off

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kiwi Jambo wrote:
charliec wrote:
Kiwi Jambo wrote:
charliec wrote:
Kiwi Jambo wrote:
C'mon four min we can still take a point!!


f&*k the point,  we dont deserve it.  We have given away 5 points this week.  The team should be embarrassed,  I am for them

So you wouldn't take a point ?
weird!


Stupid comment,,  id take it, but we dont deserve it and as the result says didnt get it.  Poor week,  terrible result and poor team

yeah it was a stupid comment and I'm not really sure why you made it ?
Anyway its all academic now were were truly humped by the new kids on the block ,back to the drawing board !!

I actually meant your comment was stupid - not mine.
Teams should play to draw
we dont and didnt deserve a point,  it wasnt what we wanted or needed,  we needed 3 points,  so I stand by my original comment,  f&*k the point,  we couldnt even get that
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
auskiwi wrote:
Colvinator wrote:
charliec wrote:
wolfman wrote:
If we can't win this game away, I can't see where we're going to win one.

I agree, shocking, embarrasing result.  Fancy losing to those muppets
 
Can you not see that they are quite a good team? Losing to Melbourne Heart 2-1 away is hardly embarrasing.
Yes it is.
Heart were crap.
Raise your standards and expectations for the Nix
 
I thought Phoenix should have got a result, but it's rediculously overboard to call it an embarrasment.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
For the first time in a while, I am just plain angry after the match. That was embarrassing. For the most part of that second half we had no structure, never really looked like scoring and had some very weird tactical changes.

Melbourne Trip = a bit of a disaster.

A point against Victory when we should have had 3 and 0 points against a pretty sh*t Heart side when at the very very least we should have had 1. Poor poor stuff.

However, we were good last two games and hopefully we can get back to that against Fury on Friday.

Who decided we would follow up our third game in 8 days on a Sunday and then play Fury on a Friday. A bit stupid. We should be playing the Sunday game next week.

EDIT: Seeing sense, it was really only 30 mins of the second half that we were embarrassing. We weren't too bad in the first spell.simon_hampton2010-09-19 19:07:05
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:
whooooooo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight


in the last 10mins..... he must have been havin a toss over miss Lolhead in the other 80...



no idea what you are on about so f**k off
Children children play nice !

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The team should be embarrased by the way they played
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
disappointing to see some yellow fever clapping and cheering the nix after that performance.

If I was there, I would give them all sorts of hand gestures with a big "f**k off" to accompany it, followed by the throwing of my nix shirt in their faces.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kiwi Jambo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
whooooooo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight


in the last 10mins..... he must have been havin a toss over miss Lolhead in the other 80...



no idea what you are on about so f**k off
Children children play nice !



Yeah good point, sorry for swearing

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We looked like a team that arrogantly thought we only had to turn up and the 3 points were ours.
 
That was one of our worst ever displays - a bloody disgrace.
 
Give yourselves a collective upper cut.
 
Season 4 - first four games on the road - a grand total of 1 point.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:
Kiwi Jambo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
whooooooo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight


in the last 10mins..... he must have been havin a toss over miss Lolhead in the other 80...



no idea what you are on about so f**k off
Children children play nice !



Yeah good point, sorry for swearing


and sorry whoooooo

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
potentially after 7 games we could only be ahead of Sydney
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:
whooooooo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight


in the last 10mins..... he must have been havin a toss over miss Lolhead in the other 80...



no idea what you are on about so f**k off



Do a fat one, mate.

I was only replying to you comment about Bertos being good tonight, I replied saying he was only good in the last 10mins then you should understand the rest.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Colvinator wrote:
charliec wrote:
wolfman wrote:
If we can't win this game away, I can't see where we're going to win one.

I agree, shocking, embarrasing result.  Fancy losing to those muppets
 
Can you not see that they are quite a good team? Losing to Melbourne Heart 2-1 away is hardly embarrasing.
I haven't seen enough of the Heart to make a judgement to be fair.
 
However they were dire in the first half. Unfortunately, so were we. in the second, Heart clearly lifted, while the Nix stayed flat (until it was too late). Based on the first half Heart, the Nix playing well should beat Heart comfortably, and based on the second, a win wouldn't be out of the question either.
 
On the day, Heart were the better team, and deserved the win. However, I agree with tthe sentiment that we have played two ordinary looking teams in Melbourne, and had we played well, should have picked up 4-6 points from this trip.


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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
charliec wrote:
The team should be embarrased by the way they played

I'm sure they are ,lets look to the future though eh!
They took their chances ,we didn't life goes on I still think we will be in the mix at the business end of the season and we will pump them at the stadium next time round!!
Kiwi Jambo2010-09-19 19:09:20

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Thats got to be one of the worst performance's I have seen, such a difference from Wednesday.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We were static in attack no one was moving off the ball or even looked like they wanted it. Prime example near the end when Daniel had a throw in, the only players anywhere near him were Heart players.
 
I hope they look real hard at themselves after this and step up, the game plan is not working so needs to be changed and the payers need to take responsibility as does the coaching staff.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'd say in the final 15minutes Bertos was very good. Just again, crosses in to the box let us down.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lochead was rubbish again and shouldn't be in the team at the moment.  Time to try someone else in his position.  Bertos doesn't seem to have the confidence to beat his man and get to the line any more so disappears up his own arse more often than not.
 
If we were ever going to beat Victory away it was last Wednesday when they were missing several players and there for the taking.  At least we played positively.  On paper, Heart are a decent side but again were there for the taking in my view.  Too often we go away and don't seen willing or able to really attack teams, or wait until the game is lost before we do it. 
 
Their decision making was poor, final balls usually the wrong ones and we also had to see Daniel coming on with ten to go.  Another waste of space.  Sorry for the negativity but I'm angry right now. 
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Teza wrote:
We were static in attack no one was moving off the ball or even looked like they wanted it. Prime example near the end when Daniel had a throw in, the only players anywhere near him were Heart players.
 
I hope they look real hard at themselves after this and step up, the game plan is not working so needs to be changed and the payers need to take responsibility as does the coaching staff.
 
We  were reasonably static most of the game,  and it got horrendous near the end - they seemed to be knackered. Was frustrating.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We never play well when we wear Stripeys away.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ForteanTimes wrote:


and sorry whoooooo


yea, all good and I'm sorry for the do a fat one comment.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
whooooooo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
whooooooo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight


in the last 10mins..... he must have been havin a toss over miss Lolhead in the other 80...



no idea what you are on about so f**k off



Do a fat one, mate.

I was only replying to you comment about Bertos being good tonight, I replied saying he was only good in the last 10mins then you should understand the rest.



Yes and I've apologized.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Our best is yet to come. We are yet to settle on a line-up. Having a lot of depth in certain positions don't bode well there. Our lack of depth in others hurt.

Just need to get back on track against NQF on Friday.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It should be remembered that in the first half we were "playing all the football" (as the fans were singing appropriately).
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
whooooooo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
whooooooo wrote:
ForteanTimes wrote:
Teza wrote:

Thats what happens when your tactics are wrong and your best players don't perform. Bertos has been poor all season and does not deserve a starting spot, mind you Ifil isn't far behind him either.

Based on what I have seen so far this season (and I hope i'm wrong) I cannot see us going anywhere near winning the league.
 


disagree Bertos was one of the better players tonight


in the last 10mins..... he must have been havin a toss over miss Lolhead in the other 80...



no idea what you are on about so f**k off



Do a fat one, mate.

I was only replying to you comment about Bertos being good tonight, I replied saying he was only good in the last 10mins then you should understand the rest.



Real Mature whooo.
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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jose's Dog wrote:
Lochead was rubbish again and shouldn't be in the team at the moment.  Time to try someone else in his position.  Bertos doesn't seem to have the confidence to beat his man and get to the line any more so disappears up his own arse more often than not.
 
If we were ever going to beat Victory away it was last Wednesday when they were missing several players and there for the taking.  At least we played positively.  On paper, Heart are a decent side but again were there for the taking in my view.  Too often we go away and don't seen willing or able to really attack teams, or wait until the game is lost before we do it. 
 
Their decision making was poor, final balls usually the wrong ones and we also had to see Daniel coming on with ten to go.  Another waste of space.  Sorry for the negativity but I'm angry right now. 


At least its constructive negativity ,which is a lot better than the petty bitchy whining  negativity from many here !

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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