At the very least they should be apologising to the fans and offering to refund tickets for anyone in the away section out of the players team funds.
Eh? Football's a game that can be won, drawn or lost. You can't expect to only pay when you win.
At the very least they should be apologising to the fans and offering to refund tickets for anyone in the away section out of the players team funds.
Eh? Football's a game that can be won, drawn or lost. You can't expect to only pay when you win.
GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS
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Even the Fox Sports 'experts' agreed that it was NOT a penalty, and I agree.
Bozza showed his typical Sydney bias and said it was.
Anyone who thinks that is a penalty is either biased , like Bosnich, or knows nothing about football.
Isn't Bozza a Nazi druggy?
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To be fair, there were some nice goals and good football if you are looking at it from a purists point of view. Its just we tend to look at it from a Phoenix point of view.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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To be fair, there were some nice goals and good football if you are looking at it from a purists point of view. Its just we tend to look at it from a Phoenix point of view.
If you looked at it from a purist's point of view, while admiring the quality of ADP, you'd also be gasping in horror at the ineptitude of our defending.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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They were fantastic finishes, but we have him the time and space to be able to finish.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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this ^, we were defensively naive to think thew ADP would not take full toll on poor defending.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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They were fantastic finishes, but we have him the time and space to be able to finish.
I presume you meant 'gave him time and space'. Which goal was that. His turn on Ben-he had no space. Bertos- he created his own space and against Dura he was simply too good and you can see that in Dura's give up attitude just as ADP went to strike the ball.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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They were fantastic finishes, but we have him the time and space to be able to finish.
I presume you meant 'gave him time and space'. Which goal was that. His turn on Ben-he had no space. Bertos- he created his own space and against Dura he was simply too good and you can see that in Dura's give up attitude just as ADP went to strike the ball.
He certainly dicked Dura for his last, this will happen as he's class but when he got the ball for his first (may have been third, f**ked if I'm watching again!) he was all alone on the edge of the area so time to start moving. Was a deflection/scramble before it got to him but lack of awareness and it was still early in the game.
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Even the penalty! Too much time and space!
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
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Even the penalty! Too much time and space!
Haha not a single defender in the box! A disgrace !
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Even the penalty! Too much time and space!
LOL
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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Even the penalty! Too much time and space!
This. There wasn't a nix player within 10 yards of him. Unacceptable.
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Playing distance is not well defined but would be interpreted to be that the ball must be within the ability of the player to reach out and touch it with any part of his body that can legally play the ball.
Not necessarily, as players are allowed to protect possession of the ball if it's going out and can't reach it in the way you describe.
But that's all moot as the situation to me appears as incidental contact until Durante's arm intervenes.
The instructions explicitly say that "All players have a right to their position on the field of play, being in the way of an opponent is not the same as moving into the way of an opponent (i.e. it's not obstruction)". Culina was attacking the ball Durante headed away, and just happened to be in his way when the latter tried to go around him. Quite clearly, in reference with the LotG, Culina did nothing wrong. It was Durante who committed the foul by holding Culina's arm and moving him out of the way with his arm, which constitutes a push.
Admittedly, the contact wasn't heavy and Culina made the most of it, but it's still a foul under the LotG.
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Interesting point. But then any time a player clatters into another late, wouldn't be an offence as long as they're going for the ball? I say clatter to take it to an extreme, but there essentially isn't really a difference.
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Interesting point. But then any time a player clatters into another late, wouldn't be an offence as long as they're going for the ball? I say clatter to take it to an extreme, but there essentially isn't really a difference.
If I understand what you mean correctly, that would fall into category of 'charging the opponent' which is a foul under the LotG.
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Seemed to me like it was two players going for the ball who then collided. Looking at the replay at the time, it looked like both of them had too much momentum to change direction or avoid the collision. I just couldn't see a foul at all. The "push" was nothing, both players would have been knocked on their arses anyway
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culina fouled durante just as much as durante fouled culina.
which was obviously little to no foul.
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When I heard the whistle I thought, yeh well done ref, Culina was obstructing Dura, but I didn't think you'd give it! Nek Minit
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
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Interesting point. But then any time a player clatters into another late, wouldn't be an offence as long as they're going for the ball? I say clatter to take it to an extreme, but there essentially isn't really a difference.
If I understand what you mean correctly, that would fall into category of 'charging the opponent' which is a foul under the LotG.
TBH I thought it was this, just a foul. Paston to restart, myself & the SFC supporters around me agree/d.
Culina's contact on Durante comes first doesn't it?
"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert
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Like I said, to me the initial contact between the two is incidental in the course of challenging for the ball.
But I'm over this now.
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Sunday Shootout just showed footage of Ricki chipping a drink bottle into the wall in the dressing room in frustration during halftime. He cares.
Audio had "have you lost your $@#$%%^ bottle u lot?...well here it is."
Hopefully it wasn't a bottle left there by the RBB.....
Re the Sunday Shootout footage though, it did appear (to me at least) as if Ricki notices he's being filmed, looking directly into the camera...THEN kicks the bottle. Felt like it was more for those watching.
"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert
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At the very least they should be apologising to the fans and offering to refund tickets for anyone in the away section out of the players team funds.
Eh? Football's a game that can be won, drawn or lost. You can't expect to only pay when you win.
It would be a PR exercise
Normo's coming home
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At the very least they should be apologising to the fans and offering to refund tickets for anyone in the away section out of the players team funds.
Eh? Football's a game that can be won, drawn or lost. You can't expect to only pay when you win.
Wigan - there was talk of refunding the travelling fans (not sure if it was tickets and/or travel expenses) when they got trounced 9-1 at White Hart Lane - three seasons ago.
Edit: Players refunding the ticketshere
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
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At the very least they should be apologising to the fans and offering to refund tickets for anyone in the away section out of the players team funds.
Eh? Football's a game that can be won, drawn or lost. You can't expect to only pay when you win.
It would be a PR exercise
Don't think PR is our strong point, JD
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Playing distance is not well defined but would be interpreted to be that the ball must be within the ability of the player to reach out and touch it with any part of his body that can legally play the ball.
Not necessarily, as players are allowed to protect possession of the ball if it's going out and can't reach it in the way you describe.
But that's all moot as the situation to me appears as incidental contact until Durante's arm intervenes.
The instructions explicitly say that "All players have a right to their position on the field of play, being in the way of an opponent is not the same as moving into the way of an opponent (i.e. it's not obstruction)". Culina was attacking the ball Durante headed away, and just happened to be in his way when the latter tried to go around him. Quite clearly, in reference with the LotG, Culina did nothing wrong. It was Durante who committed the foul by holding Culina's arm and moving him out of the way with his arm, which constitutes a push.
Admittedly, the contact wasn't heavy and Culina made the most of it, but it's still a foul under the LotG.
Sorry El Grap, Culina definitely ran at Durante 0- ie moved into the way of. Durante headed it and then tried to go toward it. Culina made no attempt to attack the ball and instead ran at Durante.
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that's what 95% of those watching the game saw - pity the ref wasn't one of them
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Did you make that stat up, or did you conduct a survey?
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a guesstemated number form the responses on here.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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Playing distance is not well defined but would be interpreted to be that the ball must be within the ability of the player to reach out and touch it with any part of his body that can legally play the ball.
Not necessarily, as players are allowed to protect possession of the ball if it's going out and can't reach it in the way you describe.
But that's all moot as the situation to me appears as incidental contact until Durante's arm intervenes.
The instructions explicitly say that "All players have a right to their position on the field of play, being in the way of an opponent is not the same as moving into the way of an opponent (i.e. it's not obstruction)". Culina was attacking the ball Durante headed away, and just happened to be in his way when the latter tried to go around him. Quite clearly, in reference with the LotG, Culina did nothing wrong. It was Durante who committed the foul by holding Culina's arm and moving him out of the way with his arm, which constitutes a push.
Admittedly, the contact wasn't heavy and Culina made the most of it, but it's still a foul under the LotG.
Sorry El Grap, Culina definitely ran at Durante 0- ie moved into the way of. Durante headed it and then tried to go toward it. Culina made no attempt to attack the ball and instead ran at Durante.
I think possibly Culina was trying to milk a foul from the outset. Don't go for the ball but run into Dura's path.
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It was a bizarre penalty to say the least but largely pointless even debating it now. Had it been 1-0 Sydney I might've been a bit more upset!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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To be fair, there were some nice goals and good football if you are looking at it from a purists point of view. Its just we tend to look at it from a Phoenix point of view.
Probably. Once I thought about it, I'd rather see us have 22 shots on Saturday, than watch the second half from the WSW game again
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At the very least they should be apologising to the fans and offering to refund tickets for anyone in the away section out of the players team funds.
Eh? Football's a game that can be won, drawn or lost. You can't expect to only pay when you win.
It would be a PR exercise
Don't think PR is our strong point, JD
Didn't Wigan do something like that after a 8-0 (I think) debacle a few years back? I know they apologised to travelling fans but I think there was something in it for them. Not a fan of doing that btw
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At the very least they should be apologising to the fans and offering to refund tickets for anyone in the away section out of the players team funds.
Eh? Football's a game that can be won, drawn or lost. You can't expect to only pay when you win.
It would be a PR exercise
I can't see that being positive PR
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lol at complaining about a penalty when your team gets thrashed 7-1.
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it was about the only thing we can complain about in reality, everything else was down to poor play by us not against us.
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lol at complaining about a penalty when your team gets thrashed 7-1.
2-0 and all you need is one goal to be right back in the game, 3-0 and the game is pretty much beyond you. That goal made a huge difference, but you're right, it doesn't explain the other 6 goals.
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The current situation isn't great, but does anyone remember how badly both Sydney (7-2 by the Mariners) and Melbourne (5-0 by the Roar) got thrashed earlier in the season. Both teams turned around some pretty bad form earlier in the season and now seem to be on a roll. Our slump is happening now.
Hopefully that shocker game is the wake-up call required for all concerned, players, coach, management and owners. The situation is being played up as a shock-horror scandal as hard as possible by the media using any angle they can get - real or made-up.
It seems to me that now is a better time than most to be backing our team.
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