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WPM R26 @ Macarthur FC | Fri 24th Apr | 9:35pm | Sky Sport 3

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about 20 hours ago
Glad to didn’t bother with staying up for it, but didn’t expect such a horrific scoreline. Sounds like one of the few positives is that the season is over. It’s going to be one of the most interesting off seasons in a long while, given the uncertainty around the skipper. The club needs to do a lot of soul searching during this time, to win back the fans it may have already lost on the means side. A lot to replace and change. 

Still, there is so much positivity around the women’s side, I hope they get rewarded for it. 
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LG
about 20 hours ago
I am off to bed!!!!!!!!
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LG
about 19 hours ago
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
Yes and it was a pen
never in a million sunday's was that a pen, arm in a natural position, not moving towards the ball, relative distance between players is small - if you're blowing the whistle for a pen, you should never ever ref a game EVER!!!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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coochieeMainland FCmartinbNelfoos
about 19 hours ago
Don’t worry- Wood’s back and scored! 



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about 18 hours ago
It’s odd. Would Greenie have started that team if it had been a live game? 

Giving Khartum a chance to make his case? 


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about 18 hours ago
martinb wrote:
Don’t worry- Wood’s back and scored! 

 

How does that help the Phoenix?

Three for me, and two for them.

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about 18 hours ago
Buffon II wrote:
 martinb wrote:
Don’t worry- Wood’s back and scored! 

 

How does that help the Phoenix?
Helps me! That was miserable yesterday. A greatest hits of our misery. Senior players not turning up, senior players missing from dodgy reffing, players failing to show needed quality, squad imbalances revealed, injuries leaving us asking what if, injuries causing players to be played out of position, a weak mentality, a team dependent on Rufer, soft goals, Payne’s mysterious lethargy, no left side, odd selections, Najarrine failing to play simple passes…even what I thought of as a positive with Piper rampaging, even throwing in some step overs accidentally from being in proximity to Brooke-Smith, but even from that not being to find strike partners or finish after a run…

Having to listen to the commentators tell us that was a good crowd.


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ProcrastinixingSouthernix
about 16 hours ago
Was Hughes wearing the Captains armband once Nagasawa was subbed off?
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about 15 hours ago
Procrastinixing wrote:
Was Hughes wearing the Captains armband once Nagasawa was subbed off?
I also wondered about LKH as a potential captain. But then he needs a position to play for that! He seemed to take on a fair amount of responsibility. But yeh left side CB of a 3, but not displacing Tuiloma or Hughes…

Unless we push Bill up into a DM and had Hughes and LKH as the back 2…or Bill goes right back and we try Payney as DM…a bit late to learn to spin like Rufer? But he’s got plenty of other up sides…none of that is happening tho…

I think as much as we missed Rufer, we also missed Nagasawa and Najarrine carrying the ball and linking play from the 10s. 

Eh…see you in 6 months and no Australia Cup…


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about 14 hours ago
martinb wrote:
 Procrastinixing wrote:
Was Hughes wearing the Captains armband once Nagasawa was subbed off?
I also wondered about LKH as a potential captain. But then he needs a position to play for that! He seemed to take on a fair amount of responsibility. But yeh left side CB of a 3, but not displacing Tuiloma or Hughes…

Unless we push Bill up into a DM and had Hughes and LKH as the back 2…or Bill goes right back and we try Payney as DM…a bit late to learn to spin like Rufer? But he’s got plenty of other up sides…none of that is happening tho…

I think as much as we missed Rufer, we also missed Nagasawa and Najarrine carrying the ball and linking play from the 10s. 

Eh…see you in 6 months and no Australia Cup…
LKH as Captain???? What have you seen to warrent that? He has zero voice, shys away from tackles and is constantly one of our worst players. 

If this happens we may as well accept mediocrity. 
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KiwiMancunian
about 13 hours ago
MannyMuscatsBrother wrote:
 martinb wrote:
 Procrastinixing wrote:
Was Hughes wearing the Captains armband once Nagasawa was subbed off?
I also wondered about LKH as a potential captain. But then he needs a position to play for that! He seemed to take on a fair amount of responsibility. But yeh left side CB of a 3, but not displacing Tuiloma or Hughes…

Unless we push Bill up into a DM and had Hughes and LKH as the back 2…or Bill goes right back and we try Payney as DM…a bit late to learn to spin like Rufer? But he’s got plenty of other up sides…none of that is happening tho…

I think as much as we missed Rufer, we also missed Nagasawa and Najarrine carrying the ball and linking play from the 10s. 

Eh…see you in 6 months and no Australia Cup…
LKH as Captain???? What have you seen to warrent that? He has zero voice, shys away from tackles and is constantly one of our worst players. 

If this happens we may as well accept mediocrity. 
He led New Zealand well at that age group World Cup. 

I felt when he came on he was standing a bit taller and leading, looking to make play, constantly scanning and a bit different to what we’ve seen. 

I don’t think I’ve seen him shy away from tackles, but that’s your opinion. 

And you’re right, he’s not our best player. At least at the moment. Bill, Payney, Hughes are all better at this moment. But your best player isn’t always your best captain.

It was just a gut feeling. 


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brWanderingSheep
about 12 hours ago
LKH is not good enough for the A League- let alone be in a conversation about being a capatin. 

He, like Sheridan, sort of feels like a robotic academy product with no X factor (pace, mongrel, whatever). 

The Nix need to wipe the slate of that cohort of academy products  (aside from
Hughes who really came good this year) and blood rhew next ones. 

Keeping LKH, FRC, MS is consigning the Nix to mediocrity and also, frankly, just  bad busness if their model is to develop and export. Nobody is buying those players so they need to be moved on. 
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MaWanderingSheep
about 11 hours ago
JasperNix wrote:
LKH is not good enough for the A League- let alone be in a conversation about being a capatin. 

He, like Sheridan, sort of feels like a robotic academy product with no X factor (pace, mongrel, whatever). 

The Nix need to wipe the slate of that cohort of academy products  (aside from
Hughes who really came good this year) and blood rhew next ones. 

Keeping LKH, FRC, MS is consigning the Nix to mediocrity and also, frankly, just  bad busness if their model is to develop and export. Nobody is buying those players so they need to be moved on. 
Certainly there’s enough evidence to support your view. 

I think Conchie is likely done. 

I do just wonder if there is a bit of a spark there with LKH. Perhaps he could add a little bulk to go with the rest, especially with wrestling around the penalty spot being popular.But certainly we used to not see academy graduates unless they’d forced their way forward. It’s hard to say those three names have pushed their case through sustained good form or performances. 


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ni
about 10 hours ago
Find many of the comments about LKH by some of you very interesting because having spoken to some senior players the last 3 seasons they ALL rate him. Thats a mixture of senior locals and Visa players, yet according to some of  the armchair coaches on here he should be discarded.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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brBulliontheprof
about 10 hours ago
I have watched him and his brother play since he played ftc football. He has never been good. His height has helped him immensly - I'd love to know what these attributes are they see. Just watch any time he goes 1v1, forever getting skinned but hey, lets stick with mediocre academy players cause that did well this year. 
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about 9 hours ago
MannyMuscatsBrother wrote:
I have watched him and his brother play since he played ftc football. He has never been good. His height has helped him immensly - I'd love to know what these attributes are they see. Just watch any time he goes 1v1, forever getting skinned but hey, lets stick with mediocre academy players cause that did well this year. 
Your wrong. He was very good at the u20 WC as captain.

Has improved in the air markedly, wins a lot now tackles and is calm on the ball. He will be a very good CB one day.

He has potential, others, not so much.
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about 8 hours ago · edited about 8 hours ago · History
JasperNix wrote:
LKH is not good enough for the A League- let alone be in a conversation about being a capatin. 

He, like Sheridan, sort of feels like a robotic academy product with no X factor (pace, mongrel, whatever). 

The Nix need to wipe the slate of that cohort of academy products  (aside from
Hughes who really came good this year) and blood rhew next ones. 

Keeping LKH, FRC, MS is consigning the Nix to mediocrity and also, frankly, just  bad busness if their model is to develop and export. Nobody is buying those players so they need to be moved on. 
Whilst an interesting take on it, who exactly are you bringing through to blood and give experience at A-League level?

The ones that were perhaps on the periphery - Candy, Watson, Flowerdew, Makowem, Gillion and a few others have all gone on to other endeavours, and the next exciting one in Jack Perniskie is apparently off to the UK when he turns 18. 

The next emerging crop coming through have been 'refreshed' in the off season and are only 17-19 with a majority of them having barely even played Central League football, or at the very least are in their infancy at that level. Ben Trenberth - who I think looks a talent based on NZ U17 stuff and his couple of CL appearances is only 15/16...

This is not a dig either. I'm just genuinely interested to see who people think are coming through who would make a difference in the first team setting. Keeping in mind of course guys like Loke, Walker, Cassidy, McCarron, GSR and Smith have been in and around the first team recently and are on scholarships or full deals as it is.
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coochiee
about 8 hours ago
The question is, why does it have to be academy players if the current crop are a few years off and not ready then? Auckland gambled and took many from the national league and look how they went for them. In fact they took two players, Randell and Prins, from right under our noses due to this high horse attitude from the club of thinking our academy players are instantly better? 

I get it's the clubs strategy but if this season continues on next year we are going to be lucky to get 2k at games. For once, can we try and not strive for mediocrity, after all we are the ONLY team in the league without any silverware? 
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LGWanderingSheep
about 8 hours ago · edited about 8 hours ago · History
Prins has gone to the Pro League - A few steps below A-League level - and been decidedly average. How exactly would that help us?

What about the others that have arrived in Auckland from the domestic scene? McKenlay, Coulibaly, Bidois, Middleton, Gillion? They'd be about the same level as that of Roa Conchie in terms of what they've delivered (ie not much).
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coochieeNelfoosWanderingSheep
about 8 hours ago
YoungHeartHM wrote:
Prins has gone to the Pro League - A few steps below A-League level - and been decidedly average. How exactly would that help us?

What about the others that have arrived in Auckland from the domestic scene? McKenlay, Coulibaly, Bidois, Middleton, Gillion? They'd be about the same level as that of Roa Conchie in terms of what they've delivered (ie not much).
Prins is a very good player. Yes poor in the o league (so have 99% of that team) but that Auckland team sets up so defensivly so does not help. Ifill rates him as one of the best in the country but yeah... im sure he wont help us? I certainly do not rate Sloane who's postion he would be fighting for. 

Look all and all, I am just sick of the club not looking at the national league anymore. It sort of disrespcts the competiton and clearly has not helped us. We are going to agree to disagree here - all I can hope for is a marked improvement in squad quality next year.
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about 6 hours ago · edited about 6 hours ago · History
We've literally got a starting striker we pulled out of the National League.

The players have to actually be good enough, I really don't see that many banging the door down. Telling the club to sign players that the coach doesnt rate in order to "respect the competition" is a bonkers suggestion.

If Prins has been bad at OPL level how can you expect him to be A-League level? At least GSR is 2 years younger. They're also very different players and Gabi will naturally take longer to reach the physical level of pro football.

You can't take Ifill's player rankings seriously, he always overrated the players hes been involved with, just look at his joke of a World Cup XI.

All that said, Greenie is very familiar with the National League and if he gets the gig im sure he will know who can and can't contribute to his team.

Valley FC til I die?

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coochieeYoungHeartHM
about 3 hours ago
I think the unfortunate thing, perhaps related to the confusion of styles and requirements from Chief, is that we haven’t had either from the academy or from the National League a bang the door down type talent. 

On the other hand, when we get those talents like Marco they’re often off in less than a season. 

But yeh we used to get players standing head and shoulders clear of the league like Roy or Siggie. 

Outside maybe, Luke Brooke Smith, say and Randall, there hasn’t been any talent banging on the door to get out of the national league. And possibly too, that’s because of the pathways that exist have those guys overseas already? 

But it is hard to see anyone who has been Siggie dominant in the local teams.


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