Wellington Phoenix Men

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The players could have them as boots.....
Scottishbhoy2007-12-17 13:46:06

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The players could have them as boots.....


I'd fly up to every game if they did!
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The players could have them as boots.....


Now I know what to ask Santa for

My lacrosse cleats are somewhat due to be replaced with football boots...
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5 years.
Dammit.

I really hate all the teams being forced to use the same sh*tty Reebok template.
Hopefully adidas will realise that Reebok is perceived as a lesser brand than adidas in Australasia and they make the switch next year.

Then we'll definitely be able to have stripes.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We could have stripes with Reebok too, but they choose to force everyone sans Melbourne to use their template...
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robbwatson wrote:
We could have stripes with Reebok too, but they choose to force everyone sans Melbourne to use their template...
 
Correct. Going to adidas would no doubt help jack up the price of a replica shirt as well 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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This whole issue about the team playing strip is in my view very important (see below).  Editor, in light of this can we change the forum name from "Yellow" to something like "Phoenix Playing Strip" to highlight the importance of the topic and get more feedback on it, and also hopefully therefore be more likely to attract Tony P's attention (on this, see below)? (No offence in regard to the topic / issue name you chose SurgeQld - thanks for bringing up the forum.)

The Phoenix playing strip (sadly, not the current one) has great potential for branding and marketing the club, both in New Zealand and Australia (and, hopefully, one day, in Asia), but especially in Wellington where the club is based and needs to source the majority of the 'bums on seats'.
 
In my view, this marketing / branding potential is currently very limited with a home strip that is basically all black and an away strip that is basically all white.  There are a number of points that can be made.
 
First, these playing strip designs lack any imagination and are too boring (no disrespect to those whose tastes on this differ).  They have been done so often in NZ sport that they no longer have any effect or leave anything to the imagination.  They are not a mark of difference. Even the Football Kingz and NZ Knights played in all black strips.  I'm sure the club can be more imaginative and independent in building up its own image, style and culture.
 
Second, the Wellington colours are black and yellow (not predominantly black).  Importantly, it's the colours the fans in Wellington and New Zealand identify and associate with as being "Wellington".
 
Third, the irony, and a lesson in itself, is that the vast majority of Phoenix's souvenirs and promotional material is black and yellow (witness, for example, the scarf and black and yellow tracksuit top, which, in my view, look stunning).  Additionally, the YF fan club support is strongly based around the black and yellow theme.  Even some chants (in Aisle 30) incorporate the colours (Chant leader yells: "I say BLACK, you say Yellow ... BLACK". Crowd yells (in tune):"YELLOW". Chant leader yells: "BLACK".  Crowd yells: "YELLOW".  Chant leader yells (continuing the same tune): "I say YELLOW, you say black ... YELLOW.  Crowd yells back: BLACK etc.  In fact, disappointingly, the only thing that isn't (very) yellow and black is the team.
 
Fourth, when the club was first formed, there were some marvellous and imaginative designs promoted by some of the YF lads (Editor, perhaps we can dig out the relevant topic and put it back on the main page of this forum). To add my vote, my personal favourite for home strip would be black and yellow striped-shirt, black shorts (or, as another very good and perhaps better option, white shorts), and black socks with a yellow trim at the top (or, black and yellow hooped socks).  From memory, there were two or three black and yellow striped-shirts designed by YF lads that fitted the bill perfectly.
 
Fifth, having a common playing strip design for all the clubs is absolutely boring.  What a marketing and branding disaster by those who decided this and a lost opportunity!  Why should, as I understand it from this forum, Reebok insist on using a template for all playing strips - it doesn't seem logical?  After all, the strips would still carry the Reebok brand / logo.  If, for example, England's Newcastle United came to Reebok for a playing strip deal, Reebok wouldn't insist on Newcastle getting rid of its black and white stripes.  Instead, they would welcome Newcastle with open arms and ask "how can we please you?".
 
Sixth, why is it that the club has to play in its away colours when not playing in Wellington?  This is a ridiculous requirement, unless there is a clash of colours, which I believe only happens when we play the CCM.  Once again, this is a lost marketing and branding opportunity for the club.
 
Would it be possible for some of the senior members of the forum to correspond with Tony P to signal the fan's concerns about the club's playing strip?  It should be a concern to Tony P when some members are even contemplating introducing a black and yellow-striped shirt for the fans to wear, which I would buy ahead of the Phoenix shirt (in fact, it's why I prefer my Ricki retro shirt).
 
It would be great to hear from Tony P about whether the club is looking to rebrand itself for next season, or what its views on this topic are.  Perhaps Tony P could also clarify what the requirements of the FFA and Reebok are and whether, and to what extent, the club will be mounting any challenge to these requirements.
 
 
 
 
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I agree with your sentiment, however people vote with their feet and I was in the Phoenix shop on Saturday and they've pretty much sold out of all replica shirts, so I'm not sure it's affecting the buying patterns of the majority of the fans.

  

Having said that, the purest in me finds it hard to accept that the shirt designs are mandated by the governing body (although I do actually like the shirt).  I also agree that more yellow is needed and think stripes are the way forward!

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We def. need more yellow in our playing kit. Even if we keep the current tops and just bring in yellow shorts and socks if necessary.
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robbwatson wrote:
We def. need more yellow in our playing kit. Even if we keep the current tops and just bring in yellow shorts and socks if necessary.
 
That would look obscene!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Not a big fan of yellow shorts. Check out last season's Partick Thistle away strip to see how bad they can look:

 
Jag2007-12-18 13:51:48

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The clubs are Reebok's gimps

Founder

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I agree - we do need more yellow in the home strip. No Yellow shorts though

Stripes seem to be the generally accepted way to go! Perhaps in a season or two???

Queenslander 3x a year.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
why not horizontal strips of yellow and black like celtic?

pale yellow away shirt so its rather close to white?
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mccon11 wrote:
why not horizontal strips of yellow and black like celtic?


I think you'll find that's called hoops.
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yes, im familiar with that name
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Wouldn't be a bad look though.
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Feverish wrote:
The clubs are Reebok's gimps


Reebok, Fox and the FFA's.

I can't see any way FOX who pretty much pay for the league and the FFA are going to allow the confusion of two yellow teams in an eight team league.  This isn't a matter of hundred year old clubs and history, it's a plastic league made in the last three years.

If Joe Punter can't tell which team he is watching on TV, or quickly identifying with a colour and brand they might switch off.

Therefore - The Mariners had Yellow first, so they stay Yellow, the away team always wear white.  Of course if you get 50,000 people in the gates they'll bend the rules, but I don't like our chances.

Be nice to think it will change, but evidence suggests it is unlikely for the foreseeable future.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:
Feverish wrote:
The clubs are Reebok's gimps


Reebok, Fox and the FFA's.

I can't see any way FOX who pretty much pay for the league and the FFA are going to allow the confusion of two yellow teams in an eight team league.  This isn't a matter of hundred year old clubs and history, it's a plastic league made in the last three years.

If Joe Punter can't tell which team he is watching on TV, or quickly identifying with a colour and brand they might switch off.

Therefore - The Mariners had Yellow first, so they stay Yellow, the away team always wear white.  Of course if you get 50,000 people in the gates they'll bend the rules, but I don't like our chances.

Be nice to think it will change, but evidence suggests it is unlikely for the foreseeable future.


Sobering as always.
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I don't see the need to change. Those of us with a replica shirt don't want to have to buy a new one every year either. I don't mind the idea of the away side wearing white each time. I've grown to like the idea in fact, it makes sense.
 
Can't say I'm excited about hoops. The Wellington Bumble Bees.......
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Hard News wrote:
Feverish wrote:
The clubs are Reebok's gimps


Reebok, Fox and the FFA's.

I can't see any way FOX who pretty much pay for the league and the FFA are going to allow the confusion of two yellow teams in an eight team league.  This isn't a matter of hundred year old clubs and history, it's a plastic league made in the last three years.

If Joe Punter can't tell which team he is watching on TV, or quickly identifying with a colour and brand they might switch off.

Therefore - The Mariners had Yellow first, so they stay Yellow, the away team always wear white.  Of course if you get 50,000 people in the gates they'll bend the rules, but I don't like our chances.

Be nice to think it will change, but evidence suggests it is unlikely for the foreseeable future.
 
Hard News,  are you able to get the topic name changed per my earlier posting today so that more people are aware of the issue and provide their comments / views?  Also, as I suggested in the earlier email, it's probably an important enough issue for the club and fans and therefore worthwhile trying to get a response from Tony P. I'm sure you and some of the other more established forum members / YF fans could have some influence on this.
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pao1908 wrote:
I don't see the need to change. Those of us with a replica shirt don't want to have to buy a new one every year either. I don't mind the idea of the away side wearing white each time. I've grown to like the idea in fact, it makes sense.
 
Can't say I'm excited about hoops. The Wellington Bumble Bees.......
 
Have to agree. Hoops would be awful. I'm not that fussed about stripes either - not with black and yellow. It would mean I couldn't wear my Nix shirt to work on Fridays. The current home shirt is subtle enough to count as smart casual. 
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TBH lads it was covered in a large way pre-season and hands were tied.  I'm sure Tony pops in here, but he'll probably just tell us what we all know... the FFA make the rules.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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SiNZ wrote:
pao1908 wrote:
I don't see the need to change. Those of us with a replica shirt don't want to have to buy a new one every year either. I don't mind the idea of the away side wearing white each time. I've grown to like the idea in fact, it makes sense.
 
Can't say I'm excited about hoops. The Wellington Bumble Bees.......
 
Have to agree. Hoops would be awful. I'm not that fussed about stripes either - not with black and yellow. It would mean I couldn't wear my Nix shirt to work on Fridays. The current home shirt is subtle enough to count as smart casual. 


may be it's that smart casual image that has Elrich confused about the amount of energy a footballer should expend on the field


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Ha! Then he could run round 1,000,000 miles an hour like a bumble bee you mean....??
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
something like that

I suppose i was just intrigued by the idea of a footballer kitted out to be 'smart casual'
(bring on the tiger stripes!!!)
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Smart on the pitch is good....casual isn't.....!!!!!!!!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
How about black and yellow checks? Anyone?

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You're just jealous...

Besides, Boavista wear black and white checks, and didn't Central United adopt Croatian shirts as their kit in the 90s for a while?
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Hard News wrote:

The Mariners had Yellow first, so they stay Yellow, the away team always wear white.  Of course if you get 50,000 people in the gates they'll bend the rules, but I don't like our chances.

Be nice to think it will change, but evidence suggests it is unlikely for the foreseeable future.



...or silver/grey...howcome Melbourne gets special treatment for all their gear (is this a tard=special thing?)

i think we should move to a silver/grey away shirt too...more marketing potential with Sony (all their gear is silver so they could sell it off as "Phoenix Edition" and give the club a cut


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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
black shirts/yellow sleeves? or visa versa??
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
you mean like the pre-season top?

I much prefer the one they're wearing. And black/yellow stripes would look horrible.
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Yellow & white stripes?? Cooler to wear in the summer.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
and they blend together too well...

Unless you pick a darker yellow. And yellow and white is not Wellington.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think the Phoenix should get full body lycra black and yellow strip suits with hoods to reduce wind resistance
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Maggot wrote:
I think the Phoenix should get full body lycra black and yellow strip suits with hoods to reduce wind resistance


Or someone could teach Elrich how to run...
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Remember, smart on the pitch is good, casual ain't so good.......
 
I thought the pre-season strip had a sort of retro look to it. Not sure I liked it though. I think it's the socks that aren't happening actually, black socks look like rugby. How about the current shirt, with white shorts and either white or yellow socks...?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
[QUOTE=pao1908]... black socks look like rugby. QUOTE]
 
Really? Black socks are as common in football in England as other colours. I nearly always wear black socks - though being in goal I don't have to adhere to the some as the rest of the team.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
How about we do as the Cameroonians do and go with some sweet basketball singlets!
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