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WPM R21 vs Melbourne City | Fri 28th Feb | 7:30pm | RoF / Sky Sport 2

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about 1 year ago
InsulinMachine
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At home against a team that has won 1 game in it's last 5 matches.

What analysis, insights and positives will Chief share in his post match interview today? Plenty, you wait and see...
Those stat's are exactly how teams lose games. It's just not good enough. 
about 1 year ago
Honestly I thought the end result would be worse, not saying we played amazingly but 1-0 is better than what I expected.

On a side note the Highlanders were on at the same time so I had to go home to watch the nix since no bar would air the game while the Landers were playing. Like seriously, I hit 5 bars before giving up
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InsulinMachine
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At home against a team that has won 1 game in it's last 5 matches.

What analysis, insights and positives will Chief share in his post match interview today? Plenty, you wait and see...
What about Piper's header? Beach had to stretch to save that, surely that was a shot on target?
about 1 year ago
That’s preety dire but not counting pipers effort is a bit dire 

Auckland will rise once more

about 1 year ago
Same crap, different opposition
about 1 year ago
AucklandPhoenix
That’s preety dire but not counting pipers effort is a bit dire 
I do remember the MC 'keeper restarting from the top of the box, I think it was after the Piper chance so perhaps an offside somewhere there.
about 1 year ago
Chiefy post game with the tv panel:
- Gutted the way we conceded that goal, it was a mistake that shouldn't happen
- We had opportunities but we didn't capitalise
- Marco 2 weeks away from starting
- Result makes it a lot harder, like a mini grand final
- We're going through a rough phase, more confidence is the problem rather than ability
- Disappointed where we are as the team can show a lot more, but a year from now we might have more of those young boys starting and playing well
about 1 year ago
LG
The Wanker whom over watered that pitch deserves shooting. I know the A League like it but there's a difference between watering & WATERING.

They do it every week. It's insane.  Very stupid
about 1 year ago
We have scored 2 goals in our last 5 games. AFC scored 13...
about 1 year ago
Yawn.
LT01
Chiefy post game with the tv panel:
- Gutted the way we conceded that goal, it was a mistake that shouldn't happen
- We had opportunities but we didn't capitalise
- Marco 2 weeks away from starting
- Result makes it a lot harder, like a mini grand final
- We're going through a rough phase, more confidence is the problem rather than ability
- Disappointed where we are as the team can show a lot more, but a year from now we might have more of those young boys starting and playing well
 
about 1 year ago
That was a tough watch - so many errors and poor performances and lack of cohesion. It was like watching a pre-season game. 
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And that all but wraps up our 24/25 campaign. At this point of the campaign it'd be nice to say that it's been a good run...

But no it hasn't. It's been absolute f u c k i n g  dog-s h i t.

Chiefy Out!
about 1 year ago
Nothing is quite working out at the moment, is it? Individual moments of hope but no cohesion whatsoever. Is it all down to confidence or have they lost faith in the system? I wouldn’t have started walker or Sheridan, firm believer that we should start with our strongest and they ain’t it (yet). 
about 1 year ago
Piper,Rojas and LBS tried to shake it up a bit.
That's all I want to say
about 1 year ago
They are a way better side than us currently second on the table and I didn’t expect us to take any points. But as Ifill said, <0k, sometimes the quality isn’t there but you can’t criticize the effort today>
Which I kind of agree with. We are not a very good side but if the supporters can see them making an effort then it helps. 
There was a spell in the second half when the subs were on and we looked quite threatening. Loved Pipers commitment. B/S brings excitement and Rojas small cameo showed what we have been missing all season. 
about 1 year ago
I cannot make my mind up about Retre. Whether he is "The Invisible Man" or "Suitcase". 

Maybe "Suitcase" because the rest of the team has to carry him
about 1 year ago
Zero shots on target 🎯?  It just can’t be.
about 1 year ago
Retre does have a unique ability to make my blood boil like nobody else.
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I can live with a bad season (would prefer it to be a good season obviously).
However, I am not sure I can survive a bad season being exactly the first season we have Kosta and Rojas on the park upfront. These two guys deserve better. We deserve better.  Would not be surprised if they both quit at the end of the season.
And can we have David Ball back?

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

about 1 year ago
I know you can have too many exciting players on the park at once but seriously: we need to have Ishige, Rojas, Geraldes, Brooke-Smith and Piper on the park as much as their fitness will allow.
about 1 year ago
If we think things are bad now, wait until we lose Wootton, Kosta and Marco at season's end. If Chiefy is to stay then those players would be stupid to sign a new contract with us. They're all in the twilight of their careers and it'd be a crying shame for them to spend their last years under Chiefy. 
about 1 year ago
whatever
I cannot make my mind up about Retre. Whether he is "The Invisible Man" or "Suitcase". 

Maybe "Suitcase" because the rest of the team has to carry him
First game after Rufer was out and Retre was the main man in the position, he couldn't dictate or control a game, irrespective of technical ability. But I thought he grew into that role a bit and exerting a bit more on the game, but since Rufer has been back he's sort of just happy to take a back seat.
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Only saw the first half. But it is a team visibly low on confidence, and not alot of structure or that word cohesion. 

Some of it is yes on Chiefy, but you have Rojas, Rufer & Payne who haven't played so much football lately. Geraldes new to the Nix and league. They could all yet gel nicely be the season finishes. A win could do wonders. I think both Kosta & Marco would prefer to stay. Chiefy & Rojas have the Latino brotherhood thing going on, and Barba career was looking sunk until last season.

But if the team ain't playing better by their final game, I'd join the chorus saying no new Chiefy contract. However if there is visible improvement, give him another season. Lose to Western next week, and then for the last 7 games, the focus should be getting ready for 2025/26. Tactics, who should be playing etc etc. It all becomes about preparing for next season

I mean does Chiefy still see a future for Nagasawa at the club? Rode the pine today.
about 1 year ago
Bullion
whatever
I cannot make my mind up about Retre. Whether he is "The Invisible Man" or "Suitcase". 

Maybe "Suitcase" because the rest of the team has to carry him
First game after Rufer was out and Retre was the main man in the position, he couldn't dictate or control a game, irrespective of technical ability. But I thought he grew into that role a bit and exerting a bit more on the game, but since Rufer has been back he's sort of just happy to take a back seat.
Retre is interesting, obviously good enough to win a few trophies, but hasn't made anything go his way in a Nix shirt. Looks better going forward, but really offers nothing for a team that is on the back foot (intentionally or otherwise). Similar to Nagasawa really, but at least Nagasawa has linked really well with Ishige on a few occasions. Don't really understand his omission but I don't really understand almost anything that Chiefy is trying to do right now.
Bullion
whatever
I cannot make my mind up about Retre. Whether he is "The Invisible Man" or "Suitcase". 

Maybe "Suitcase" because the rest of the team has to carry him
First game after Rufer was out and Retre was the main man in the position, he couldn't dictate or control a game, irrespective of technical ability. But I thought he grew into that role a bit and exerting a bit more on the game, but since Rufer has been back he's sort of just happy to take a back seat.
 
about 1 year ago
It's tough.  I enjoyed most of that game and we had lots of awesomeness to watch.  Just didn't finish chances.  The one near the end where we were tearing up the middle and opted to pass to the wing and just gave up the ball was frustrating to watch though.

But I feel like I'm more down on this season than some of the actual really shark seasons I have sat through.

I think it's the high of last season has meant this below average season feels way worse than it is.

Like it's shark, bit we have been much worse.
about 1 year ago
Bananas
It's tough.  I enjoyed most of that game and we had lots of awesomeness to watch.  Just didn't finish chances.  The one near the end where we were tearing up the middle and opted to pass to the wing and just gave up the ball was frustrating to watch though.

But I feel like I'm more down on this season than some of the actual really shark seasons I have sat through.

I think it's the high of last season has meant this below average season feels way worse than it is.

Like it's shark, bit we have been much worse.
 

I’m not trying to be a dick, but how could you possibly enjoy watching that game? We are dire.


about 1 year ago
Bananas
It's tough.  I enjoyed most of that game and we had lots of awesomeness to watch.  Just didn't finish chances.  The one near the end where we were tearing up the middle and opted to pass to the wing and just gave up the ball was frustrating to watch though.

But I feel like I'm more down on this season than some of the actual really shark seasons I have sat through.

I think it's the high of last season has meant this below average season feels way worse than it is.

Like it's shark, bit we have been much worse.
We are getting about a point per game across the season which is in line with our worst seasons ever bar Kalezic year. We are also 11th which would be a record low finish. We also have had the worst attacking season in our history to date (18 goals in 19 games). 

It's bad.
about 1 year ago
Retre WTF?
Italiano WTF?
The final pass WTF?
about 1 year ago
At least when auckland win the double we will win the spoon 💀
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No point talking about young players, fitness, confidence, etc.

The coach needs to go, it's as simple as that. Were there relegation in this league he would've been gone weeks ago. 

That's all there is to it: A new coach with fresh ideas, and a sort out of the squad at the end of the season. ASAP
about 1 year ago
Chico was class, his passes and ball control looked like from another Dimension. He is not staying.
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LT01
Bananas
It's tough.  I enjoyed most of that game and we had lots of awesomeness to watch.  Just didn't finish chances.  The one near the end where we were tearing up the middle and opted to pass to the wing and just gave up the ball was frustrating to watch though.

But I feel like I'm more down on this season than some of the actual really shark seasons I have sat through.

I think it's the high of last season has meant this below average season feels way worse than it is.

Like it's shark, bit we have been much worse.
We are getting about a point per game across the season which is in line with our worst seasons ever bar Kalezic year. We are also 11th which would be a record low finish. We also have had the worst attacking season in our history to date (18 goals in 19 games). 

It's bad.

11th being a record low finish is an interesting one. Wasn't aware of that stat.

I think it's the lack of thrashings (6-1 loss to AFC aside) that makes it feel not as bad as other seasons.

The current GD is -9. There are 6 other seasons with a worst or equal GD (to date).

07/08 (-12)
08/09 (-9)
12/13 (-18)
15/16 (-20)
17/18 (-24)  yipe Kalezic
21/22 (-15)  lots of injuries based in Aussie, and still finished 6th

Plus at least now we are watching lots of promising Academy players. Not Oz journeymen like Adam Parkhouse as Jazzy posted.

Of course with 8 games to go that GD will change. Again there needs to be visible performance for Chiefy to get another season. I'm tragically optimistic there will be.
about 1 year ago
Retre 50% pass accuracy. This is just sad.
about 1 year ago
Chiefy is delusional. "We gave them the goal, they didn't have a clear chance in the first half". What about Tilio's sitter of a header? And they had another great chance about 30-60 seconds after that one. 
about 1 year ago
imanixsupporter
Chiefy is delusional. "We gave them the goal, they didn't have a clear chance in the first half". What about Tilio's sitter of a header? And they had another great chance about 30-60 seconds after that one. 

Every loss its "ah but if the specific circumstances for their goal didn't happen we wouldn't have conceded"
about 1 year ago
LT01
imanixsupporter
Chiefy is delusional. "We gave them the goal, they didn't have a clear chance in the first half". What about Tilio's sitter of a header? And they had another great chance about 30-60 seconds after that one. 

Every loss its "ah but if the specific circumstances for their goal didn't happen we wouldn't have conceded"
We would’ve won if we didn’t lose
about 1 year ago
Chiefy said in the presser that the plan is to play Ishige, Geraldes and Rojas behind Kosta, presumably a 4-2-3-1, once all are fit. 

Hell, that'd be fun. But the season is already finished. Best we can hope for is to see them tearing it up together once or twice, and for us to wonder "what might have been". You couldn't even console yourself with the thought "we'll be a force next season" because 3 of those 4 are not contracted for next season. We will do well to even have two of those 4 by the start of next season. And even if by some miracle we kept all 4, one of them is already 35, and another is an injury-prone 33 year old.

What is there to hope for? Kids getting experience so they can leave to places where they might conceivably win things? Because they won't win anything here. 
about 1 year ago
"Chiefy said in the presser that the plan is to play Ishige, Geraldes and Rojas behind Kosta, presumably a 4-2-3-1, once all are fit."

And it would have been the same but with Nagasawa instead of Chico with our original squad.  Even yesterday we haven't been able to get that sort of combination on the field together. Nor all season. And the bits of that we do get together off and on haven't had the time to gell and understand each other as they have come and gone with injury and illness. And tried to work in with the kids around them.

Retre's back pass for the City goal is symptomatic of this team. Trying stuff but absolutely no anticipation from the players around him. So Retre looks a twit and we are always looking for runs that don't come or not at the right time. Or look flat footed because we are not anticipating what the players around us are doing or want from us.

Inconsistent playing sides due to injury and illness. And always missing key playmakers. They've never developed the chemistry and confidence that might have been.

Kosta
Nagasawa/Chico Rojas Ishige
Retre Rufer
Sutton Wooton Hughes Payne

They barely know each other. We've done a bit better with the back four but even there Sutton or Payne has often been out, or partially match fit.

Could have been a good season, but you'd aIways be concerned that our front four would get physically bullied.  

Gee it would be good if we could get that side starting together for the rest of the season and get some sense of what they might have done.